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Title: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 15, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
Hi Gents and Ladies,  I'm not sure this idea will get any interest, but I thought I would put it forth.

My idea, for those who really don't want to do a build thread, but still wish to show what they have created.  I figure this also might help someone who really doesn't wish to start a whole new thread just to show a few photos.  It would also help out the administrators of HPA, I would think.  You could probably do one of these "Show Your Newest Creation" threads for each of the major areas, Indoor, Outdoor, RC and CL(U-Control). 

Anyway, what you ya tink? 

BTW, I am in the process of building a Bob Peck Bostonian Pup that I really didn't wish to do a build thread on.  I will be posting a pic of the critter once I have it done.

Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 15, 2012, 12:46:36 PM
Sounds like a good idea Caley. I have a few bits and pieces about that are not worth a thread of their own.

If I may kick off with my Gecko design. It's a sport model about peanut size but not based on any full size aircraft. It was drawn a few years back and I do a bit on it now and then. It's overbuilt and overweight but I do plan to finish it at some point...


Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 15, 2012, 01:04:33 PM
Jon, Great!  I really don't think that is overbuilt, considering it has a very roundish fuselage that needs lots of stringers.  I guess you could go the route of some of the Japanese mdelers that I think, build with 1/32 or so wood to cut the weight.  Anyway, I really think it is a very nice design, and hope you'll place the plan in the Plans Gallery.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on February 15, 2012, 01:43:22 PM
Best I dig a camara out Ive been a busy boy  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on February 15, 2012, 02:06:42 PM
I like your idea Caley.
With that in mind Ill contribute a bones shot
of the new FW-190 shortly


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 15, 2012, 02:06:52 PM
...and hope you'll place the plan in the Plans Gallery....

Hmm, thanks Caley, but I don't think it's quite up to that. Maybe if I redraw a few bits... someday!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on February 15, 2012, 06:09:35 PM
Here is an assembled bones shot of the shortly to be released
short kit of the FW 190F. At  this stage the laser cuts are verified
and all corrections made to the blue prints and the laser cut files.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 15, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Jon, You're too hard on yourself.  That is one nice airplane.

Mike, Certainly looks nice.  Do you sell the short kits, or are they handled by established retailers?  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on February 15, 2012, 07:53:40 PM
Mike,
   Beautiful Focke-Wulf and I'm sure its going to be a big hit. 

Well a while back I introduced my Albatros D3 in another thread. I'm pleased to say that since its release date a month ago, 54 have flown out of here and I have 2 still pending. Not a bad start.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cavelamb on February 16, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
Interesting...

One if the mist important questions for one who draws plans for others to build from is - did you like it?

There is so little feedback - even in this forum - that at times one wonders if anybody actually ever uses these drawings.

I've been waiting to see 400 total downloads to try to start a quarter scale Lazy Bee thread (peanut scale).
We are not quite there yet (I posted the mark II plans just over a week ago), but you sucked me in with this one!

Richard Lamb

PS the Focke Wulf is absolutely gorgeous...
I only wish I could build then that well.









Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rewinged on February 16, 2012, 12:20:45 AM
Great bones and planes.  My newest creation is in the P30 thread. 

I wish the pics of these beautiful creations were bigger.  Regardless, I like seeing them...keep em coming!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DerekMc on February 16, 2012, 12:33:11 AM
Bill, click on the pictures. They get plenty big! Well at least some of them do!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on February 16, 2012, 07:46:24 AM
Hi Caley
This is a good idea, I started a thread "What have You built Lately" last May and got some great replies but being just a thread in General Discussion if there are no replies after a week or so it disappears. I think it should ,as you say have its own section or heading so when browsing it may inspire members to contribute.
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on February 16, 2012, 09:17:31 AM
As proist Caley
1st pic is a 96 inch span Eglider 540 watt brushless motor power 3 chanel ruder, elevator and wing spoilers The glider was drawn up around a brushed 550 motor and gearbox that had a bit of electricery too revearse the motor for short feild landing I could'nt find a 550 so in with the brushless and mod the wing for pop up spoilers.
2nd pic is an Avro Lancaster 40 inch span designed by my club mate and was drawn up in 1993 it is balsa and blue foam and will have vac formed spinners turrets and glazing power is via 4 KP01s and good old Sanyo nicads
3rd pic is the tail for well lets see if anyone can guess (its not a Spitfire but think war bird)
4th pic is a drill I spent a couple of afternoons modding into a winder with a counter (cos some b*gger always stops to talk when Im half way through winding ;D)
Cheers for now Bear.  ;)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 16, 2012, 09:28:36 AM
Gents, Some very kewl models.

BEAR, Protists are a diverse group of eukaryotic microorganisms?  At least that is what I found out what Proist is.    A diverse group of model airplanes if I translate things correctly.  Caley



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on February 16, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
Gents, Some very kewl models.

BEAR, Protists are a diverse group of eukaryotic microorganisms?  At least that is what I found out what Proist is.    A diverse group of model airplanes if I translate things correctly.  Caley


OPPS spelling mistake lol should be "As promised" lol


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 16, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
Love the big glider Bear!  8)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on February 17, 2012, 05:38:38 AM
That's a great idea Caley.
Here's the last/newest , I call it the 'Brown Russian'.
Mooman picked it out, and I sketched it up as a peanut. Yak52 has 'Dimer' on the board, which no doubt will be awesome (but I think he's standing knee-deep in aligators).
It's a little bit of a porker at 11.2 grams w/o rubber, but has glided well.
It is posted it in the plan gallery.
I'm not usually a warbird type builder. Hopefully, someone else out there can do better.

tross


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 17, 2012, 05:58:48 AM
It's come out really well Tony!

...(but I think he's standing knee-deep in aligators).

I have nooo idea what that means ... but it sounds like me! My version has slipped down the priority list I'm afraid. I kind of stepped up because Jackson was so keen but you've done a really lovely job of it  8) Has he done a build thread on his yet?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 17, 2012, 09:10:02 AM
Tony, Very nice. Should fly nicely.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on February 23, 2012, 08:48:43 AM
Newest on my board (between three other models) is a modified FROG "HERON".  Had to take a break from the peanut farm and regroup with something larger.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 23, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
Bowers Fly Baby, a clunker at 9.4g, but I think it's kinda cute


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 23, 2012, 08:19:07 PM
Gentlemen,  Thanks for all the great posts.  Those leetle aeroplanes sure are nice looking.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 23, 2012, 08:22:54 PM
I finally got most of my Bob Peck Bostonian Pup done.  Just a bit more fiddlin' and it will be ready to crash test.   ;D  Instead of gluing the stab/fin assembly to the fuse, I just added a small hook at the rear of the fuse so I could use a ribbit band to hold things down.  The rear motor peg is the front hold down point.  If I had my druthers, I would've built the stab like most are done, instead of layered like on the plan, but I followed what Mr Peck designed.  May be a reason for the way he did things.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on February 23, 2012, 08:51:20 PM
Good lookin' planes, Wordguy and Caley. Looking forward to your finished Heron, Pete.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: olddog on February 23, 2012, 10:19:35 PM
If your knee deep in alligators, it's hard to remind yourself that your initial objective was to drain the swamp.  Thats part of an old saying about planning in advance, but let yourself get in too deep. Ron


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 24, 2012, 05:59:17 AM
Thanks Ron.

Lovely Bostonian Caley! I like the colours, what tissue did you use?

John, the Flybaby looks great - I have a soft spot for them. Is it a peanut?


Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Eduardo Yamin on February 24, 2012, 06:23:22 AM
Here´s my Four TOP PGI F1Gs for 2012 Argentina Nacionals (http://eduardoyamin.blogspot.com/2012/02/evolucao-preparativos-embalse-2012.html) that will begin next april 27.




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 24, 2012, 07:06:03 AM
Yes Jon, the Flybaby is a p-nut.  Been thinking a bit about building another one, this time in bipe configuration.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 24, 2012, 09:44:31 AM
Jon,  It is Easy Built tissue I had laying around.  The model is one of my usual porkers.  Weighs 21 grams with nose weight.   :(  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 24, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
That's not too bad  ;D Will be a lot of fun outdoors with enough rubber in it. Looks stable enough to handle it too... Make sure you give us a flight report  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ram on February 24, 2012, 10:17:17 AM
Here´s my Four TOP PGI F1Gs for 2012 Argentina Nacionals (http://eduardoyamin.blogspot.com/2012/02/evolucao-preparativos-embalse-2012.html) that will begin next april 27.


Eduardo,

Very nice Coupes.  Is the drooped tailboom a purposeful design feature?

Rey


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Saint Alfonzo on February 24, 2012, 01:29:06 PM
Very nice bostonian Caley.. And a classy choice of 'display stand ' too..:)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Eduardo Yamin on February 24, 2012, 05:08:19 PM
Here´s my Four TOP PGI F1Gs for 2012 Argentina Nacionals (http://eduardoyamin.blogspot.com/2012/02/evolucao-preparativos-embalse-2012.html) that will begin next april 27.


Eduardo,

Very nice Coupes.  Is the drooped tailboom a purposeful design feature?

Rey

This dropped tailboom is to lower the CG and to take the tailplane out of the downwash.
This is tipical PGI design originated by Jean Wantzenriether from france.

See more info in my blog:
http://www.eduardoyamin.blogspot.com/search/label/PGI

In english here:
http://freeflightquarterly.blogspot.com/2012/01/rubber-model-trimming-via-pgi-and-top.html

Regards
EY



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DerekMc on February 24, 2012, 06:08:30 PM
Here´s my Four TOP PGI F1Gs for 2012 Argentina Nacionals (http://eduardoyamin.blogspot.com/2012/02/evolucao-preparativos-embalse-2012.html) that will begin next april 27.




Awesome!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on February 26, 2012, 04:05:28 PM
After way too much time, I've finally gotten some pictures ready to post.

The Bellanca Skyrocket is about 3/4 size from Flyline plans - gives it about a 25" wingspan.  That allowed me to use 1/16" square balsa on the fuselage, and 1/32" thick ribs.  I've been working on the engine, which since it's exposed, needs to have a fair amount of detail.  I've got the cylinder heads done, just not photographed now.  The cylinders are alternating disks of 1/64" balsa.

The Piper Cub is from Shorty's Basement, and is the West Wings laser-cut kit.

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 26, 2012, 04:54:45 PM
Crash, think I built 3 "Pups."  Hung got one, a 'plane eating tree another, and I think the third finally disintegrated on the roof of a school in Aurora, Colorado.  Yours is much prettier than any of mine were.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 26, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
Justin, Very nice work.  I especially like the Cubby.  I'm kinda partial to Cubs.   :)

Wordguy,  Glad your Pups flew well.  I've never had much luck with little models, and this one is no different.  I've tried glide testing and it doesn't want to with any kind of adjustment.  I think I built something wrong.  I'll keep fiddlin with it in the hopes I find something I am missing.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dimeflyer on February 26, 2012, 10:36:58 PM
Caley Ann
Have you tried backing away from it a few steps and make sure you have every thing lined up wright
between the stab and wings and the rudder ?
If I have trouble most of the time I find out I missed the mark on lining up the stabilizer or rudder with
one or the other ,next is the set of the wing to the fuse and then balance !!
just a thought Mam !
George


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 26, 2012, 10:54:51 PM
George, I have something even better for checking flying surface alignment.  It is a magnetic building board that has a grid pattern of 1/4 inch squares.  Everything gets aligned according to the lines that create those squares.  I used to use graph paper until I got this board a few years ago.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on February 27, 2012, 08:42:19 AM
Justin,
Your Skyrocket looks fantastic!
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 27, 2012, 09:11:16 AM
Warhawk, the Bellanca is a thing of beauty.  Am I correct that the cowl is x-grained balsa?  A sweet solution IMHO; assume that it is hollowed-out?  How thin were you able to make the walls and still have sufficient strength?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on February 27, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Caley,

On the Cub; I was a bit disappointed as to the fit of some of the parts - they came in undersized by about 1/16" on the wingtip and tail parts, but the fuselage parts seemed to be correct.  I ended up making laminated flying surfaces and wingtips.  I've made some other modifications, but I sort of like the wing mounts and strut arrangements - the wings are removable.  Weights look OK so far, keeping just under .5g/sq. in.  I'll post a picture when I get it done, but it may be a while based on how long it took to post the first one.

Dave & Wordguy,

Jury's still out on whether the arrangement is going to be strong enough, but I believe it will be.  The forward part was made from balsa disks 1/8" thick, rounded and tapered on the Dremel tool, then cut out the centers.  They are about 1/8" thick after the final internal sanding.  Behind them is a 1/64" ply disk, and behind that I used a jig to center the ply to the frame front former which has the rounded top and flat sides and bottom, with rounded corners.  I sheeted the top with pre-curved 1/16" and sides and bottom with 1/8". 

The engine crankcase was the 4th attempt - I ended up making two disks with marks at each corner, mounted them on a jig, and glued in 1/16" stringers at the corners to make a hamster cage, then infilled between the stringers with balsa.  Then sanded using the balsa infills as a guide.  Previous attempts to glue slats together failed since I didn't have good forms to use during the glue-up.  The crankcase rests on the 1/64" ply former, but I ground out the ends to make about a 1/2" hole through the center.  The front fariing is also the noseblock, and has a plug to fit into the crankcase hole.  Intent is to keep the cylinders and pushrods behind the noseblock, and hopefully get most of the down/rightthrust drilled into the fairing so I don't have to shim it.  I covered the firewall yesterday, so I should be able to finish building the motor now.  I have the cylinder heads made and painted, so I can start locating the pushrods and get ready to glue all that stuff on; then I'll be ready to make and locate the intake and exhaust piping.  I'm planning to make that mostly from balsa; I believe about 3/32" round should be about right.  Now to see if my Dremel tool lathe will work on stuff that thin - I think it will as long as I don't make the pieces too long.  I'd like to get 3 or 4 pipes from each stick, but I don't know if I can get that much yet.  I'll also have to figure out how to make the bends.  Fortunately, it looks like only 1 bend per "tube" - only 18 of them!  My wife asked why I didn't just buy an engine - I said "where's the fun in that?"

Justin



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 27, 2012, 12:18:24 PM
Justin, I just blundered across a rather nice material for exhausts:  reeds, available as small as 1MMand up to nearly 1/4" in diameter from basket making folks for absurdly low prices.  Soak, bend around a suitably complex form, and allow to dry.  The intake manifolds on my Pfalz in the pnut section are fabricated this way, as are the manifolds on the Flybaby in this thread.  A positive JOY to work with as opposed to paper cylinders, etc.  Also available in oval cross-sections - yep, flexible "streamlined" struts!

Going to watch this build with a LOT of interest, as I think your cowl solution might address a lot of issues on future projects of my own (theft:  the surest form of flattery).

WRT engine crankcases, I shared your pain until (DUH!) I hit upon doing regular 3, 5, 7, 9, etc. polygons in CAD and using them as a template to cut a balsa crank-case.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on February 27, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
Wordguy,

Thanks for the reed idea.  I actually have a number of reed lengths; I'll see if I can get them to bend right. 

I don't have a problem getting the angles right on crankcase patterns; I have a problem getting them the right size and angles after cutting.   I seem to be able to sand in notches keeping a dot centered, but when it comes to cutting a perfect 40 deg angle, I can't get it right 9 times in a row!  I'd plead astigmatism, but that's supposed to be corrected with my glasses. . .

I've been thinking about the intake and exhaust connections, and right now, I believe that I may cut out some 1/62" disks for the flanges.  Not certain, but I may insert a small toothpick spike to connect the tubing onto.

Anyone have a source for that small vinyl tubing that was used on some model cars about 20 years ago?  I bought a couple of the plastic F1 racers and they had brake lines and spark plug wires made from vinyl tubing that was about 1/32" in diameter.

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on February 27, 2012, 02:17:43 PM
Vinyl Tubing:  Ck fly tying shops for a material that used to be called "Larvae Lace" (there were also competitive products).  Used to imitate segmented insect bodies. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on February 27, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
Moving along with  progress. Here is a rendition I have decided upon
for the FW 190 color scheme. Now the game here is to use colored tissue
only, however it turns out that most FW 190s had these weird, complex schems that
are an interprative challenge using colored tissue.
Here is my attempt to render a typically complex scheme. So far, from a distance,
it doesn't look bad.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 27, 2012, 06:41:52 PM
It looks blinkin' good Mike! Is that two layers where the green is?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 27, 2012, 06:54:01 PM
Mike, I agree with Jon, and am also curious how you did the different colours on the wings.  Since I can't paint worth a darn, layers of tissue seem to be an option.  I've had a dimescale Spit sitting nakie for several years, and sure would like to get it decent.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on February 27, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
Actually I put dom dark green over a dummy frame then
used some dk grey over it to see if it would show enough
green thru to give a grey/green look. Also the green esaki
 tissue used will fade quickly giving a lt green look over the 
dom lt grey. So yea it pays to try some tissue color
combos to get some useful perceived colors.

In your case I would use brown all over and overlay green.
Might work pretty good on a spit.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 27, 2012, 08:45:09 PM
Thanks Mike,  Definitely want to get that one done, as a friend was drooling over the bones.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on February 28, 2012, 10:56:48 AM
 8)  midway avenger which is a blow up of the guillows 500 avenger It flies nicely too.

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 29, 2012, 09:22:04 AM
Nice Avenger Jim.

I have joined Pete and Don in surfing the FROG New Wave!  ;D 8)
Here's my Raven nearly ready to cover. Weight is 10.6g at the moment but I have a bit more sanding to do on the flying surfaces.


Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 01, 2012, 04:55:50 AM
Froggie went a'courtin' and my tadpole has sprouted LEGS - nice LOOONG LEGS (after all, it's a HERON ;D)!  I could prolly fit a 6.75" air-mover on the schnoz (but I'll stick with a 6 incher).

All major construction is fini.  Just needs a front end and wheels.  I haven't quite decided how I' mount the wing - permanent or with magnets.  Some 18" models will fit into my "standard" box, but a removable wing will make transport a lot easier.

11.11 grams with the legs mounted


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on March 01, 2012, 06:11:18 PM
OK guys
Here are a cpl of shots of the almost completed FW-190.
It has been fun to stretch the envelope as to what can be done
using simple colored tissue. Leave it to the Germans to use most
of the colors in the spectrum.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on March 01, 2012, 06:17:28 PM
WOW.  That is marvelous!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 01, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
WOW.  That is marvelous!

I agree!
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on March 01, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
I am a tissue printing nut, but I really love to see a guy do it the old fashioned way! Nice job Mike!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 01, 2012, 06:27:41 PM
Nice work Mike.  Oh yea, I've got a pilot ready to hijack it and fly it back here.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on March 01, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Beautiful Mike!!

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on March 02, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
Mike, if you don't mind revealing some secrets...  When you use this technique, do you have to match grains (IOW, does the grain of the top layer of tissue match the grain of the bottom layer) or does it really matter?  Does the top layer go on wet/damp, or do you rely on dope to snug things down?  Finally, one of the issues I've had when I've tried to use multi-layer tissue (e.g., applying trim, large numerals) is..."differential shrinking (??):"  The first layer of tissue (presumably shrunk and doped?) is "puckered" by the shrinking of the second layer of tissue when it shrinks.  You've clearly found a way around this...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on March 04, 2012, 08:27:33 PM
Hi Word
The top (2nd layer) tissue is always dry.
When I apply tissue over tissue I water shrink base layer and apply 1 lt dope coat prior to applying the 2nd
different color tissue over the top. A small piece, I use thinner flowed thru the top tissue piece to adhere.
A large overlay piece I adhere the edges then water shrink. After the top tissue is tight I flow thinner
to attach the 2nd layer. Then one more lt dope coat over all.
Sometimes if I feel a pucker may occur I will apply a 2nd lt coat of dope to the underly area only to add adhesive effect
and hold the tissue tighter, lessening the pucker. If a pucker occurs I can usually water shrink both layers and eventually
they come out.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on March 05, 2012, 10:52:06 AM
By the way, Mike's techniques work well when applying tissue lettering to a finished surface, i.e. black registration numbers, or things like US ARMY printed on the bottom of some of the WWII trainers.  Cutting them out, then using thinner through the letter onto a thin dope coating on the main tissue piece snuggles it down better than a decal in a lot of cases.  A coat of thin dope on top finishes things up and seals the edges.  I use black-chalked black Esaki for most of my lettering that's black.  I'll have a chance to practice on the Piper Cub I've been working on. . .

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on March 06, 2012, 03:52:52 PM
Elsewhere on these pages Caley confesses to building a P20 rubber model.

Out here on the Wet Coast, the BC Aces are busy doing likewise, so here's mine - they don't take long to build, these little guys!

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 06, 2012, 04:13:20 PM
John, Very nice.  Yes, they are quick to build, but for me, teaching them to fly is the hard part.  All my models give me fits in that regard.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 06, 2012, 07:47:26 PM
Elsewhere on these pages Caley confesses to building a P20 rubber model.

Out here on the Wet Coast, the BC Aces are busy doing likewise, so here's mine - they don't take long to build, these little guys!

John

Nice one, John. Is that your own design or someone elses?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 08, 2012, 08:19:06 PM
I recently made a pledge to myself to not start any new planes until I've finished or officially abandoned the half built or more ones laying around. Here's the first 2 I've got completed.
One is a 70% Miss Canada, finished in the same general color scheme as my full size one.
The other is an enlarged Yellow Cab embryo. I scaled it up 150% and nicknamed it the "Big Yellow Taxi".

One model, a self designed cabin model, I've given up on. It just wasn't turning out right.

More as they get done.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on March 08, 2012, 10:06:05 PM
Here are some pictures of the Veron Sopwith tripe.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on March 08, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
And here are pics of my Fleet canuk in the works.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 08, 2012, 10:14:33 PM
Bargle and Weetle, Some very interesting subjects, well done.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 09, 2012, 06:27:52 AM
Thanks, Caley.
A triplane, I'm not sure I'll ever try one of those. You're a more intrepid man than I am, Weetle.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on March 09, 2012, 06:39:50 AM
I recently made a pledge to myself to not start any new planes until I've finished or officially abandoned the half built or more ones laying around.

Hehe, I've made the same resolve! I'm currently at 10 unfinished models  :o
Nice work both of you.

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on March 09, 2012, 10:19:19 AM
Bargle,

Be careful.  "Big Yellow Taxi" might take away your old man.

Jon,

You only have 10 unfinished?  I have about 3 x that many, and some have been covered for years.  You'd think I should be able to finish them up when they're that close.  I have a covered West Wings Spitfire that's been patiently waiting for about 6 years, an SB2U Vindicator waiting for a canopy, prop, and markings, and a Miles Magister that's covered awaiting assembly.  I wanted to finish them this spring, but it seems there's lots else for me to do and I haven't advanced them much.  I did make a bomb, gun, and crew for the SB2U. . .

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on March 09, 2012, 10:34:05 AM
Oh I forgot my WW Spit... that's 11!  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: scrubs on March 09, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
I recently made a pledge to myself to not start any new planes until I've finished or officially abandoned the half built or more ones laying around. Here's the first 2 I've got completed.
One is a 70% Miss Canada, finished in the same general color scheme as my full size one.
The other is an enlarged Yellow Cab embryo. I scaled it up 150% and nicknamed it the "Big Yellow Taxi".

One model, a self designed cabin model, I've given up on. It just wasn't turning out right.

More as they get done.

Let us know how the Miss Canada flies. I scaled the Miss Canada to a little smaller than yours, 22" maybe and checked against the embryo "box" and wing area. It's legal, the only mod I can see is making the windscreen a little steeper. But now the plan's been sitting for a couple of years so who knows when it will get built.

scrubs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 09, 2012, 08:38:12 PM
Goofed post. Ignore.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 09, 2012, 08:44:01 PM
I recently made a pledge to myself to not start any new planes until I've finished or officially abandoned the half built or more ones laying around.

Hehe, I've made the same resolve! I'm currently at 10 unfinished models  :o
Nice work both of you.

Jon

Thanks, Jon. I've got (uh... let's see) 6 unfinished. A Phantom Fury, Cloud Tramp, Scaled down Gollywock, double size Sleek Streek, Scientific Skymaster and an EmbryOK. Props and nose blocks/prop hangers are the main holdups.

Bargle,

Be careful.  "Big Yellow Taxi" might take away your old man.

Justin

I knew that joke was comin'. Enjoyed it just the same.  :D

Let us know how the Miss Canada flies. I scaled the Miss Canada to a little smaller than yours, 22" maybe and checked against the embryo "box" and wing area. It's legal, the only mod I can see is making the windscreen a little steeper. But now the plan's been sitting for a couple of years so who knows when it will get built.

scrubs

Will do. I haven't weighed it yet, but it feels light in the hand. Of course that may be wishful thinking.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dimeflyer on March 10, 2012, 10:52:38 PM
Gee guys I don't fell so bad about the # of planes I haven't finished yet,
I only have 14 left to finish now ?!?!
George


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Lordofthewings on March 11, 2012, 10:26:12 AM
Hey chaps, well not quite my Latest Creation but the most recent (and only) piece of video I have been able to upload, you may enjoy viewing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTUn0pX0i-8
(I built the model in 1994/5, it's still in my loft and the Spring weather here on the South coast of England is beautiful, so I can feel a set of stepladders coming in handy soon).


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 11, 2012, 11:43:55 AM

Let us know how the Miss Canada flies. I scaled the Miss Canada to a little smaller than yours, 22" maybe and checked against the embryo "box" and wing area. It's legal, the only mod I can see is making the windscreen a little steeper. But now the plan's been sitting for a couple of years so who knows when it will get built.

scrubs

Will do. I haven't weighed it yet, but it feels light in the hand. Of course that may be wishful thinking.

Well, it came in at 24.6 grams without rubber. This is lighter than my 2 similarly sized Cloud Busters, so I'm pleased with that. The flying, however, didn't go well. See the "Went Flyin" thread for details.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 11, 2012, 01:19:38 PM
LOTW,  Very nice parkflyer.  I just love slow flying airplanes.   :)  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Lordofthewings on March 11, 2012, 04:04:02 PM
LOTW,  Very nice parkflyer.  I just love slow flying airplanes.   :)  Caley
Er... not quite a Park Flyer, that's an 8ft wingspan model. Perhaps parks are bigger in the U.S. too ??????  I've just been out test-running my (original) Forster 99 ign engine, wonderful noise on an 18" prop, it's destined for a F/F Taibi Hornet.  I was inspired to build one having seen photos of Steve Dona's in 2004 (pic attached); "we're gonna need a bigger park !"


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on March 12, 2012, 06:46:08 PM
Bargle,
Sorry to have missed your query about my P.20 - it is an Own Design.

Test glided at the weekend - looked OK - roll away those clouds, let's get flying!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: CapnTitePnz on March 12, 2012, 07:39:25 PM
hmmm... well, my newest creation is yet another model added to my "to be completed" list- DPC's new "pseudo-dime" Alby D.III.  In a generic Purina air force scheme. I hate the lofting-the-top-wing-onto-the-cabanes part.


-Wayne


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 12, 2012, 07:53:40 PM
Bargle,
Sorry to have missed your query about my P.20 - it is an Own Design.

Test glided at the weekend - looked OK - roll away those clouds, let's get flying!

Thanks, John. Looking forward to a powered flight report.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 12, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
Wayne,  All I can say is "That is one cool looking bipe."  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RolandD6 on March 12, 2012, 08:28:47 PM
hmmm... well, my newest creation is yet another model added to my "to be completed" list- DPC's new "pseudo-dime" Alby D.III.  In a generic Purina air force scheme. I hate the lofting-the-top-wing-onto-the-cabanes part.


-Wayne

A very nice looking model Wayne.
You may hate "lofting" the top wing but I would be very surprised if you cannot do the job well.

Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 16, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
Nice stuff showing up here!  I haven't been able to get much building done for the past two weeks due to various matters, but did manage a little more on my FROG(gy) "HERON".

The rolling bits are done and just need paint, and the tail surfaces are covered.  I've decided NOT to paint or chalk, but to try a multi-colored, all tissue (but fairly simple) scheme.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 16, 2012, 07:00:49 PM
Very nice Pete.  The tail kind of reminds me of the Ercoupe.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on March 17, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
Nice stuff showing up here!  I haven't been able to get much building done for the past two weeks due to various matters, but did manage a little more on my FROG(gy) "HERON".

The rolling bits are done and just need paint, and the tail surfaces are covered.  I've decided NOT to paint or chalk, but to try a multi-colored, all tissue (but fairly simple) scheme.

Outstanding Pit....built a modified plan with longerons and truss box fuselage...your is outstanding I went with a between the wars scheme yellow wings blue fuselage Tom's Frog Heron (http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1266293715/15)

Here's a pic of my latest project New Standard D-25 so far...
Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 17, 2012, 03:27:23 PM
Thanks peoples!  Tom:  I was originally planning to do a built-up fuz for mine, but a SEVERE case of lazitus smote me down ;D.  I also figured it might go against the grain to those chaps on the Island across the Channel (theyz TOO close ::))!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 19, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
Never mind. I goofed.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on March 19, 2012, 08:07:09 PM
Full post in the indoor forum, but I've flown this (cat) bird in the street and it does lazy circles like a dream!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7225/6997632179_b66cb0e322_b_d.jpg)

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 19, 2012, 08:10:37 PM
Hey Barggle,  Looks like a Big Pussycat.  They fly very well.  Just have to determine while building exactly what kind of turn you want, and set the fins to your taste.  I built one, flew it a few times, and then gave it away to a young lady while in Eloy a few years ago.  It certainly flew nicely.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 19, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
Looks good, Shig.

That's Shig's plane, Caley.

Watch out! My screwups are catching!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on March 19, 2012, 08:34:13 PM
Looks good, Shig.

That's Shig's plane, Caley.

Watch out! My screwups are catching!

No screwups!!

Street flying vid:

http://youtu.be/zITlMI8bBxI

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 19, 2012, 09:00:52 PM
Hey Shig, Sorry.  Those words were for you.  I thought I was answering Bargle when he posted something, and then it disappeared, and then your model appeared.  Draw it up to one of those famous senior moments.   :)  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 24, 2012, 10:12:17 PM
Next one from the 'Get 'em done' group. My modified Cloud Tramp that I've renamed the Cloud Hobo. The mods were extensive enough that I didn't think calling it by the original name was quite right.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 24, 2012, 10:34:41 PM
Looks like a CT to me, though I am not good at remembering what models look like sometimes.  But to me, that qualifies for a CT.  Nice looking model.  Bargle, you've really been hacking the balsa lately.  Lots of very nice airplanes.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on March 24, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
Next one from the 'Get 'em done' group. My modified Cloud Tramp that I've renamed the Cloud Hobo. The mods were extensive enough that I didn't think calling it by the original name was quite right.

I always thought it was an odd idea to put the rubber above the stick. I like what you've done.

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 25, 2012, 08:54:57 AM
Thanks, Caley and Shig.  Putting the rubber above the stick was fairly common during the 30s-50s I've learned.

This one was started to particpate in the Cloud Tramp mass launch nearly 2 years ago. This year I should be a doer, not a watcher.

Changes I made: Moved wing to top of stick. Reversed the wingtip shape. Mounted the wing parallel to the stick instead of angled. Mounted the stab at an angle for decalage, instead. Moved the rubber to the bottom of the fuselage  and shortened the length. Made a prop hanger from tubing and wire.

The wingtip shape reversal was actually a goof. I didn't realize I had glued the ribs on reversed until they were all on and I didn't want to do them over.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 25, 2012, 06:06:50 PM
Bargle,
Your 'Cloud Hobo' looks pretty good. Hope it flies well.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 25, 2012, 07:03:09 PM
Thanks, Dave.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 25, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
Keep that motor out of the dirt!
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 25, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
Will do, as much as I can, anyway.  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Steven Wrigley on March 25, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
I had the urge to build a plane in a few hours. So I did. And it shows. I didnt have any wood except for a whole mess of Guillows sticks I got for a dollar a while back at the Carlisle swap meet. It thought it would be realy heavy but its actualy on the light side. Which is odd because the sticks are Guillows...... They were probably from the 60s at the latest. But anyway heres my Akro! I had no idea such a simple little thing could fly so good especially when I only had 3 hours into it. I listened to Cabin Pressure a BBC radio comedy about a one plane airline while I worked. Well worth the listen for any aviation nut.  Excuse the mess in the background.....


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on March 26, 2012, 06:21:54 AM
Nice akro Steven.

I listened to Cabin Pressure a BBC radio comedy about a one plane airline while I worked.

Yes it's very funny! Unfortunately I think I'm more like the uptight pilot than the dodgy one  :-\


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 27, 2012, 06:08:21 PM
Thanks, Caley and Shig.  Putting the rubber above the stick was fairly common during the 30s-50s I've learned.

This one was started to particpate in the Cloud Tramp mass launch nearly 2 years ago. This year I should be a doer, not a watcher.

Changes I made: Moved wing to top of stick. Reversed the wingtip shape. Mounted the wing parallel to the stick instead of angled. Mounted the stab at an angle for decalage, instead. Moved the rubber to the bottom of the fuselage  and shortened the length. Made a prop hanger from tubing and wire.

The wingtip shape reversal was actually a goof. I didn't realize I had glued the ribs on reversed until they were all on and I didn't want to do them over.
Don't feel too bad...I did exactly the same with mine ::).  Didn't seem to make any difference to the flying capabilities.

Pete


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 27, 2012, 07:03:59 PM
Nice to know I'm not alone. Thanks, Pete.   ;)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 28, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
Cross another one off the list. I finished my downsized Gollywock (not the one I'm building in Caley's thread). Man, I'm going have a time getting all these things trimmed and flying well. Anyway, here's a pic.  I don't know why my camera makes the rudder and prop look violet, but they're not.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 28, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
WOW!
Didn't know/forgot you were building this one.
NICE.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 28, 2012, 08:57:22 PM
Bargle, Nice GollyGeeWock, or whatever you call a downsized one.  Maybe the combination of colours and the blanket colour kind of reflected onto those areas to create a violet colour.  If you used a flash, that is possible.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on March 29, 2012, 02:32:59 AM
Cross another one off the list. I finished my downsized Gollywock (not the one I'm building in Caley's thread). Man, I'm going have a time getting all these things trimmed and flying well. Anyway, here's a pic.  I don't know why my camera makes the rudder and prop look violet, but they're not.
I like!  What's the span on that one?

Maybe call it the Ewok? ;)

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 29, 2012, 06:54:18 AM
Thanks, Dave.

Might be the case, Caley. I did use a flash.

Shig, it's about 24". According to my plan notes, it's a 72% version. Don't take that as a certainty, though. For some reason the fuselage shrunk top to bottom. Apparently, a printing program error. No telling what it may have done to the other parts. I didn't realize it was thinner until it was finished.

That leaves the Skymaster, Sorta Phantom Fury and the EmbryOK to finish.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on March 29, 2012, 01:26:16 PM
Thanks, Dave.

Might be the case, Caley. I did use a flash.

Shig, it's about 24". According to my plan notes, it's a 72% version. Don't take that as a certainty, though. For some reason the fuselage shrunk top to bottom. Apparently, a printing program error. No telling what it may have done to the other parts. I didn't realize it was thinner until it was finished.

That leaves the Skymaster, Sorta Phantom Fury and the EmbryOK to finish.

I'd love to see what you've done to "sorta-ize" the PF!

Also, isn't the Wok a 31-1/2" span stock?  That'd make the 24" just over 75%.  How tall did the fuse end up?

Also, I noticed you deleted some ribs on the wing though you may have added spars?  Looking to shave some weight?

What did it end up weighing if I may ask?

_SHig





Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 29, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
I'd love to see what you've done to "sorta-ize" the PF!

Also, isn't the Wok a 31-1/2" span stock?  That'd make the 24" just over 75%.  How tall did the fuse end up?

Also, I noticed you deleted some ribs on the wing though you may have added spars?  Looking to shave some weight?

What did it end up weighing if I may ask?

_SHig

Basicly, the Sorta Phantom Fury has a simplified fuselage. I'll post a picture when it's done and give details then.

Wingspan on the 'wock is 22 & 1/2". Weight is between 27 & 28 grams without rubber. As I often do on oldtimer designs, I split the single large spar and put half at the top and half at the bottom of the rib. A bit stiffer and I break fewer ribs if I don't have to put deep notches in them. I space the ribs between 1.5" and 1.75", and use however many that ends up being. I did add another lower spar between the main spars and the TE. Makes it easier for me to get the tissue stuck well to the undercamber. The fuselage is 1 & 3/4" at the thickest point, which is around the wing mount. Measurement does not include the wing rail.

 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: CapnTitePnz on March 30, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
wow, Bargle- you really are gettin' 'em done!

Finished my DPC "pseudo dime" Albatros (pseudo-Oeffag) D.III.



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on March 30, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
If only I was gettin' 'em right. I just realized today that I goofed the center dihedral break on the reduced Golly. That will need fixin'.

And your D. III looks great.   :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Eduardo Yamin on March 30, 2012, 09:31:37 PM
http://www.eduardoyamin.blogspot.com.ar/2012/03/woodstock-de-omar-grasseti.html

 :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 01, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
This one is quite literally my newest creation... created er today in fact!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 01, 2012, 10:18:53 PM
That looks very nice.  Is that a Ryan STA?  I'm not too famiiar with scale models, so I am just guessing.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 02, 2012, 04:57:30 AM
That looks very nice.  Is that a Ryan STA?  I'm not too famiiar with scale models, so I am just guessing.  Caley

Yeah it's a Comet nickel scale 'Ryan Trainer' (The ST in ST-A stands for Sport Trainer) I made some mods to the original plan (the UC, an extra pair of stringers and an enlarged stab.) It was my attempt for the SFA Quick BUild Challenge, some of the guys did get all the way to a finished model though.... bonkers!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dohrmc on April 02, 2012, 12:08:15 PM
Our club's Model of the Year is any Earl Stahl scale model.  I am building a Stahl O-57 from an old RN kit.  So far, so good.  What you see here weighs 35.5 grams with a wing span around 32".  Hopefully, it will fly well.   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 02, 2012, 12:36:04 PM
Dem bones sure luk gud.  It is hard to believe than anything Mr Earl Stahl designed wouldn't fly well.  I know the Cubs  down Uruguay way have been building quite a few of his designs and flying they fairly successfully.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on April 02, 2012, 01:02:31 PM
This is my most recent model, a Walt Mooney Hyannis Bostonian. 

It's a little overweight at 15.5 grams.   I had fun making it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Wout Moerman on April 02, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
Nice colours, Craig! When I saw the photo I new directly it  was one of your models.

Wout


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on April 02, 2012, 08:26:37 PM
Good lookin', Climber. Thanks for showing it to us.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 02, 2012, 08:35:31 PM
Climber,  Yes, that kind of wing graphics is definitely your trademark.  Very nice.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on April 03, 2012, 03:14:23 AM
Roman inspired me with his Bostonian Bostang B-51...so I had to give it a try...here's where I am so far....

Red Tail B-51 of the Tuskeegee Airmen...

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 03, 2012, 07:24:35 AM
Tom,  That is so cute.  Kind of like a cartoon character of the Mustang.   :)  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Steven Wrigley on April 03, 2012, 10:08:34 PM
Heres my newest creation. Started and finished on Sunday in the SFA Quick Build Challenge Race Challenge..... Dimescale Bellanca Junior. I think I see a 36 incher in my future.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 04, 2012, 07:12:02 AM
Well done Steven, you did really well to finish it in time - good job!

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 05, 2012, 06:58:37 PM
My newest creation is a lidgard HiHo here shown in stick mode. I am still working on the pylon which is used for cabin/wakefield mode.

Covered with doculam, color is designmaster spray and blue tissue, weight is 105g empty, 210g fully wound.

Bernard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 05, 2012, 07:27:04 PM
Bernard, very nice, especially the graphics and colour layout.  I guess this is a large stick from the weight given.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 05, 2012, 08:10:49 PM
Thanks Caley...yes large stick/cabin/wakefield.

BG


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 05, 2012, 08:28:08 PM
HI Bernard
A stunning model, I just had to Google "Doculam", is there no end to these modern materials? Your graphics are stunning could you share your process with us.
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on April 05, 2012, 08:39:24 PM
Seconding Caley and Dave on the graphics. Very nice.

The plan I found somewhere on the 'net lists the wingspan as 40" and the length as 38", so yes, a large sized one. Maybe a good candidate for a scaled down version? I definitely like the look without the cabin better.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 05, 2012, 10:07:07 PM
The graphics are quite simple to do. First get some decal paper from your favourite supplier (I got mine from Micromark). Then using your favourite graphics program (I use adobe illustrator) draw or write what you want adjust font size and stye etc. When happy put the decal paper in the laser printer, set the printer to print on heavy gloss coated paper and print. Now you have decals along the lines of what you would get in a plastic kit. Next and most important: spray a good coat of fixative or glossy laquer to seal and strengthen the decals. When this dries go ahead and apply em. I also give the decals a final coat of sealant after they are one the model.

B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on April 06, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
That is truly beautiful Bernard and I don’t want to detract in any way from that statement if I mention something that I haven’t seen raised on the forum before and which I think might be of interest.

It is noticeable that on the western side of the pond a lot of model builders do pay great attention to the decoration of their models whereas, on this side, that is not the case.  Memory tells me that is was prevalent in the 1940s to the 60s but that in more recent years most competition flyers will eschew everything except the compulsory membership number.  This is partly because if something isn’t there it can’t weigh anything but much more because a competition model, properly flown, will need repairs.  Properly flown means flown in all conditions; the repairs are rarely for a crash,more usually for damage after a flight, slid or cartwheeled along a runway, blown into a fence, retrieved from a tree and such like.  Repairs, if only tissue rips, will often be needed before the next flight and these are usually less trouble with an undecorated model.
 
That is just my take, I would be interested in other opinions.  Oh! And by the way, the Hi-Ho is gorgeous.
John



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 06, 2012, 12:57:10 PM
John, I totally understand where you're coming from when you mention all those hazards you guys have to fly over, around and through.  Yes, keeping things simple, makes required repairs a lot easier.
  Some of us over the pond are blessed with wide open spaces, and maybe that allows more eclectic pursuits when it comes to finishing a model aeroplane.
  As for why I decorate my models so vividly, I am a really mean person who just loves torturing the semses of fellow flyers.  How else do you expect me to win.   ;D  And with that tale, I sign off and head for cover.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rewinged on April 06, 2012, 02:42:13 PM
Caley, you totalled failed in "torturing the senses" of this flier, or else I wouldn't have inspired to emulate your beautiful Majestyk rainbow color scheme using Design Master.  But I have had some less-than-flattering references to my rainbows.  (But some flattering ones too.)

Back on topic, I'm sure there are a bunch of us who likely wouldn't even fly (much) if we had to deal with the conditions I hear some of you blokes need to contend with.  In February I had an HLG flight DT within 5 feet of the glider pen, and at a contest last summer I stared at a bunch of models in a thermal for almost a minute before I decided I was being stupid by not piggybacking.  Went ahead and launched, and caught the thermal. 

I don't like wind, and I'm sure I would care a bit less about aerodynamic trim, much less care about aesthetics, if my planes were likely to end up doing cartwheels and the like.  I'd rather deal with rain.

Really back on topic--BG, that model looks awesome.

--Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 06, 2012, 03:15:06 PM
BG,
Your HiHo 'stick' is really nice but, saying "The graphics are quite simple to do" needs some clarification.
Adobe Illustrator will cost about $500.00. A color, Laser printer may cost the same. NOT so easy to do!
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 06, 2012, 03:47:49 PM
Hi All,
Thanks for the positive comments. John your comments regarding decoration are well founded and you will note that my decorations although vivid is actually more a practical consideration than anything else. I always try to get red on the tips and fins and stab so that I can easily spot my model on the ground (human eye is drawn to reds). I always try to keep the undersurfaces darkish (red in this case) for visibility in the air. I like to have a light color (usually white) on the center panels because I use clear decal paper and so my registration and other stuff shows up better with a white background. The only real decorations are the "HiHo"decal and the blue stripes made from blue tissue) ...The decals are easy for me to make and apply because I have access to a laser printer and, illustrator and decal paper....maybe I should start a little cottage business specializing in decals and the like?? Would any of you buy em?. Anyway the point is that for me the decorations etc. are easy and in this case because I covered with clear doculam, necessary because clear models are all but invisible on the ground and in the air. As for repairs...well I fully anticipate needing to do this and have no problem with this aspect. A well flown, well patched model does not offend my eye at all.

Decals: it is true that access to the right equipment makes the job easier. I would be happy to make custom decals to order for any of you for a reasonable fee.

Bernard



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 06, 2012, 04:29:39 PM
BG,
Taking this one to the AMA Nats this summer?
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 06, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
Hi Dave,
I hope to make it to the SAM champs and possibly the AMA nats (time permitting). Are there old timer classes at the AMA nats?? I was planning to fly F1B and possibly F1G.

B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on April 07, 2012, 03:06:48 PM
Well I thought I'd throw this out there. Finally after two and a half years of off and on drawing/building, my Aerowerkes Fokker E-V is now finished.  Scaled at 1:16, as it sits now
without covering she comes in at 26.5g.  Most of the lumber is in her wing. She could be lighter but I didn't have any good contest grade material on hand so the primary build was to test and check parts fit. The rotory engine is built up and comes with the kit along with a vac formed cowling.  I
didn't add the guns but those are also furnished in the kit. Hope you enjoy the views of the prototype.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 07, 2012, 03:39:37 PM
Skyraider, Those are certainly some very nice looking bones.  Wonderful work.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on April 07, 2012, 04:33:03 PM
Here is HiHo with pylon....not really happy with it. As expected the dope has pulled it out of shape. It will work for now (will fly it in the SCIFF SCAMPS event at lost hills in a couple of weeks) but I think I will eventually rebuild the pylon.

b



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 07, 2012, 05:05:23 PM
Looks pretty good to me, Bernard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 08, 2012, 10:53:03 AM
Hi Dave,
I hope to make it to the SAM champs and possibly the AMA nats (time permitting). Are there old timer classes at the AMA nats?? I was planning to fly F1B and possibly F1G.

B

My mistake again. NO OT classes at the AMA Nats and OT Models are not allowed to fly in Nostalgia classes.
I think this is correct.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on April 09, 2012, 10:50:21 AM
I've been posting the progress of the build on the Senator thread, but now that she's ready to fly, I thought I'd post it up here.

75% scale and my first Senator of any size.  36 grams withut rubber so there's plenty of room for improvement weight-wise.

Hope to get it in the air under power so I can post a video.  Weather isn't cooperating though...

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5455/6913202222_2456bc7962_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5443/7059290127_448f3077f5_b_d.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/7059287611_ecc3ecc00c_b_d.jpg)

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 09, 2012, 01:39:45 PM
Nice workmanship!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on April 09, 2012, 07:56:43 PM
Agreed. The tissue came out very nice.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: scrubs on April 10, 2012, 02:56:21 PM
Here is HiHo with pylon....not really happy with it. As expected the dope has pulled it out of shape. It will work for now (will fly it in the SCIFF SCAMPS event at lost hills in a couple of weeks) but I think I will eventually rebuild the pylon.

b
With or without it's a beautiful model. I find my quality of building seems to be going down over the last 3-4 years so I tend towards plain and simple. Same result as John but for a different reason.

scrubs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on April 10, 2012, 03:38:27 PM
My mistake again. NO OT classes at the AMA Nats and OT Models are not allowed to fly in Nostalgia classes.
Look here: http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/nats/natsschedule.aspx
There ARE OT events at the USA Nats (OT rubber stick and cabin + FAC events and so on).
So It looks like there are events for Bernard's HiHo and Gollywock and ......

Tmat
-I'll be there


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 11, 2012, 07:02:11 AM
Nice work SHig!

Here's my finished Frog Raven (from the bones in post #52). Weight before rubber is 16.2g with a 6" peck prop. It will probably need some noseweight but it's not far off inspite of the sheet tail surfaces. The colour scheme was copied from WarrenB's double-sized radio Raven.

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Konrad on April 11, 2012, 08:34:17 AM
Guys,
I'm always so impressed by what I see here in these inspirational post. I'd like to ask that along with the nice photos that there be some engineering specs, any thing, prop size, rubber strands, rubber weight etc .  I for one often have never seen or heard of many of the models shown. So a little information other name would help put the models into perspective.

Again to everyone very nice work.
Konrad


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 11, 2012, 08:56:16 AM
I'd like to ask that along with the nice photos that there be some engineering specs, any thing, prop size, rubber strands, rubber weight etc...

I think that's a very good idea. It would build this thread up into a very useful resource.

The plan for Raven above is found at: http://www.houseoffrog.co.uk/senior_plans.htm (http://www.houseoffrog.co.uk/senior_plans.htm)

The span is 18". The prop shown is a 6" peck, but might get replaced with a 7". (The original was 6.5") I haven't flown it yet but I hope it will go on two strands of 1/8 or a longer motor of 3/16 rubber... we'll see.


Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 11, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
My mistake again. NO OT classes at the AMA Nats and OT Models are not allowed to fly in Nostalgia classes.
Look here: http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/nats/natsschedule.aspx
There ARE OT events at the USA Nats (OT rubber stick and cabin + FAC events and so on).
So It looks like there are events for Bernard's HiHo and Gollywock and ......

Tmat
-I'll be there

Thanks Tony,
I'm easily confused by all the differing rules.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on April 15, 2012, 02:38:53 PM
Another one crossed off the list. This one is the Sorta Phantom Fury. Weight without rubber is between 49 and 50 grams. Prop is 11".  I'll probably use a triple loop of 3/16 SS to power it.
I modified it because I screwed up building the original fuselage and wanted to go with something simpler. I changed it to a simple rectangular cross section, nose to tail. I moved the stab to the top of the fuselage. I changed the windscreen to a simple flat one. I made the landing gear a slide in style, but I'm not thrilled with how it turned out. This was why I asked for ideas on my Miss Canada build.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on April 16, 2012, 12:36:03 PM
I finished my entry for the Comet C/U - Allied ST - over the weekend and even squeezed in some trimming flights  :). I built the model from a GAR combo kit. Some more details and pictures are in the Comet C/U thread (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php/topic,8288.0.html).

I fitted the nose with a K/P adjustable nose block. The prop is the 5.5" prop which came in the kit. As trimmed, AUW came out to be 15.1g including about 1g of clay in the nose. Best flight so far was about 45 seconds on a 12" loop of 1/8" kit rubber wound to 1000 turns.

Best,

--Ates


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 17, 2012, 04:13:08 AM
Hi Ates
Well done. Very neat.  ;D ;D
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on April 17, 2012, 04:46:03 AM
That's really nice Ates! Did you print the tissue? Great weight too...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on April 17, 2012, 05:47:26 AM
Thank you for the nice comments folks.

Yes, the tissue is printed dollar store tissue. This was my first experimentation with printing and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

--Ates



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: higgsbason on April 17, 2012, 09:04:35 AM
Hi y'all, Here is a 7.5" penguin with an appropriate pilot ;D cast from Polyurathane, flames are hand painted.

Mike   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Wout Moerman on April 17, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
That penguin is really cute! Or maybe I should say those penguins!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 26, 2012, 12:51:18 PM
Here's the latest off the building board  ;D

It's the Nike from the '57 Zaic yearbook. A friend was flying one a couple of years ago and despite needing several pounds of church roof to offset the weight of the tail it glided superbly (My Inchworm was left floundering on one of those 'flat' days that occassionally appear)

Fast forward to the last 'Area' competition and I was reminded that my new super all singing huge classic glider is still some way from being completed so I decided to knock up one of these, trying to keep it nice and light. It's ended up at 310gms with the CofG at 55% and took about 3-4 weeks of spare time to put together.

Nothing special in the construction, just balsa, spruce, ply and tissue over mylar for the covering. The rudder is on the sub-fin just out of sight and operates by a sliding hook. Timer is my usual KSB and the black patch on the nose is electrical tape over a ballast box.

Looking forward to seeing her in the air

Cheers
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on April 26, 2012, 01:23:07 PM
Paul

I thought you'd been keeping quiet - doing a veritable Brer Rabbit and laying low ;D It looks jolly nice, and I like the colour scheme - looks like my preflown & re-covered A/1. Are you thinking of flying it this weekend on SP - the forecast looks as though you won't need to do much running on tow? ::)

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 26, 2012, 02:08:44 PM
Peter, Paul, nice looking airframes.Hope you both get a chance to give them some fright time.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 26, 2012, 02:38:55 PM
Cheers Caley


Are you thinking of flying it this weekend on SP - the forecast looks as though you won't need to do much running on tow? ::)

Peter

There'd be plenty of running - flat out towards the launcher  :P :D

Forecast looks pretty grotty don't it - torrential rain easing off to allow 40 mph winds . . . typical contest day eh Peter, see you there  ;)

Toodlepip
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on April 26, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
Look forward to seeing your happy smiling face again ;)

Saturday doesn't look too bad, but Sunday will be character building :o Have you heard if anyone has tried to get on the Plain since it's been raining? I think it'll be a weekend for 'low emotional involvement' models eh wot ;D

Peter

ps Thanks Caley!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 26, 2012, 05:12:39 PM
Gents, Still trying to understand your lingo.  Now, from what it sounds like, gale force winds, and the wet stuff?  What a hardy bunch of souls over there.  Anyway, if no flying, have a great time visiting, which I think is always the best part.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 27, 2012, 03:39:11 AM
Nope Peter - I'm guessing that driving on is probably best described as 'exciting' and assuming that you can reach the plateau we'll spend a lot of the day sitting in cars watching the rain lash the windows . . . fun, fun, fun  ::)

I was going to ask Peter T today what access is currently like (not having a 4WD) - I'll let you know if it seems dubious.

By the way I didn't realise you had any LEM's - I kind of like the old 'windy weather' toys; they've acquired a pattina of use over the years which a shiny new one doesn't have. Each patch and repair reminds of good times had flying with chums

Off to dig out the Sou'wester
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on April 27, 2012, 05:04:01 AM
Paul

Thanks, any info from Peter would be much appreciated. All of my models seem to reach the LEM stage pretty quickly due to trimming at Chobham & flying at Beaulieu - c'est la vie - perhaps I ought to take up indoor stuff instead :(

I've just finished a revamped P30, new wings, modified fus & new tail. I was intending to fly it tomorrow, but now common sense is starting to prevail, and I'll keep it for the Nats. Though I suspect we'll have 4 weeks of calm and then storms for the Nats - so what's new.

Cheers

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 27, 2012, 09:02:50 AM
Okay Peter (and anyone else who might be contemplating a trip to Salisbury Plain this weekend)

Not sure about the conditions underfoot, although after all this rain they will be  . . . . challenging? There is some planned Army activity detailed below to be aware of; this combined with the weather and a general feeling of malaise means I for one will probably stay at home  :'(

Have fun
Paul

Salisbury Plain is available for trimming this weekend 28/29th April, but with conditions:-
1/ On both days there will be Parachute drops on the adjacent dropping zone between the times of 1045/1134 hrs and 1345/1445 hrs and Hercules will most likely circle low over Area 8. Flying models should cease during these times.
2/ There will be night time flying exercises on both days. All model flying should cease at sun-set, which is at 2020 hrs.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on April 27, 2012, 09:13:46 AM
Paul

Thanks. I received Peter's e-mail direct as I'm on the list - of course the parachute jumping periods will no doubt coincide with the only bits of sunshine & gentle breezes ::)

Tomorrow's forecast doesn't look too bad with rain not predicted until after 4.00, so I'll probably go along anyway. Sunday's forecast is KR*P, with most sites predicting 25 mph winds gusting to 45-50mph....oh, and heavy rain as well. On that basis, despite being an aeromodelling masochist, I'll likely give it a miss ;D

Peter :'(


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on April 27, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
If it's any consolation Barkston's not much better and we've a comp on tomorrow. Thinks I might just spectate or volunteer as a time keeper.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 27, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
Two nice gliders... 

Paul - tell us more about the huge classic ?

A welcome return of the 10' floaters?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 27, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
Two nice gliders... 

Paul - tell us more about the huge classic ?

A welcome return of the 10' floaters?


Well perhaps huge is a tad OTT  :D

I've started a Pelican (cut all the ribs and have built the tailfeathers and started the fuz) I wanted something with lots of area that towed well and Rod Audley spoke very highly of his (and certainly it went well in the couple of FO's I timed) There are loads of Classics waiting in the wings though and I'd be tempted by something bigger  . . . .(although I've flown CL models that are a lot smaller than the tail on this thing) ;)

(That said I've got a Super Sunbug which is bl***y enormous and I can't get it in the car so it's been converted to RC) ???

Cheers
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 27, 2012, 06:25:13 PM
So how does converting it to R/C get it in the car ?     ???


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on April 28, 2012, 02:06:03 AM
So how does converting it to R/C get it in the car ?     ???
:D
Ah yes well . . . :-[
(Actually what I did was pass it on to my dad when I realised how big it was; I'd built the fuz/wing tips and tail by this stage and he decided that he would be able to fly it radio assist locally. The car that he did have at the start of the conversion was then written off in an accident and the subsequent newer one was too small to take the fuz without it sticking out of the windscreen) :P

So now it resides in my mums stairwell (Dad died a few years back) and each time I visit I take a look and wonder if I jsut stripped out the RC stuff  . . . . . :-\

So I can (just) fit it in my car provided I have no passengers and not much luggage

Cheers
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on April 30, 2012, 04:58:28 PM
Cross another one off the list. I finished my downsized Gollywock (not the one I'm building in Caley's thread). Man, I'm going have a time getting all these things trimmed and flying well. Anyway, here's a pic.  I don't know why my camera makes the rudder and prop look violet, but they're not.

Hey Bargle,

Ever get this guy in the air?  Curious to see how it trimmed out.

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on April 30, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
It's a Cessna.
I was so fired up about the other topic, I grabbed it....put 300 winds on.... and flew it in the rain.
http://youtu.be/uQMGlOGTAbc

It was fun to design, a challenge to build...even for me..And it likes to fly.
I don't sell anything I do. So I think it's okay that I built it.
It has a 4" prop, 8" loop of 3/32", and weighs about 14 grams.

tross


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 30, 2012, 08:30:24 PM
Tross,  Very nicely done.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on April 30, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
Hey Bargle,

Ever get this guy in the air?  Curious to see how it trimmed out.

_SHig

Not yet, Shig. I am planning a flying session later this week and will be taking that one along. I'll let y'all know then.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on April 30, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
Tross....

Cessna is top-notch....great job....enjoyed the video ;D 8)

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on May 01, 2012, 11:34:37 AM
tross,
Your little Cessna is a real beauty!
Is there a design/build thread here on HPA?
Thanks a million,
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on May 01, 2012, 11:38:58 AM
Tony, the little skycatcher is really cute! You've caught the lines perfectly.
What size is it? It looks quite small.

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on May 01, 2012, 09:31:49 PM
 ::)  i've just finished the Keil Kraft Super Cub with a span of 21 inches  Rubber Power.  The weight is 35 gm and It appears to be a decent flier once it gets trimmed  I used 1/16 foam for the tail feathers which is great for adjustments.

pics to follow when decals are on

JIM ;D  8)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on May 02, 2012, 12:35:52 PM
Thanks Caley, Tom, Dave.
Dave, sorry. I didn't do a thread on this one.
If I do it again, and I may..I can post some pics as I go if you think it would be a benefit.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on May 02, 2012, 12:38:11 PM
Hi Jon,

Thank you. Yeah, I decided to go ahead with the peanut scale version.
Here are a couple more pics.
Representing it was a trade off as you suggested.
I had to leave out some bits, else it become a nice paper weight.
As far as cute goes, yeah...now it is. But it was a real ugly duckling during fabrication.
The stab and fin are scale, as is the moment arm.
I did increase the wing chordwise I think 3/16", but now I'm not sure it really needed it.
It doesn't appreciate increased airspeed. So it's not a windy day flyer.
2 coats of dope over the Esaki was scary, so on top of that 2 coats of insignia white
and then 2 coats of spray laquer.
It's pretty much water proof. ::)
I should have weighed it after flying in the rain.
I'll get some longer rubber in it and try a sunny day next time. ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on May 02, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
Looks great!  8)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on May 02, 2012, 02:17:38 PM
I'm building a trike peanut right now and I'd love some detail on how you made the UC.  Are the struts rigid or do the flex on wire with clearance beveling at the fuze?

Are they removable or fixed?

Thanks!

_SHig

Hi Jon,

Thank you. Yeah, I decided to go ahead with the peanut scale version.
Here are a couple more pics.
Representing it was a trade off as you suggested.
I had to leave out some bits, else it become a nice paper weight.
As far as cute goes, yeah...now it is. But it was a real ugly duckling during fabrication.
The stab and fin are scale, as is the moment arm.
I did increase the wing chordwise I think 3/16", but now I'm not sure it really needed it.
It doesn't appreciate increased airspeed. So it's not a windy day flyer.
2 coats of dope over the Esaki was scary, so on top of that 2 coats of insignia white
and then 2 coats of spray laquer.
It's pretty much water proof. ::)
I should have weighed it after flying in the rain.
I'll get some longer rubber in it and try a sunny day next time. ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Maxout on May 02, 2012, 03:04:52 PM
Oh let's try something a little different.

This is my latest. Weight at present is 316 mg. The prop has proven to be far stronger than necessary, so with a new one, we should be around 305 mg, the same as Richmond's. I'll be building a whole new model in the coming days for USIC, where the larger space means less to run into and thus less stability required. That should allow me to shed 30 mg or so.

It's done 16 minutes in Cat I with the non-flaring prop shown. I expect to gain quite a bit of time from a flaring prop, as it's climbing like a rocket right now and wasting power smacking around on the ceiling. The climb lasts at least 12 minutes, and I'm still nowhere near full torque at launch.

If you haven't guessed, I am definitely very excited about this one. It is the best EZB I've ever built by a huge margin--my first ever even go below 450 mg. Kang Lee's wing and stab outlines are so vastly superior than the ones on the Hobbyshopper series that it's like I'm not even flying the same class of airplanes anymore. The elliptical outlines let you go ridiculously light and still have gobs of torsional stability from the flying surfaces.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on May 02, 2012, 03:52:40 PM
Here is my Viking flying at long last.  Took it to Muncie for One Design but by Thursday, the heat was too much.  Finally got air under its' wings last weekend at the Sod Farm near Atlanta.  Over elevated still and a second flight ended when I accidently tripped the DT.  By the time I got ready to go again the traveling sprinkler system was upon us! 

Hope to find a local field for testing.  I had forgotten how strong that engine was!  Can't wait to get it dialed in.

This is also my first attempt at attaching a picure.  Hope it works.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on May 02, 2012, 04:03:10 PM
FlyDean,  Picture came out great.  Great lookin' model.  Hope you get it dialed in, and get a chance to give it it's legs.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on May 02, 2012, 04:04:42 PM
Hi All,
Here is a shot of my HiHo wakefield sallying forth...new fuselage under construction as one seen here was too fragile for regular contest work.

Bernard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on May 02, 2012, 06:04:04 PM
BG....

Great shot and what a magnificent backdrop to your flying site.  Beautiful model.

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on May 02, 2012, 06:35:40 PM
Thanks...yes the view is good...the Canadian Rockies in all their splendour.

Bernard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 03, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
Hey Bargle,

Ever get this guy in the air?  Curious to see how it trimmed out.

_SHig

Not yet, Shig. I am planning a flying session later this week and will be taking that one along. I'll let y'all know then.

OK, flying session went well. I'm using a double loop of 3/16 rubber a little longer than the nose to peg length.  It needed a 3/32 + a 1/64 right side thrust shim with 1/32 under the wing spar. On 650 winds I got a 1minute 8 second flight. I'm pleased with that. Doesn't seem to have any bad traits. Yay! Here's a pic. Sorry about the poor quality. I forgot my sport viewfinder and had to set the zoom a bit wider than I would have liked.
Oh, I've decided to nickname this one the GollyGosh.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on May 03, 2012, 01:05:36 PM
Hey Bargle,

Ever get this guy in the air?  Curious to see how it trimmed out.

_SHig

Not yet, Shig. I am planning a flying session later this week and will be taking that one along. I'll let y'all know then.

OK, flying session went well. I'm using a double loop of 3/16 rubber a little longer than the nose to peg length.  It needed a 3/32 + a 1/64 right side thrust shim with 1/32 under the wing spar. On 650 winds I got a 1minute 8 second flight. I'm pleased with that. Doesn't seem to have any bad traits. Yay! Here's a pic. Sorry about the poor quality. I forgot my sport viewfinder and had to set the zoom a bit wider than I would have liked.
Oh, I've decided to nickname this one the GollyGosh.

Cool!  Looks like you totally re-covered it since the debut?

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 03, 2012, 04:06:10 PM
No, that's still the original covering, warts and all. Are you maybe thinking of the downsized Miss Canada? Yellow and white. That one is being a pain. Or maybe my fullsized Gollywock that's yellow with purple trim?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SHigSpeed on May 03, 2012, 06:17:35 PM
No, that's still the original covering, warts and all. Are you maybe thinking of the downsized Miss Canada? Yellow and white. That one is being a pain. Or maybe my fullsized Gollywock that's yellow with purple trim?

Ah yes, I was expecting yellow and purple.

_SHig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on May 04, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
 8) my Completed piper cub


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on May 04, 2012, 12:00:48 PM
Nice Piper...like the red and white scheme for a change  from the all yellow....

Very nicely done ;D 8)

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 04, 2012, 03:41:09 PM
Seconded. I never have liked Cub yellow.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on May 05, 2012, 07:35:31 PM
1933 Farman-Renault P-nut

This one owes much to M. E. Bollman's 1975 rendition (also a P-nut).  His, with a RETRACTABLE mono-wheel undercarriage, is much sexier than mine is.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on May 05, 2012, 08:05:33 PM
Wordguy...

Very nice...that pilot looks like he's having a great time.... ;)

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on May 05, 2012, 09:46:38 PM
It's a grimace:  Stark fear.

Both of the mono-wheels had less then stellar careers...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 05, 2012, 11:26:25 PM
It looks great, Wordguy. Well done.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on May 06, 2012, 11:29:49 AM
Lovely prop on it John, did you carve it or laminate it?

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on May 06, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
Thank you, Jon.

The prop is carved ( McComb's "X-block 2" block design), and the spinner is laminated from lots of cross-grained 1/16" balsa disks that are mounted on a bamboo mandrel and spun to shape.  The spinner is then notched with a dremel to receive the prop (no free-wheeler).

I use "pawlina" wood for props these days, not balsa.  It is quite light; carves, sands, and seals nicely; and seems to have sufficient guts to allow one to carve a reasonably thin blade.

The finish on the prop (and the airplane) is Deft Brushing Laquer


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on May 06, 2012, 12:01:01 PM
Very nice! I've seen pawlina but not used it myself. It was the thin-ness that made me think it was laminated...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on May 06, 2012, 06:00:50 PM
Hey;

This is my prototype altimeter.  It's not an airplane but it might be useful in one.  It records up to 500 samples of altitude data in one meter increments.    When the start button is pressed it begins recording and after the flight the data can be downloaded to my laptop through the connector tab.  With a 10 mAh cell it weighs 1.3 grams. 

Right now it samples once every second but it'll be adjustable so I can have it sample rapidly at the start of the flight for things like cat gliders or F1B/C/G.  The same controller unit I use for my other timers and doodads can be used to make these adjustments. 

I've been wanting to integrate an altimeter in my FF controllers for a while and this is the first to try some experiments on.  The processor I used is the same I am using in my new controller design so if it works out it will be easy to expand on.

I just finished it and can't wait to give it a go in an airplane.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on May 06, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Sweet!! So when can you go out flying? Next Friday ok?? Weather permitting of course. I am ready with my F1Bs for testing.

B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on May 06, 2012, 07:58:19 PM
Very nice Craig!
That thing is teeny! ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 06, 2012, 08:07:21 PM
Looking forward to what it can tell us. :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on May 06, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
Hey climber, how does you altimeter sense change in altitude?

Just asking because I mess around with larger planes. I know how a regular sized altimeter works. I'm just curious to see how yours works.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on May 06, 2012, 11:41:16 PM
Hey there;

The sensor reads temperature and barometric pressure which can be used to calculate the altitude above sea level.  The model I used is the Bosch BMP085.  It's pretty cool. 



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on May 07, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
Here's something different . . .

I've eventually got around to finishing my version of John Pools famous 'Never Forget' tailless. 60" wingspan with a cartload of rubber in it. The prop is a different layout to Johns original, but similar PD ratio.
Peter (PeeTee) will be pleased to know that it has a fuse DT because I wanted to keep things simple (as ever)

It took me a while to sort out how to make the DT work to my satisfaction (although the last couple of tailless I built were in very little danger of needing one) ;)

A really enjoyable build (those geodetics change in section along the wingtips)

Toodlepip
Paul



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on May 07, 2012, 11:52:16 AM
DaddyO:  Beyond cool!

I have to ask...given the...minimalist... nature of the ship, what pops or drops?  At first glance, it appears that popping or dropping anything would result in something a lot more dramatic than "dethermalization..."

I also experimented with flying wings many years ago.  Like you, I found little need for dethermalizers


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on May 07, 2012, 12:00:43 PM
Paul, Totally different.  It is strange not seeing a stab on an airplane.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on May 07, 2012, 12:51:56 PM
Glad you like her.

Wordguy - one of the nice things about tailless is the DT. The trailing edge of the wing pops up and they come down like a hawk in a stoop (That's assuming they've got up high enough in the first place) ;)

For those who weren't aware John Pool was THE tailless guy and flew many different styles (inc. a return gear feathering biplane at one stage) :o

Funny you should say that Caley - I always thought what my last one needed was a tail!

Toodlepip
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on May 07, 2012, 02:42:56 PM
NEAT!  Very much like the MUCH smaller "Tailless Terror".


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on May 20, 2012, 04:59:17 AM
I've not posted much lately kinda lost the will too carry on  :-\ but heres what I've been doing
44" blue foam and balsa Lancaster its powered by 4 KP01s running off 3 270mah nicads its being covered in black airspan (iron on polyester covering) as and when I find the enthuseasome to do it  :-\ (any one suffering the weather we are having in the UK at the moment will understand)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on May 20, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
Awesome model Bear...look forward to your progress....

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on May 21, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Awesome model Bear...look forward to your progress....

Tom
Motors are in and wired up and the fuz is now covered in black Airspan


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Wout Moerman on May 21, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
So the will to carry on is back? Good for you!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheDope on May 25, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
With the exception of a few last minute details I'm going to call these two my latest creations. A Frog Wren built from the plan hosted at the houseoffrog.co.uk and a Guillow Lancer which I originally bought for 020 power as detailed in the instructions but I now think an 020 would rip it to bits so went with the rubber version. The Lancer is made from rock hard wood but is not too badly overweight at 30 grams if I include the wheels that are not yet fitted and it appears to balance right off the board (at least without the rubber). The wren was made from scrap balsa but is also surprisingly light considering I didn't monitor the balsa I used at all. It weighs in at 28.3 grams but will need a bit of nose weight to balance. I'm quite pleased. All markings are cut from Esaki tissue.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on May 25, 2012, 10:19:48 AM
Very nice, makes me want to build one of each!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on May 25, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Nice Wren and Lancer!  Put a 7" Peck prop with two loops of 1/8th (1.5x) and leave off the LG.  On 600 turns it'll go up nicely - on 90% turns, it'll go like a rocket!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 25, 2012, 07:32:32 PM
Nice job on both, TheDope. Be sure to give us a flight report when you've done them.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 27, 2012, 04:27:25 PM
All right, one more knocked out from my 'Get 'em done' bunch. A Scientific Skymaster. I've wanted to build one of these since I saw the magazine ads for it back in the sixties. Weight without rubber is 48.5 grams.
I plan to power it with a double loop of 3/16" for a start and see how that goes.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on May 27, 2012, 04:39:30 PM
All right, one more knocked out from my 'Get 'em done' bunch. A Scientific Skymaster. I've wanted to build one of these since I saw the magazine ads for it back in the sixties. Weight without rubber is 48.5 grams.
I plan to power it with a double loop of 3/16" for a start and see how that goes.

I'll be watching this because I saw the same ads way back then.

Very soon I plan to have the Wanderer finished and photo's taken for this exciting group.

Stay in the hunt for the Get 'e  done bunch".


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on May 28, 2012, 10:29:30 AM
Nice one Bargle.I've never seen this one before.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: JPRIZZ on May 28, 2012, 11:20:15 AM
Well, well, well, look who finally has something to post, many thanks to Ratz for keeping me in line! I've kind of given up building for myself and instead I'm having a blast building for my Fetcher-mites. I've had a pretty productive weekend, though some of these I've actually had done for a little while. I got the Sky Bird and the little Sky Ace from the Retro RC guys at the Weak Signals show in Toledo. Nice guys by the way who also have links to this site on their web page! I don't have any flights with the Sky Bird yet as it's been crunched 3 times already by overly excited pilots before ever getting into the air. The little Sky Ace is still being test flown before we commit to the cat launch but it looks pretty good so far. The others are still in the painting & finishing stage. The F-100 shows a pretty good glide already but the F-4 needs a bunch of ironing out. And the little Russian jet is one of the soda straw jets - kind of a novelty thing, pretty hard to get the little thing dialed in so my little guys can launch it without dorking in. My 5yr old just likes zooming through the house with the jets, making jet noises - he could care less about cat launching them actually! The "Owen" is a G-15 hand launch glider by Chuck Wenlock reduced to 12" and modified slightly for Roughneck handling. That and a full size G-15 are actually great fliers and the boys LOVE them!
-Josh


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on May 28, 2012, 12:39:40 PM
Josh, Those are some really nice little airplanes.  Great work on the catty colour scheme.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on May 28, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
Josh,

Great job on the catajets....I understand about the young-uns, my fetchermites love flying the catajets at the park...
You might want to check out the Catajets section here on the Catapult Launched Gliders section: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php/topic,3985.390.html  Check out the previous posts and also the plans in the Builder's Plan Gallery....

Happy Landings,

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 28, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
Thanks, Dave.

Looking forward to your Wanderer, FlyAce.

Nice litter of cats, Josh.   ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on June 06, 2012, 08:33:05 AM
Here are some pics of the Guillows 600 series Cessna.
Since my front yard is my 'flying field', I need a few planes on the shelf that I can grab and fly.
They usually only last one season, and the next season I build another. They get pretty beat up.
As many as I have built, I still have fun doing them.
This one is trimmed and ready. 25 grams AUW.
I can't wait. Those calm summer evenings are almost here :D.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on June 06, 2012, 07:48:39 PM
Tross,

Your Cessna is a beauty....

Many happy landings...

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on June 06, 2012, 07:53:08 PM
Tross,
I agree with Tom. Very nice job on the covering/color choice. I wouldn't have thought it was a GUILLOWS kit!
Is the coloring scheme something you thought up or is it Modeled after a full size aircraft? Either way, it looks great!
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on June 06, 2012, 08:22:29 PM
Hi Tross,

Agree with Tom and Dave, very nice model.  Let us know how it flies.

Also Bear, you Lanc is beautiful.  Any more progress/pics??

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on June 06, 2012, 08:58:53 PM
Thanks guys,

Dave, the color pattern I got from a pic. It's just a waterslide decal printed on inkjet.
Don, I need to re-think the front yard flyer comment ;D
My yard won't hold this one....yet.
These are the flights with a 9 inch loop of 3/16"
The first is 650 winds....too much. For a bit, I thought I was flying outdoor sport.
I jumped up out of my hands in a upward spiral. You'll hear me say "OH Crap"

The second was 525 winds with a little more down thrust. A little better.
I'll add some right thrust later, but for now...This plane is nuts.
Both of these flights are in the 25 second range.

http://youtu.be/QL3hPlK1oss
http://youtu.be/lhRhAImgzF4

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on June 08, 2012, 01:23:21 PM
Hi Tross,

Agree with Tom and Dave, very nice model.  Let us know how it flies.

Also Bear, you Lanc is beautiful.  Any more progress/pics??

Don
Fuz is covered not got passed that yet.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on June 09, 2012, 02:10:27 AM
Peanut Pietenpal I almost finished !  Still needs the Model A engine.  Having a little trouble with the nose block.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on June 09, 2012, 04:04:16 AM
Hi Bear,

Any more pics?  I really like Lancs (and B 17s).

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on June 15, 2012, 10:17:19 PM
Tross and Hillsboro Bob.  Very nice work.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 02, 2012, 10:27:19 PM
This is a peanut Piper 140.
Weight is 9 grams with out rubber.
This is the second design,.... using keel and former type construction.
The first was a 'scratch builder' type design with flat sides, formers top and bottom.

tross


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 02, 2012, 10:35:05 PM
Tony, that is very nicely done.  Please give us a fright report when you can.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 03, 2012, 12:39:40 PM
Thanks Caley.
It seems like I've been working on it forever, and I'm kinda glad it's done.
However, I haven't had much luck flying outdoors with a model that weighs 9 grams w/o rubber.
A low wing at that 8)

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 03, 2012, 12:59:12 PM
Tony, do you have access to an indoor facility?  I would imagine that is more suited to indoors, but you could probably fly it outddoors in perfectly calm conditions, if you ever get that kind of weather.  Anyway, I think the best models take time, and yours came out great.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 03, 2012, 02:05:28 PM
Tony,
Very nice work again. You drew this plan?
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on July 03, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
Another beautiful model Tony.  Is the tissue printed?

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 03, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
Hi Tony, the Cherokee looks great. I think 9g is pretty good for a peanut  :)
Did you post a pic of the first version? I can't remember...

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 03, 2012, 02:24:44 PM
Yes..and yes ;D
The tissue is printed esaki on the shinny side using the draft setting and the glossy setting.
I use a basting spray, which is temporary adhesive used for quilting.
I've had no issues with shrinking with water,colors bleeding. I don't know why.
Dave, this is my second plan of this model.
The first was a flat sided construction that I built and flew as a prototype (no colors).
It flew well.
The thumbnail is a copy of that plan. I need to build it again to finalize and then I will post it.
This version is a keel and former laser cut that I also designed and had cut.
I probably will not post it because I need to keep the few friends I have. :D
It was like building a ship in a bottle. >:(
Caley, I don't have and indoor facility, but the dog days of summer evenings are quite calm here.

Thank you for the kind words.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 03, 2012, 02:29:15 PM
Hey Jon,

No, I didn't post the pics of that one.
It was heavier if you might recall.
I had some issues with a couple of the former widths top and bottom.
And the wing mount was not durable.
I've made the changes, and now need the motivation to re-build to make sure it's okay.



Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 03, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
It still looked cute  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 03, 2012, 03:23:16 PM
Yes, cute.
Here are a couple of pics that might interest you, Jon.
The first design was flat along the sides to help in fitting the 2 piece wing.
The keel and former allowed a more rounded shape and a 1 piece wing.
The fiddlely parts on the bottom are attached to the wing, instead of the fuse.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 03, 2012, 04:17:16 PM
Nicely done. Wing roots are often tricky  :-\


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on July 04, 2012, 10:23:11 AM
Here's my new model to take to the FAC Nats in a week and a half - a 28 inch span Portsmouth Aerocar for rubber power.  Only one was built by Portsmouth Aviation and it first flew in 1947.  Never seen it modelled before, so I had to give it a go.  Proportions look pretty good for free flight, but we'll soon see.  Still a few finishing touches to go - some panel lines and control surfaces, plus the fuselage cheat lines, fuselage skids and wheels (they still stick out a bit when retracted).

I cheated a bit and moved the booms out by half an inch to enable me to just swing a pair of Peck 7 inch props.  Finish is Xtracolour RLM Silver enamel, and the registrations are cut from black-painted decal sheet.

If the weather relents (fat chance) I could get some trimming hops in next week, but failing that I'll have to trim it at Geneseo.  I always end up on the last minute however hard I try!

Mike Stuart


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on July 04, 2012, 10:25:23 AM
Here's another view of the Aerocar


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on July 04, 2012, 10:32:28 AM
Searching diligently for the rear motor peg location :P


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 04, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
Mike, That's absolutely wonderful.  It should do well at the FACS.  Hoping you have lots of fun there.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 04, 2012, 10:54:24 AM
Beautiful Mike! Looks like it will go really well.
Looking forward to your reports from Geneseo, from the UK perspective  :)

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on July 04, 2012, 10:56:51 AM
Mike,

Beautiful job.  Displaying your outstanding building skill perfectly.  Thanks for sharing.

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on July 04, 2012, 11:05:49 AM
Searching diligently for the rear motor peg location :P

You will search in vain - I haven't punched it through yet  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: yagua on July 04, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
Impeccable finish!!  :o Me like it! ;)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 04, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
Very nice Mike.
Good luck and have an uneventful and safe trip to G-Town!
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheDope on July 04, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
Wow Mike! Very nice, I find silver tends to highlight flaws in covering but your model looks pretty much perfect. I am also in awe of that canopy. Their must be something we could learn from you there. It looks very clear and polished. In the plastic scale modelling world they achieve super clear canopies by a combination of plastic buffing polish and finally by dipping them in future floor wax which filled in any remaining imperfections. I really like your model. Hope it does you proud at the FAC nats.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 04, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Incredible as usual...will this one show up on your Website ?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 05, 2012, 11:06:26 AM
Tony, that is very nicely done.  Please give us a fright report when you can.  Caley

It didn't do too bad outside Caley.
I muffed the launch holding the camera, but it recovered.
http://youtu.be/ezXaLbZ1r0k
Still needs work.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on July 05, 2012, 11:17:26 AM
Very nice flight Tony.  Looks great in the air!

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 05, 2012, 11:29:29 AM
Tony, very nice fright. Flight  Never could figure out how some of you can hold, then toss a rubber powered airplane, and get a video at the same time.  I have a hard time just trying to launch an airplane.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on July 05, 2012, 11:34:44 AM
Crash:

Hold the aircraft in your right hand, propeller in your left hand.

Now, with your other right hand...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 05, 2012, 11:44:08 AM
Wirdguy, EXACTLY!  I am trying a new technique, that being taking off my shoes and socks and using my feet.  Problem is that my pictures will probably stink.  I know,  Boooooooo!  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on July 05, 2012, 12:02:04 PM
Be prepared for a sudden drop if you also try to pick up your DT lighter...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on July 05, 2012, 01:33:55 PM
I agree with Caley.  There is no way I can fly and record.  When I tried, I got some great vids of the trees, my feet, the sky etc, but no airplane.  Plus I have no clue where it lands.

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 05, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
Ha,ha, ha.
That's why my videos are never very good.
They leave alot to the imagination. ;D
Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on July 06, 2012, 04:24:27 AM
Incredible as usual...will this one show up on your Website ?

Assuming it flies (fingers crossed) I'll put the plan on the website.  It's drawn up in Autocad but will take a bit of sorting out to get it on a set of useable plan sheets.  Plus there are lots of labels and notes to add, so it's likely to be a month or two.

Mike Stuart


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: whirlwind on July 06, 2012, 01:10:51 PM
Quote
I cheated a bit and moved the booms out by half an inch..

And you got some more horizontal tail area, as well. That's excellent, and looks like it should be that way!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 06, 2012, 07:11:15 PM
These are three models I sent already.

The red one is the Lockheed Orion,from the left you have three shots of the Wanderer, and the last one is a Souper P-30.


Sorry I didn't get it right the first time.  The two endurance models really go but the Orion was damaged at Gainesville,Texas contest recently. Hope to fix it back to flying status shortly after this fall.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 06, 2012, 07:22:10 PM
The Art Horak 'Wanderer' looks great Allen!
Thanks for the pics.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 06, 2012, 07:31:26 PM
So far the Wanderer goes up real great on the Czeck P-30 prop I use. THe wood one was broken when it hit a city street. THe 14 strand motor made from 1/8th Tan Super sport rubber really puts it up ratherquickly. Wing is set at the front limit of the location shown on the plan. Still know many more turns will be put into the process. Length of the motor is about 22 inches.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on July 07, 2012, 09:05:24 AM
Ace, you fly that Wanderer in the 'burbs?  Now THAT's courage!  How big is the L'heed?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 07, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
Allen,
What class/classes does this Model fly in?
Thanks,
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 07, 2012, 01:15:32 PM
Since I compete in Flying Aces events I will enter this in the Old Time Rubber Stick. It is possible I guess for other competitions but I am unaware of what SAM catagory.

This is my first model with two verticle stabilizers so I have been really working to tame this one. A great climb out and not much float when the rubber unwinds it likes to head straight down. The wing is at the most forward location recomended by the designer. I may need more incidence and that will probably help. I have right and downthrust and it doesn't stall in the climb so it will remain where it is . I don't know about adjusting the rudders to make the turn hold the nose up in the glide.

Got any suggestions ? 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 07, 2012, 05:45:24 PM
Allen,
Thanks for the info re: OT Rubber Stick.
When the Rubber unwinds it likes to head straight down? Do you mean a nose dive? Other?
Thanks
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 07, 2012, 06:58:10 PM
yes and the left wing drops a little.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on July 08, 2012, 04:25:27 PM
Just finishing up this one that's been sitting in my box o' bones for about 7 yrs now. It's the 15" span DPCM laser cut kit of the DeHavilland DH-5. I started covering it several years ago with a tissue that has a very pronounced weave to it. Not quite silkspan, but certainly close to it. It's bit heavier than I like.

I'll be taking this to Geneseo next week to see if I can get it into the air.

john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on July 08, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
John,
    Looks great.  I hope to get some pics of my AVRO 504K up shortly. Good luck at Geneseo !

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on July 08, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
A REAL modeler... even his pizza comes in kit form!

Nice work!  Looks like a tricky little beast to align.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on July 13, 2012, 05:06:39 PM
"Hazey"      36"  span, 14" prop,  58 gms (less tracker).     Worked up fom a sketch in a 1939 British club newsletter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 13, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
Very nice Jim.  BTW, in my PM to ya, I goofed about the FAC NATS dates, so disregard my boo-boo.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 13, 2012, 07:30:17 PM
Jim,
Looks great!
Something looks a little different about your prop carving at the hub area. Also, the blades look very thin. I'm guessing you didn't use Balsa. White pine maybe? Or?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on July 13, 2012, 08:21:23 PM
Prop is balsa, Dave.   I didn't have an oddment of pine of suitable length so reverted to a balsa block...  blades are of 'average' thickness for me  for that medium.

As for the hub ... went looked at it, much same as usual i think. it may be that the binding for the Garami cluch makes it look a little more rounded in the photo?

Best to Annie and self - and the Giz


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 13, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
Jim,
Thanks for the clarification.
The photo's are great. My eyes are not.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on July 14, 2012, 10:03:37 AM
Finished up....just in time for Geneseo!   ;D

More photos can be found on my website:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8ljo4/johnsmodels/

john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 14, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Very nice John.
Haven't seen this one Modeled before.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on July 14, 2012, 11:26:40 AM
Very nice John.
Haven't seen this one Modeled before.
Dave

Thanks, dave. It's really a 'pig' of a plane....in a cute way... ;)

john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 14, 2012, 11:32:17 AM
Very nice John.
Haven't seen this one Modeled before.
Dave

Thanks, dave. It's really a 'pig' of a plane....in a cute way... ;)

john

Nah,
Looks great. Have fun at G-Town.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 17, 2012, 02:25:40 PM
Managed to get some work done on my Gecko (from reply #1), still a little way to go but it's starting to look like a plane...

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on July 17, 2012, 03:32:06 PM
That's a neat little one, Jon!  I'd think the LG to be a bit on the heavy side tho ::) ;D...

Pete


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 17, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
Thanks Pete, its specially adapted to land on clothes lines  ;D

Actually I drew it as a trike, then played around with tail-dragger landing gear but it was getting a bit beefy so I decided to give it a new retractable UC and finish it 'wheels up'  ::) It's going to get a rudder at some point too  :o


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 17, 2012, 09:08:48 PM
Fantastic Jon.
And that's a great color.
I've seen builders use that LG to keep the plane from floating away. ;D
I've never had that problem. :D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 18, 2012, 05:20:48 AM
Thanks Tony,

I've seen builders use that LG to keep the plane from floating away. ;D

Don't worry: the canopy performs that function  :-\


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 23, 2012, 03:33:25 PM
I had a plane that finally came down from a very tall tree.
It was up there for a while and needed re-covered.
I thought the re-decorating might bring a smile. ;D
Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 23, 2012, 04:17:51 PM
Way cool Tony.  Perfect!  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 24, 2012, 08:32:56 PM
 ;D  here is my latest Non Flying Mossie NF 30.  This aircraft was the last plane used by RCAF sqn 410 (City of Saint John NB ).  this sept we will be reaffiliating with thios sqn at the site of the ols milledgeville airport now in the north end of the city.  During the last week in Aug we will be celebrating 100 years of flight in the city with an air shoew at the airport and a model display at the EXhibition. I will be giving a demonstration on how to build a model plane (stick and Tissue ) so if you live in Eastern canada or New England  Drop in to introduce yourself  Its not that far away.

http://bing.search.sympatico.ca/?q=city%20of%20saint%20john&mkt=en-ca&setLang=en-CA

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 24, 2012, 08:51:34 PM
Jim,  Hope you have a nice time.  Tis a bit too far for me, so have enough fun for me also.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on July 24, 2012, 09:09:29 PM
Hi Jim,

Agree with Caley:  it sounds like a lot of fun but I'm waaaay to far away (west coast) to attend. 

Nice model.  Any thoughts on adding a bit of rubber and giving it a fly??

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 25, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
 ;D not to this one.  i'm waiting for the rest of the plan to the guillows mossie and the who knows.  see also latest Flying Aces mag last page 8)

Jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 25, 2012, 10:11:45 PM
I built a new propeller for the pink plane.
The prop is pic 1. No biggie. It turned out nice. 8)
The creation is the mold.
Pics 2 thru 4. :)
I hope it's helpful.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 26, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
My latest creation was recyling a Walmart bag into a flying machine.  Flys pretty well.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on July 27, 2012, 02:02:26 AM
Looks cool, Bob. Does Walmart have to pay you a royalty every time you fly it  ;D ?

What glue did you use to stick the plastic to the balsa?


jym6aw6


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 27, 2012, 03:53:20 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D bob
great foam  what is yer source.  I use restaurant dinner plates(BK , McD"s)

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on July 27, 2012, 11:47:34 AM
Does Walmart have to pay you a royalty every time you fly it  ;D ?


Or, could it be the other way around  :-\ ??? ?


jym6aw6



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on July 27, 2012, 04:03:43 PM
This one has been hanging around for some appreciable time, awaiting completion ... now ready.

A  220 sq. in version of the "Creep" for 1/2A Nostalgia Gas.  Cox Medallion .049 with bored venturi and slimmed spraybar ...  with pacifier and tracker the a/u weight is  5.4 ounces


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 27, 2012, 07:28:18 PM
Jim, That's a neato model.  Looks like the ones that go straight up, when I watch the power guys at the Perris field.  Kinda looks like the new E-36 also.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 27, 2012, 08:31:34 PM
I built a new propeller for the pink plane.
The prop is pic 1. No biggie. It turned out nice. 8)
The creation is the mold.
Pics 2 thru 4. :)
I hope it's helpful.What did you use for the mold?

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 28, 2012, 06:45:28 AM
Hey Allen,
It was a litlle trial and error, but it's plaster of paris.
I wasn't sure there would be an interest in it.
If there is, I can start a small thread to show what I have found so far.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 28, 2012, 11:37:42 AM
This one has been hanging around for some appreciable time, awaiting completion ... now ready.

A  220 sq. in version of the "Creep" for 1/2A Nostalgia Gas.  Cox Medallion .049 with bored venturi and slimmed spraybar ...  with pacifier and tracker the a/u weight is  5.4 ounces
Jim,
Very nice little ship there!
Good luck with her at the GGG in September.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 28, 2012, 12:42:47 PM
Looks cool, Bob. Does Walmart have to pay you a royalty every time you fly it  ;D ?

What glue did you use to stick the plastic to the balsa?


jym6aw6

Tried several before I finally got it to stick with a Scotch (3M) Mega Glue Stick.   Unfortunately no royalties from Walmart.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flyfac on July 28, 2012, 04:00:44 PM
While not exactly new, this did fly for the first time last week at the FAC Nats.  Span is 16" and it qualifies for FAC dime scale events.

Initial trim flights showed it needs more vertical fin to offset the floats, but a couple tape tabs later, it was grooving.  A bit of thermal help took it from one end of the Geneseo field to the other. 

Thanks to Dave Andreski for posting plans here on HPA!

Best,

Scot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bredehoft on July 28, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Where's the "like" button?  I wish I would have got to see you fly more, Scot.

--george


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 28, 2012, 07:44:37 PM
Scot,
Your little Taylorcraft Floatplane is a real beauty! Great tissue work and prop carving. Wish I could've been there to share in the excitement.
Thanks for the great photos. I've 'saved' them for reference.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bredehoft on July 29, 2012, 12:37:42 PM
I just finished up another small OT Stick model.  This is the Victory Stick from the January 1943 Flying Aces magazine.  It has a 13.75" span.  Initial tests show tons of potential - too much for my small testing field.

(http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/photos/thumbs/lrg-1437-victorystick02.jpg)

(http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/photos/thumbs/lrg-1436-victorystick01.jpg)

--george


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on July 29, 2012, 01:25:23 PM
Very neat little airplane, George!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 29, 2012, 05:05:13 PM
Great change of pace. WOW Looks great to me. ::) ::) 8) 8) ::)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on July 29, 2012, 05:25:37 PM
Very nice job George!
If anyone else is interested, the plan is available here-
http://www.arts.ualberta.ca/~idesign/apr-02/April2002.html
It will need resizing.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on July 29, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
Beautiful George....

I've gotta try something like that soon. 

Thanks Dave for the link...

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 29, 2012, 09:25:58 PM
George, I agree with everyone, nice model.  And thanks for the plans/article link. Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on July 30, 2012, 02:35:48 PM
Here's the latest off my board, an AVRO 504K.  At half scale, she has an 18" wingspan with 81.2 sq inches of wing area. The rudder is laminated and was enlarged slightly. The ship is covered in Hallmark domestic tissue. All markings were printed on 16# vellum and attached using 3m spray adhesive. Fuselage is box and former with 1/16 x 1/32 top & side stringers. It's intended to use 2 loops of 1/8 rubber but I only have one installed at present. Currently AUW is 24g.  I was thinking of doing the rigging but have had second thoughts after seeing what a nightmare it would be. Anyway, here it is.....

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on July 30, 2012, 03:49:58 PM
The ship is covered in Hallmark domestic tissue.


It looks very good, especially the white. Seems to have more opacity than real Japanese white tissue which doesn't look white at all, more of a translucent dead jellyfish grey  :( ....IMHO, of course  :) .





Quote
I was thinking of doing the rigging but have had second thoughts after seeing what a nightmare it would be.

+1, not to mention the enormous amount of drag that rigging adds to a flying model  :( .

I very much admire those builders who patiently rig their models in a realistic fashion. Certainly adds well-deserved scale points and IIRC FAC requires rigging on all WW1 models.

To quote a HPA member (and he knows who he is), "It looks good from thirty feet or so...". My sentiments exactly. Airborne and at thirty feet away, rigging simply disappears in the eyes of most observers  :) .


jym6aw6




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 30, 2012, 09:14:05 PM
Nice Tom. :)
Maybe one day you'll put the rigging on.
Looks great either way!

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on July 31, 2012, 01:55:07 AM
Skyraider, very nice bird you built. The nose looks very short... Do you need a lot of down thrust?
Any flights yet?

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on July 31, 2012, 07:41:12 AM
Quote
Nice Tom.

Sorry Dave.
Nice

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on July 31, 2012, 07:45:06 AM
Beautiful work, Dave.  ;) I'm anxious to hear some flight reports.
john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mooney on July 31, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
Looks Killer!  Hope it flies great.
Moon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on August 01, 2012, 02:41:49 PM
Just a pic of my latest creation....more in the scale thread below...

Easy Built 17in span Spitfire MkI

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on August 01, 2012, 10:12:24 PM
Mighty nice work there ::) ;) 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on August 02, 2012, 10:09:29 AM
Tom,
  Nice work on the Spitfire!!  I haven't done an Easy Built but now may need to try one. Very well done.

On my Avro 504, yes, it will need some down thrust. I won't know until I start the trimming process.
The long fuselage and short nose makes this model tail heavy and will need about 10-12g of nose weight. But even after that, it will still be under my target weight. I hope to start trimming flights this weekend.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on August 02, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
Skyraider, nice job!  What is the prop dia?  Been wanting to do a 504 in P-nut, but that %^&^$#^& skid limits the size of the prop to something pretty silly in a P-nut,  and in my preliminary CAD sketches, lengthening the LG resulted in a very "stork-like" non-scale look.  I know that late 504s (504N?) had a non-skid LG, but the LG appears to be quite complex  (light but fragile...strong but heavy...). 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on August 02, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Skyraider... your Avro 504 is a beaut...good luck on the trimming...

Thanks Flyace1946...

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on August 02, 2012, 01:02:41 PM
Thanks Tom. Have you had a chance to do any flights on the Spit yet?

Wordguy,
         The prop is a cut down 5" ( now at 4.75" ) to clear the skid. On my plans, I suggest if using a larger prop to cut back the skid to the front legs or at least move the assembly back a little to clear.
But this would put it slightly out of scale appearance. I may have to do this so we'll see what happens on the trimming.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mark Braunlich on August 02, 2012, 01:56:23 PM
Skyraider,
I built a 1/2"=1' Avro 504K back in 1977 for CO2 (I still have it) and had real tail heavy condition as you mention even with a Brown CO2 motor up front.  Had to tape a strip of solder onto the front tip of the skid for flight.




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on August 05, 2012, 02:44:01 PM
Aerographics 18" SE5a in Chilean colours. Silver Esaki covered and Brown B100 CO2 powered.

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on August 06, 2012, 03:59:19 PM
Properly finished now...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 06, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
Great looking model...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on August 09, 2012, 09:13:55 AM
I LUV SE5a's!  Nice one!

Almost off my board (FINALLY) is the T-Tail "RIVETS" in peanut scale.  I started it as my second model for the racer cookup on SFA, and intended to fly primarily indoors.  The weight has crept up to the point that it'll be fine for mixed flying.  There is just a small bit of covering to do, the prop/spinner, canopy and the rest of the markings.  The build is documented here in the Indoor Peanut board.

The GLIDE is something to see...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on August 09, 2012, 09:37:31 AM
Pit:  those FILETS!  Dang, they's purty!  Never been able to do that worth a hoot.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ddelsobral on August 14, 2012, 10:12:10 AM
Hi guys -

Not sure if this is OT, but my latest is a 42" Kerswap, converted to RC and using an electric motor.

Dan


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on September 01, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
36" Towline glider called Sky Rider more detail's here.
http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php/topic,12582.0.html


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 02, 2012, 07:12:48 PM
 ;D  well i've just finished four days of demonstrating model building at the Saint John Exhibition where i built a lysander and did a hurricane at home.

|I also built for display a Harvard ( texan to the Americans) , a Grumman Avenger and a mosquito in squadron 410 colours

i was asked real nicely to build a T-33 for the Flight Simulator Group of NB which I am gonna post here.  This is the Bluebird. there are 4 shots of it.  i will be building two more like it
i posted my AVENGER IN forest PROTECTION COLOURS this is the last of the 12 avengers NB had for fighting fires and it was sold and sent to SHEARWATER ns for repainting in WW2 RCN colours
I POSTED THE MOSSIE WHICH HAS SINCE BEEN DECORATED. it will be part of the Saint John air museum at Milledgeville.
I have two more hurricanes to build which will be done to commemorate the three pilots killed during the Battle of Britain who were from this area.  More on that later.

I also will be doing a Spitfire for a retired air force vet.  when it rains, it pours.

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on September 08, 2012, 08:41:04 AM
FROG "Heron".

Started the build for the FROG "Senior Series" cook-up on SFA some time ago and finished last night (except for gluing the "glass" in) for the "Finish what you've started" C-U.  Weight is 18.6gm (incl "glass") w/o rubber.  The model came out NOSE HEAVY :o, necessitating a lighter Peck prop (6") instead of the IKARA I wanted to use (2 vs. 2.74gm).  I'll be doing the test flights with 4 strands of 3/32nd.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 08, 2012, 12:17:03 PM
Lovely Pit,

Love the lines of this bird.  Good luck with the flights.

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on September 10, 2012, 06:55:07 AM
Thanks Tom.

The wind we've had died down to a reasonable level last night at 11, so I cranked in about 40 hand turns and let it loose from the entrance stoop (the wading pool had been emptied and moved to the corner of the yard).  The model showed a very slight left turn tendency (no bank) and hardly any sink as long as the prop was powered.  When it went into fw, the glide angle DID steepen noticibly, ending the "flight" just short of the wall.  Prolly a bit over-powered and in need of a thrust tweak.

Looks like it might be a good flyer.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 10, 2012, 11:14:31 AM
Here's my latest project... The Baby Bipe from George Wilson...build thread in Indoor section....

Fun little model spurred by the mention of this plane in Flying Models Magazine FreeFlight column... from an old American Aircraft Modeller Magazine plan. 

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on September 10, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
Nicely done! you building has improved so much since you first posted. It is has been a real pleasure to see you develop.

B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 10, 2012, 10:53:39 PM
B,

thanks so much for the compliment.  Means a lot coming from you....

Still learning a lot as I follow along with the various posts here. 

Thanks again,

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on September 11, 2012, 09:15:44 AM
Looks really neat Tom.
I'm anxious to see how it flies.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on September 12, 2012, 01:10:15 AM
I finally got around to working on an airplane.  This time it's my fourth refurbishment of my electrified Peck One Nite 28.  In the end I only actually kept the wing's frame.  Everything else was worn out and needed replacement.  I managed to knock 7.3 grams off of the weight taking it from an even 50 grams to 42.7 including prop, motor and 160 single cell lipo. 

It's using one of my own electronic controllers and dethermalizers.  The D/T drives a Spektrum linear servo which pulls a wire to release the stab.  A spring pulls the tail assembly up 90 degrees.  This was just like the previous incarnation and when it D/T'd the airplane would tumble end over end bringing it down rapidly. 

The covering is 11 g/m^2 Cuben on the bottom of the fuselage, the center section of the wing and the bottom of the stab.  The rest of the fuselage is covered with Risteen Microlite and the stab/fin is covered with 2.2 g/m^2 aluminized mylar.  I added strips of Japanese tissue to reinforce it.   The tips of the stab and fin are painted with flouerescent orange spray paint to help me spot it in the grass.  The top of the wing is 2 micron mylar laminated with pieces of Japanese tissue put on with Future floor polish. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on September 12, 2012, 06:37:34 AM
Craig, I love it.  As usual, you have done a great job putting on a different, and I think very nice covering job.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on September 12, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
I think your wing just hurt my eyes Craig.... ;D 8)

Tmat
-very nice!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on September 12, 2012, 10:51:06 AM
Should do an F1B wing like that  ;D
B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on September 12, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
Should do an F1B wing like that  ;D
B
Team membership can be revoked you know....... ;) ;D

Tmat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on September 12, 2012, 01:11:37 PM
Well, I just happen to have some swanky new F1G wings here that might get the treatment if I find the airplane comes underweight by a gram or two.  I have to be careful, though.  Our airplanes occasionally draw the attention of a local bird of prey.  I'd hate to have it mistake my wing patterns with something it might find tasty or attractive. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 13, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
Climber....

A little detail of the tissue application on the wing, please.  Are these overlaid, or something else?

Love the look...

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on September 13, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Hey there;

I started with 5cm x 5cm patches of red, yellow and orange Japanese.  I applied these to the wing using Future Floor polish in a random but non-overlapping pattern.  Some of the patches touch but I was careful to make sure that the other edges were not lined up. Some of these patches hung over the edges and were trimmed off. 

I then filled in the rest of the field using custom cut patches of green or blue tissue applied so that no two patches of blue or green touch.  All of the patches touch edge to edge and none are overlaid.  It's as slow and tedious as it sounds. 

The black edging is to act as a border and to help keep the patches in place.  I've found that the tissue can delaminate on the edges if I didn't do a very good job of applying it.  The black tissue is wrapped around to the bottom of the wing.   If I didn't want a black border I'd just use white instead which turns more or less invisible when applied. 

The grain of all of the patches is alinged with the wing's span.  After application I clamped the wing's sections down to my metal building board with little magnets and then ran over the upper surface with a hot (160 - 190 degrees C) iron to melt the Future and "cure" the adhesive.  I hold the iron a mm or two over the surface as the Future will smoke and stick to the iron if it touches. 

Besides curing the Future this last step also "fixes" the shape and helps eliminate warps and ripples on the leading or trailing edges. 

I did the same with the wing's outer panels except I clamped the leading and trailing edges to pieces of square steel tubing where one end of the tubing is raised a little to add some washout.   You can see how I do that here with my Art Chester Goon's wing:

http://members.shaw.ca/ffdude/images/ffgoon004.jpg

Besides resulting in a reasonably strong and puncture/warp resistant finish it also relatively light.  The finished wing weighs a around 14 grams.  I used the original kit wood.  If I rebuilt it with lighter wood I could probably take a gram or two off.



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on September 13, 2012, 02:12:54 PM
Craig, I take it that there is a base of either plastic (mylar) covering, or Esaki tissue.  I definitely like your work.  I am partial to "different" covering schemes from the run of the mill ones of two or three colours.  Maybe I should make one of my Gollywock wings in a similar manner as you.  I just like different.   :)  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on September 13, 2012, 02:46:38 PM
Hi Caley;

Yes, the base is mylar.  In this case 2 micron clear mylar which I bought from homefly.com.  I stick it to the wing with Sig Stix-it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 13, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
Thanks Climber for the info....great stuff....wow :o time involved. ;D ;) 8)  Love it 8)


Here's the finished pics of the Baby Bipes,  P6e scheme the misprinted plan at 11 inches and the F11c at the proper size...both fun models now to get them flying. As soon as the thunderstorms stop and the ground dries up a bit.


Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on September 13, 2012, 08:21:00 PM


 The base is mylar.  In this case 2 micron clear mylar which I bought from homefly.com.  I stick it to the wing with Sig Stix-it.
Craig,
Any tips on how you 'handle' the 2 micron Mylar as you go about covering your structures would sure be appreciated.
I've only tried 5 micron/ 1/4 mil stuff and had some 'handling' issues.

TIA

Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 14, 2012, 12:43:43 PM
 ;D   I am working on a commission.. A Spitfire V.  I shall be doing it in John Gillespie Magee's markings  VZ H Sqn 412 RCAF.  Photos when I Finish

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Wout Moerman on September 14, 2012, 01:03:34 PM
Craig

I never heard about curing future with an iron. You do  that while the future is still wet, dry or almost dry? I love the result!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on September 14, 2012, 01:41:25 PM
Hi Dave!

What I do is the following:

I moved the mylar to a roll formally used to hold gift wrapping and I keep a humungeous self-healing mat out permanently at my "film cutting station."  It makes it easy to unroll and cut.  I make sure the basement is clean and vacuumed before starting as lint and dust are sucked on to the film from meters across the room by static electricity.  Having a cat (and her loose hair) doesn't help.   Fortunately, she's adorable so I am willing to cope with it.

I use No 11 x-acto blades to cut it.  I keep a super-fine grit diamond hone nearby to touch up the blade each time.  If the knife is not super-sharp it can tear the film.  If I get frustrated I plop a piece of scrap paper over the film and cut through that. 

I make sure the film is a good 4-5 cm long and wider at each edge so I can hold it.   When transferring the film to the model I work over another green cutting mat.  I lay the film down and blow on it to flatten it out.  I make sure the frame is completely dry and not tacky.   If it's tacky the temporary adhesion might be stronger than the film and you can end up tearing it.  This can be the most annoying thing so I am careful to avoid it.

I always do the bottom first.  If the surface is thin and flat like a fin or a stab I place the structure down, then the film and then clamp down the corners and edges with weights or magnets.   I use the 21st Century covering iron since I like its temperature control.  I set it to 100 degrees C. 

I go over the structure with the iron to tack it down and then carefully go over the edges to finish it off. 

When working with a curved structure I usually tack it down at one corner, tack the opposite corner while pulling on it, then do the other corners and glue down the corners that tighten the largest area.  I always apply stix-it to the ribs and spars but don't apply heat there until the very, very end. 

Corners on wings are the hardest, especially at dihedral breaks.  To deal with that I cheat.  I install a balsa fillet and then carefully sand it to a nice gentle curve.  I like to use the Permagrit sanding sticks.  I make sure the fillet is even with both the top and bottom.  Sharp corners are very hard to cover wrinkle free. 

I wrap edges all the way around to the other side and overlap it 2 mm or 3 if I can.  Leaving an edge of the film at a corner like on a trailing edge is asking for trouble. Before I do the other side I have to apply another bit of Stix-it to the edges that now have film on them.

For highly cambered bottoms and thin ribs I may apply a bead of thin CA here and there to firmly fix it just in case.  It's a bear to fix if it detaches. 

When working with film I like to pull out wrinkles by softening the Stix-it with the iron and pulling.  However, 2 um mylar doesn't like that.  If I do a corner badly I may cut out that bay, apply some Stix-it and redo it. 

To shrink I dial the iron to 200 degrees C and go over the structure, bottom first, to shrink it.  I am careful to avoid going right to the edges as it can make the Stix-it bubble.   2 um shrinks beautifully.  It adds virtually nothing to the structural strength, though, so it's best used in place where it can be reinforced or the structure doesn't need help. 

2 um aluminized is much the same except the aluminized size (the duller side) does not stick as well.  I try and apply the plastic side to the Stix-it.  It does not shrink that much so the larger wrinkles are very hard to get out. 

My greatest leap in thin mylar handling skills came when I was trying to do the same thing with Ultrafilm and OS-film for a peanut.  Wow.  After than 2 um feels like working with canvas. 

2 um mylar with tissue is quite strong.  I used it on my Gollywock and Senator wings and they are holding up wonderfully.  I also used it on my first Senator fuselage but after watching the fuse wrinkle and twist while holding a 30 gram, 12 strand motor wound to 1000 turns I got to thinking that might be its limit.  My second Senator used 5 um mylar instead. 

Hey Wout;

I cure the Future when it is completely dry.  I conducted a series of very diabolical tests to determine the most efficient method (for me) to prevent delamination and "heat curing" seemed to be the best.   And thanks!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 14, 2012, 03:25:24 PM
Climber,

Outstanding information...thanks for sharing 8)

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 19, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
here are my commemoration Hurricane and Spitfire.  The Spit commemorates J G Magee author of High Flight and the Hurricane Hammy Hamilton a NB pilot killed in the Battle of Britain.
JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 19, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
SWEET 8)

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on September 19, 2012, 12:13:16 PM
Good goin' there Jim!
Get out and fly 'em now.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 19, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
 ;D  these are commissioned display models. one is for a nice old lady who is retired air force and the other is for the flight museum at Milledgeville.  two more hurricanes are destined there as well as a lysander.  i will build a hurricane for flight later on after my commissioned work is done .

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on September 20, 2012, 11:43:19 AM
A fitting salute for two brave men.

Well done, Jim! Thanks for sharing  :)

Check your PM


jym6aw6


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on September 21, 2012, 07:07:22 AM
Nice models Jim!

My two-years-in-the-making pistachio is ready for flight testing.  Initial hops will be outdoors (indoor venue not yet available) - maybe today.

Pete


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rewinged on September 21, 2012, 01:03:16 PM
These are all models of which I am envious.  Great work!  Pete, I've become a pretty good builder--with larger sizes.  I think I can build a peanut, but I wouldn't even attempt a pistachio yet.  That looks great!  Hope you have some dead calm to see what it will do.

--Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 21, 2012, 01:10:12 PM
Great job Pete,

She's a beauty...Good luck on the trimming and flying.

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on September 21, 2012, 01:10:50 PM
Looks good Pete!
You're pretty brave to build a Biplane as your first Pistachio.
Dave Andreski


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on September 30, 2012, 11:02:35 AM
Part way through AeroGraphics Moth Minor 24" span


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SteveSw on October 10, 2012, 06:00:44 PM
Praying for snow!

Well, actually, I hate the stuff but I think it would make a nice backdrop for my latest build. It’s a Skylake Sopwith Triplane, not one of the newer laser cut kits but one of the older router cut variety.  Built pretty much stock but wanting something a bit different for my first of the building season, I decided to put her on skis.
 
I like to primarily build scale and when possible I like to emulate an actual plane. I feel it just adds to the enjoyment of the build although it can be frustrating at times.

She’s in the colors of N5486, a Tripehound sent to Russia for evaluation during WW1. From what I have read, the red stars were added over the roundels during the Russian Revolution of late 1917. Don’t think she ever saw combat but I added the MG anyway as any self respecting Sopwith should have one.  I used preshrunk tissue and dope and airbrushed on the national markings using stencils and Tamiya paints. The “N” number was printed on decal paper with the factory tailfin markings printed directly on tissue. All in all, a very easy build from a nicely thought out short kit. Backyard glide tests so far are very encouraging. Can't wait to get her to the field. Hopefully before it snows! :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/SteveSw/Free%20Flight%20Models/DSC05464a.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/SteveSw/Free%20Flight%20Models/DSC05474a.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/SteveSw/Free%20Flight%20Models/sopwith-triplane-ws22p19.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on October 10, 2012, 06:09:54 PM
Steve, Wonderful work.  I hope you get a chance to get it in the air before the icky stuff starts.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on October 10, 2012, 06:13:19 PM
Very nice! Love the aluminium cowling: how did you do it?

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on October 10, 2012, 06:21:22 PM
Very nice work Steve  :)

The DPC Sopwith Triplane is one of the many builds I have on the go ... inspired by this to get a move on!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SteveSw on October 10, 2012, 08:10:23 PM
Thanks for the kind words fellas,

For side panels and or upper decking I use vellum paper (lighter than card stock and more translucent that copy paper) and then I give them a coat of water thin CA to seal and strengthen. The engine cowl is also given a coat of CA and then wet sanded with some 220 wet or dry sandpaper to help the highs meet the lows. The more times you repeat the process, the smoother it will become. For a plane such as a WW1 type, I don’t worry about a little extra weight up front for the obvious reasons. But some extra effort in sanding can keep the amount of coats and the weight to a minimum if desired.

For metal finishes, I like to airbrush on a coat of Model Master Non Buffing Metalizer Paint. In this case, Aluminum in color. It’s lacquer based, much lighter than even a thin coat of dope, and covers in one coat and blends easily so repairs disappear. It’s also a great substitute for replacing that pesky silver tissue I’ve have lost sleep over. Comes in different metallic colors if you want to make adjacent panels a bit different or you could just add a drop or two of black or white lacquer paint. One trick I use is that after the plane is complete, hold it at a arms distance and give it a really thin of Clear Krylon not trying to even get complete coverage. It will give all the different types and colors of paint the same amount of sheen, blending them together giving a much better scale and realistic looking finish.   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on October 11, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
A very nice clean build Steve.

Are you building the cowl on a jig or form.... then installing it on the model,
or are you executing the CA/220 grit process in-place?

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SteveSw on October 11, 2012, 05:18:25 PM
Hey Tony,
The cowl is pretty much the last thing I build so that it mates up with the fuselage properly. Yes, I like to build and finish them seperate. Just easier that way. I just keep checking as I go along. I like my cowls to be removable so I can hide any balancing clay inside the fuselage also giving me better access when disaster happens and I wind up with that mangled ball of rubber in the rear. Which happens all too often.  :D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flyfac on October 11, 2012, 10:04:56 PM
Hopefully before it snows! :D

You're set either way! 

Lovely build in a seldom seen scheme.

Scot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Marco on November 25, 2012, 11:32:23 AM
hello to everyone - it has been a while since my last build. This time I got a request from my usual customer, to have a glider. I opted for the Frog Wren, because it looked simple and, in particular, strong enough to withstand the usual kind of abuses that a 7 yrs old kid can  inflict. So, nothing really worth  a dedicated build thread. However I liked the way the plane came out. Yes, it is not really 'lightweight construction' but this made the build quite relaxing - it is the first time that I complete a model without having to repair broken stringers. It survived quite well the trimming flights, done in cooperation with my 'customer' (it did not require any real trimming, just reducing a bit the nose weight) and the first flights look good. As soon as the weather dries a bit we will try some real launch - Let's see if my customer can run fast enough to tow it....


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on November 25, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
Way to go Marco.  Looks like one happy youngster.  And I am sure he will be able to zoom fast to get it flying.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on November 26, 2012, 01:21:29 AM
Hi Marco
Looks like fun.  ;D  Whats happened to your CAT!  ::)
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Marco on November 26, 2012, 03:39:08 PM
Caley,
your replies are always very kind.
Dave,
after having destroyed the Born Loser and the bones of MC200 the horrible beast looks satisfied, for the time being - but I know it is just a trick to get me with the guard down and strike again. I ring fenced the work place while building the Wren. Now I must find some courage to start building again the Saetta, at least the engine cowling survived. BTW, your Beaufort is great, you always choose very interesting subjects !


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on November 26, 2012, 10:32:47 PM

after having destroyed the Born Loser and the bones of MC200 the horrible beast looks satisfied, for the time being - but I know it is just a trick to get me with the guard down and strike again.


Marco, I also used to have trouble with my cat jumping up on the building table and destroying model assemblies, etc. Learned a trick to stop all that, maybe you'll find it useful.

Get some sticky tape - any kind will work - and tear off about 30 pieces, each about about 60mm long. Take one piece and bend it into a loop, connecting both ends with the sticky side out. Do the same with all the other pieces.

When you are ready to leave your work area, stick the tape loops all over the places where there is  modeling activity - on the plan, edges and corners of table....wherever the cat likes to go or lie down in your modeling space, put down a tape loop.

CATS DON'T LIKE TO WALK, SIT, OR LIE DOWN ON STICKY TAPE!  ;). After they walk on it and it sticks to their feet or fur a few times, they will avoid the area and find a different place to go. You shouldn't have to do this more than once or twice before the cat "gets it"  ;D .

You can reuse the tape loops several times until you are sure that kitty has learned his lesson.

Hope this helps  :) !


Jim (6aw6)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on November 30, 2012, 01:11:19 AM
Hi there;

I've been still working hard on electronic dethermalizers (some day I'll have to build an airplane) and I have enough of the hardware done to know what it looks like. 

In this case it's for an advanced F1G ship that TMAT designed.  I've got all the bits; I just need time to put it together.  I wanted to the EDT done first so I can make sure the other bits are compatible. 

This particular unit incorporates all of the doodads that I've been trying to put into an EDT.  Four release levers for DPR, stab and other functions, a dual 300 lumen LED strobe (the clear thing on the lower left; there's a daughter board for the other side of the pylon), a 92 DBA buzzer which is painfully loud for providing feedback to the user and to possibly aid in the recovery, a meter resolution altimeter that can record up to 1000 data points per flight, RDT and tracker beacon. 

Underneath are mount points for a servo, connector for a battery and connectors for a Bauer RDT in case the transceiver I chose turns out to be unsuitable. 

It measures 72 x 22 mm and weighs about 11 grams with 50 mAh battery, transceiver, servo and strobe daughter card.  The blue thing on the right is the start switch. 

It's meant to be installed flush with the surface of the pylon.  This is a test installation using 1/64 plywood to test the fit and mounting points.  Since the front plate is also the circuit board it's my plan to use that to reduce the total installation weight since it replaces an equal amount of the pylon's side. 

I still have a lot of work to do.  The firmware for the transceiver and tracker needs much more development but the other bits (altimeter, strobe, buzzer, servo control) are all working.   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on January 26, 2013, 07:30:01 PM
I am interested in the vultee xp-54 swoose goose. It looks ideal for a small RC model, but initially I am considering building it as a peanut stick & tissue. There is a plan in the download section for an 18" model. I turned out a test glider (13") of sheet styrofoam (egg cartons) with a 3D fuselage to increase drag more representative of the actual model. Including nose weight, it turned out at 7 gm. Glide ratio turned out between 2:1 and 2.5:1 from a height of about 15ft. In order to save weight, I would fly it in gear-retracted mode. Tests showed that an increase in dihedral over that shown in the plans would help directional stability.
  Pics of the glider before testing:


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on January 27, 2013, 01:52:03 PM
A bulky heavy weirdo from 1943 that was claimed to do 3 minutes on moderate turns.  Yeah .. right.

But the moments are good, decent multispar airfoil, 16" f/w  ... but stab a little small.  Maybe it does at least fly.

Will be finished sometime when I have an urge to get back to it


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on January 28, 2013, 05:41:16 PM
Very interesting Jim.
U/C looks intersting also.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on February 05, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
A loose mockup of the odd bird - fins are pinned on, etc.      Still have to find a nice piece of clear pine for a prop and then make the  shaft assembly, etc.  A number of small details and a lot of sanding, yet.

No lightweight with all this surplus timber     'As is' about 1.5 ounces.  Under the surface lies what could be a decent model for 1943 - if not swamped in formers, stringers and planking that serves little purpose


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 05, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
Jim, It is a bit strange looking.  I wonder why there is sheeting on the outer parts of the stab?  For strength?  Anyway, it looks nicely built, and I bet you'll get it flying, and knowing you, lose it.   :o  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on February 05, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
Hey Jim;

Looking good so far!

Is Odd Bird the name of the plan?  I kinda like the way it looks.

Craig


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on February 05, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
No, Craig - just the way I refer to it.

It's actual title is  " R.L.B.4"  - the initials of the designer, though I suspect he had more than three models preceding this.

Caley, I just built it as per plan.  As for flying capabilities .. I haven't yet decided whether to build in a receptacle for a tracker 'bug' in case I'm expecting too much from the thing.  Haven't considered a D/T attachment as yet, either.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on February 13, 2013, 08:07:18 PM
I am working on a change in design for the Vultee xp-54 Swoose Goose as a peanut scale. I am using the Earl Stahl plans for ideas and the 1943 drawings by W. Wylam for scale outlines (available here: http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=3504
vultee_xp-54.gif (http://smm.solidmodelmemories.net/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=3504
vultee_xp-54.gif)). I have only designed and built the wing so far, because I love doing wings. The landing gear is removeable. I will remove the center rib structure before installing in the fuselage. My worktable is a TV tray in the living room, so I can work while the wife watches the telly. Here are some pics of my current progress. More design to be done on the tail feathers and fuselage before I get any further in construction.
Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 13, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Ian, That wing looks awesome.  My hat off to you to both design and build such an interesting model.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on March 22, 2013, 01:07:18 AM
I have been meaning to build a small open rubber model for some time, and here it is - 36" span (flat), and 20 grams rubber.
The prop is 17x23, and the blades were on the last coupe I built, before I replaced them with a 18.5 x 23.
This model is currently configured to use 8 strands of 3mm rubber, but I suspect that might be a bit weak - we'll see, I guess.
The barometer is set fair for the weekend, so you never know, it might get an airing soon!

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Scottl0413 on March 22, 2013, 09:54:57 AM
John, very niceeeee! Love the lines, should be a real performer and very visible in the sky.

Scott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 24, 2013, 04:08:23 PM
Nice and sunny today, but much to windy (and COLD!) to do anything - except...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 24, 2013, 06:35:22 PM
Woo-Hoo!  Pete  Sure looks like a KK Senator to me.  Lookin' good kiddo.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 25, 2013, 07:55:44 AM
Jackpot, Caley!
I've managed to burn myself out trying to get too many scale types done, so I'm taking a "rest break" to play with some indoor lightweights and outdoor  "Sport/Competition" types.  I figured it was time to get off my duff with the Senator - been procrastinating enough with it.

The NOS "One-Design League" was (is) a major booster.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: mike j on March 25, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
Hi all, I had been bitten by a jet bug. Well here's what I have been up to the past week, but other stuff on the back burner for a bit. The Dassault Super Etendard, a work in progress  ::)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 27, 2013, 08:10:33 AM
COOL, Mike!  What are you planning to power it with?

Got a bit more done on my SENATOR.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: John Boy Paddy on March 27, 2013, 08:51:02 AM
Nice Senator Pit, are you fitting a DT? My friends Senator flew off last year and is currently on it's second orbit of the planet  ;D

Here's my West Wings Piper Cub, all 30" of her. I started it way back in 2003, so I think it's time to finish it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 27, 2013, 01:07:18 PM
Thanks, John Boy Paddy ;)!
Pop-up wing via Tomy-timer (thanks to PeeTee).  My playpen is kinda cramped with a well traveled rural highway only 150 meters to the West and the prevailing winds from the East.  I'll be lucky to have a day when the breeze/drift is from the North - then I can set the timer for two minutes.

Bent up an applehoney LG for the beast, but I made one bend a bit to short so that the rubber band retainer had to be routed differently.  The 1,2mm (18SWG) wire that I had went on vacation so I used 1mm (19SWG).  Still works fine.

Pete



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: mike j on March 27, 2013, 01:27:03 PM
thanks pit, i had hoped for a rapier application. I guess i will search. edf would be another i supose. there are so many awsome jets to be reproduced. i've been building from 3-views, have a Buccaneer waiting as well SU-25 frogfoot,mig 27, t-38. the list goes on.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on March 27, 2013, 06:36:28 PM
Very nice Gentlemen.  The way the models are looking, I can only imagine there are airplane noises being made right now.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on March 28, 2013, 06:53:55 PM
Reference reply #410.

John,

Your new rubber job looks to tick all of the boxes for high performance.  I can’t see if it has an underfin but if it has I think that J O’D would be proud to call it one of his own!

You mention using 20 g of rubber in 8 strands of 1/8th (well actually you said 3mm!) and wondered if that would be underpowered.  I can’t resist messing with propeller calculation and I reckon that would give something like a 3 minute motor run.  That sounds a lot but the motor is 30 inches long.  You mention that you used the propeller on a coupe.  I wonder if that was on 10 g in 10 strands with about a one minute motor run or if you steamed up, on 12 strands, nearly vertical, for about 40 seconds.

I should be interested to know the wing chord, the propeller chord at three quarter radius, and, of course, the airframe weight.  Anyway you set it up it looks like a performer and I hope you can find a field big enough to hold it.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: mike j on March 29, 2013, 11:48:26 AM
hey pb guy like your build very neat. post some more ideas as well.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 31, 2013, 05:41:02 PM
Thanks Mike. Unfortunately, I have been away from home since mid-february covering domestic emergencies and might not be able to get back to building for yet another month. I completed my preliminary plan for the xp-54, but only got the fuselage half built. However, while away, I am working on plans for another really interesting bird, WWI tripe, a bit obscure and it looks like a bear to trim for flight, but we shall persevere there also.
Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on April 04, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
This probably shouldn't be in the 'Newest Creation' thread as I built it in 1995. However, I blew up the fuselage pretty comprehensively several years ago, and have just got round to building a new one (fuselage, that is).
So, here she sits - a Copland Masterplane Vintage Wakefield - a design that was kitted sometime in the 40's I think.
It has a concealed freewheel clutch between the prop and the noseblock, which 'let go' at near full turns to destroy the fuselage. This time it is silver soldered, and I'm going to back the strandage off a bit - I was running 16 strands of 3/16" tan, which gave quite the climb, so I will be going down to 12 strands (or the equivalent, as I now use nearly all 1/8").
Anyway, a nice looking plane, I've long thought, and a bit less daunting to build than the fully streamlined Coplands.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 04, 2013, 04:54:26 PM
Very nice indeed, John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 04, 2013, 04:57:41 PM
My 1943 oddity  - R.L.B.4  -  still stumbles slowly along, steadly gaining weight all the way


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 04, 2013, 07:08:36 PM
Your oddity has a lot of charm Jim. Very distinctive shape and thats a very neat looking prop.
The Copeland also looks interesting John - the period seems to have produced many good looking models. It must be fun to fly on all that rubber.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: gossie on April 04, 2013, 07:19:28 PM
Both very good looking rubber jobs.    :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 04, 2013, 07:21:30 PM
DITTO on OZPAF's remarks.  I think both are "Way Kewl!"  I know, those two words are out of date, but what the heck, I am out of date too.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on April 05, 2013, 07:00:50 PM
That is NICE, Jim!
I love the fuselage and especially the tail, with the dihedral and the tip fins - reminds me of a Bill Dean model, but I can't think of the name.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on April 05, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
Jim
That build of yours brings back memories.  I think it was in an early 1940s AM, possibly 1942 or 1943?  I thought it attractive at the time and I still do, despite the redundant lumber.

And Glidermaster John, I think the Bill Dean model you are thinking of is perhaps the WAD20, they both have a similar 'sit'. (BTW did you see my query in post #421 regarding your new 36" Open Rubber job?)

John-Hepcat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 05, 2013, 11:25:07 PM
1943, John.   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on April 06, 2013, 02:23:10 PM
Hi John (Hepcat) - I am afraid I overlooked your queries in #421 about the 36" open model, and I am away from my models just now.

I will fill in the blanks tomorrow.
best
John (Glidermaster)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 07, 2013, 01:34:34 AM
Hi
At the upcoming Scale Masters on May 18th _ 19th I've asked flyers to bring along there Vic Smeed Models as a tribute to his passing, while I have a couple of Vics designs I decided to build something new. I chose the 36" towline Glider "Meteorite", this beginners model is from the 70's an I found the plan on OuterZone, What a joy to build this simple model. I used the opportunity to try my hand at Tissue over Mylar, while it turned out OK I'm still not sure if its worth the extra trouble. Only changes I made was a D/T on the tail plane,  rather than tow the model I decided to use a light bungee. Instead of using an auto rudder I've made up an adjustable offset tow hook that I can use in conjunction with the trim tab on the rudder.
Yesterday that pesky wind died so I quickly made a short bungee so I could test it at my small field, I used a coupe motor (1/8" x 10') and about 40' of fishing line, but by the time I got there it was blowing again, Anyway after a few hand glides and a guess on the hook position I gave it a go. Well it towed dead straight to the top of the line, really stretching the rubber and flew of in a nice turn, after about 45 seconds it had used up most of the field landing at the base of the trees at the far end. Wow this is fun! I tried to shorten the rubber and line but this just turned it into a catapult, pinging off at about 20'. When I get the room I'll try a longer bungee and I'll try to remember to set that D/T.
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on April 08, 2013, 10:54:53 AM
Hi John (Hepcat),
A few details from my small open rubber model;
Wing Chord - 4.5"
Max blade width - 1.57" (@ 6" radius)
Weight - 65gms w/o rubber.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on April 08, 2013, 12:53:52 PM
Glidermaster, I send you an email


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on April 09, 2013, 11:40:39 PM
Dave, Thanks for the link to the Meteorite plan.  I've been wanting to do a towline glider to do something different, and this seems a very easy one to do.  I downloaded the plan and pumped it up to 100 percent, only to find that if youu do that, the size comes out to 48 inch wingspan.  So I reprinted at 66.7 percent to get the 36 inch wingspan.
  I've kind of sputtered on a scale model I am trying to build.  Never really good at scale models, so I may do this to take a break before going back.
  I like the bungee idea.  I've thought about that also, and will give it a try.  I am no longer much of a runner, so bungee is good.   ;D  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 10, 2013, 03:32:27 AM
Hi Caley,
That's interesting about the size, it does say 36" on the header and I just printed it full size and it came out 36" ::)
I know what you mean about not being able to run, don't know what happened but it wasn't a problem 20 or 30 years ago.
I tried to build some indoor models, F1Ls, made up a torque meter, a jig for measuring deflection of spars read all these articles but just couldn't come to grips with it, I think if your hearts not really in it then build just what you like, I like to build scale but sometimes it's just such a pleasure to build something simple and straight from a plan then just pick a color scheme you like and go for it. Will watch with interest.
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: outofbalance on April 10, 2013, 09:06:00 AM
Applehoney,

That prop- so elegant- the director; and the sticks and tissue the symphony. What a beautiful model!

Outofbalance


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 19, 2013, 08:09:04 PM
It's finished!  Finally !!!    It's very rare that I've felt I've been happy to be finished with a build but this one has been a long-prolonged chore, probably because I started it out of curiosity rather than interest and enthusiasm.  It would have been easy to abandon it but that's not my custom.

A portly 77 grams, less tracker, it's already tail heavy and things will be worse when a motor goes into it - so eventual weight with a chunk of lead in the nose is problematical at this time.  I really don't think it will warrant the tracker when it comes to flying - whenever that may be.  Whenever .....



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 19, 2013, 08:29:43 PM
Very nice Jim.
How is it DT'd?
Is the sod farm available for flying?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 20, 2013, 01:06:39 AM
>How is it DT'd?

It isn't, Dave.

I figured it too large and heavy for a tipped wing and the dihredralled stab not easiest to have in a stable trailing edge mount.  If it goes away I doubt I'll lose any tears over it ....  though the prop could be useful elsewhere some day I guess. There is a hatch in the lower fuselage for a tracker but that may or may not get used.

yes, there is a sod farm available - but only been there once in at least two years.  Too small to fly anything in a meaningful manner and usually winds on or off the lake.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 20, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
>How is it DT'd?

It isn't, Dave.

I figured it too large and heavy for a tipped wing and the dihredralled stab not easiest to have in a stable trailing edge mount.  If it goes away I doubt I'll lose any tears over it ....  though the prop could be useful elsewhere some day I guess. There is a hatch in the lower fuselage for a tracker but that may or may not get used.

yes, there is a sod farm available - but only been there once in at least two years.  Too small to fly anything in a meaningful manner and usually winds on or off the lake.


We can be certain that the aircraft has been skillfully constructed and so hope it will surprise you.
Thanks Jim,
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: THB on April 29, 2013, 07:19:01 AM
Hi Caley - I saw Dave's Meteorite and remembered the book I saw it in (Encyclopedia of Model Aircraft) and had to build one too. The Scale Masters event this year includes a Vic Smeed category  - so fits that too. Very recommended. A fun build. Though yet to fly mine. I'll put some DT system in it and maybe have a go tomorrow.   :)
cheers
Tim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 29, 2013, 07:32:43 AM
Hi Tim
Well its not hard to see what you did on the weekend ;D bare bones Friday night and finished model today. Is Hugo keeping you up nights. ;D
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: THB on April 29, 2013, 08:04:25 AM
If my DT system is as regular popping up as baby Hugo then should work well. Now where's that old Seelig...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on June 05, 2013, 12:16:44 AM
Hey;

I've been tinkering with the system I'm using for handling winding tubes.  I've been very happy with it except for the part where I hook the rubber on to the prop.  I currently use an aluminum ring the rubber loops through as an adapter between the rubber and winder/prop.  I use a "T" handle with a hook to hold the rubber ring in the winding tube after winding and to transfer the ring to the prop.  It's awkward and seems to need one more hand than I have.

I like, have and use the dedicated bobbin system for F1B/F1G airplanes use but I wanted a more general system that will work with everything I have from peanuts to Gollywocks and be cheaper and lighter.

So, I created two mods to try and make it easier.  I'll try both the next time I am out flying. 

The first is a modification of the ring itself.  You can see it in the foreground.  The rubber goes through the large hole and the winder/prop hook go through the smaller one.  When I finish winding I pass a wire through the larger hole and install it into the end of the winding tube.  I can then hook the prop on, slide the winding tube into the airplane, insert the rear peg, remove the winding tube and put the noseblock in place.

The second method uses my original aluminum rings but I added some "cheeks" to the end of the winding tube that will hold the ring out so I can hook the prop on.  That's in the background.  I'm hoping (and expecting) this method will work at least as well as the first as all I have to do is modify my winding tubes. 

Both will allow me to hook the prop on while the wound motor is still outside the airplane.  That's one more step that can be performed before the motor gets near the airplane.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: gossie on June 05, 2013, 06:31:01 AM
K&B40 powered FF Open Power model.   Been working slowly on it for six months.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Scottl0413 on June 05, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
Gossie, looks great! What pwr. plant do you have on it? Sq. in.'s? Looks like a real floater.

Scott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: gossie on June 05, 2013, 07:18:14 PM
Hi Scott, it's 700 square inches and weighs 33 ounces.
It has a Series70 K&B40 to drag it up there, on crankcase pressure into hard tank, and flood off to shut it down.
Auto rudder and VIT and of course DT all worked by a Seelig timer.

FWIW the white on the wing is Polyspan, and tips and stab are double covered......Esaki Lite red Jap. tissue, water shrunk with two coats of dope, then red Starspan doped on.......Very strong.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Scottl0413 on June 06, 2013, 08:56:54 AM
Gos, polyspan is good stuff!! I use it on my Nostalgia class modes due to the open wing structure. On my Pwr. models with Geodetic construction I use Ultra Coat light or std. Ultra Coat on the big Stuff. Can't wait to hear about the flights.

Scott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on June 08, 2013, 12:21:14 PM
Just an update on my xp54 peanut. Currently at 4.5gm total. Some days I get as much as an hour to do some work on it. I am covering with domestic tissue, using a junky brother printer on pre-shrunk tissue.
Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on June 12, 2013, 03:09:47 PM
PB_guy, interesting plane... will follow with interest. What plan are you using?

Some progress on my Yak-3. The bones are nearly finished. Some more sanding is needed. Will start chalking the tissue next.
Also plan to reinforce the propeller blades with a coat of glass mat.

Any ideas on how to glue the canopy to the fuse?

Regards Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on June 12, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
There is a discussion on just that topic of gluing canopies; http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=313.0
The plans are my own, using 3-views from MAN and Earl Stahl's plans as a guide to construction techniques. I keep making errors and making mental notes on how to do things better. For instance, I would make a top/bottom crutch, rather than a left/right crutch next time. I had to remove some fuselage structure to get the wing in. The removable landing gear are plugged in to aluminum tubing, but the angles of the tubing is critical to easy removal. I just made some acceptable wing skins, but before applying them, I discovered that I had the right/left wing emblems reversed. Now back to the drawing board. I have more tissue shrinking, and when dry, I will run off the skins the right way around this time. Live and learn, I guess. Without a supplier for rubber powered models on the island, I have to order supplies by mail, which can take 6 weeks to arrive, greatly delaying construction. I am not happy with the current weight of the model, but not overly.

You have a nice light project there. congrats.
Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Maxout on June 14, 2013, 06:56:57 PM
Well it's been a while since I've posted anything worthwhile here. This probably isn't worthwhile either.

I built a fastback version of the Maxout IV just because...it looks like it'll fly just fine...nice floating glide and all. I had to tweak the stab so larger rudders could be installed since that 8" prop warrants a little more yaw control than the 6-7" props I used on these back in the day. No idea of the weight, but power is a loop of 3/16 at the moment, and that seems more than sufficient to keep it going.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 14, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Interesting models Pb, Roman and Maxout. The thin airfoil on the YAK appeals to me Roman.
Thats a challenging build PB and also trimming exercise I would guess.
Nice little sports model Maxout - it should be lively with that prop.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on June 14, 2013, 07:41:38 PM
Well it's been a while since I've posted anything worthwhile here. This probably isn't worthwhile either.

I built a fastback version of the Maxout IV just because...it looks like it'll fly just fine...nice floating glide and all. I had to tweak the stab so larger rudders could be installed since that 8" prop warrants a little more yaw control than the 6-7" props I used on these back in the day. No idea of the weight, but power is a loop of 3/16 at the moment, and that seems more than sufficient to keep it going.
Not sure what you mean by a 'fastback version', but I've always admired this Embryo design from you from 2002?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mark Braunlich on June 15, 2013, 11:27:16 AM
New bones of John Blankenship's simple peanut Hawker Fury (Flying Models, December, 1974) enlarged to 15" but keeping most of the wood the original size.   The forward fuselage upper decking is 1/64 balsa sanded to something less than that.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: IndoorFlyer on June 15, 2013, 01:02:21 PM
That's really a work of art, very tidy work.  Always liked Mr. Blankenship's designs...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Maxout on June 17, 2013, 08:56:13 AM
Not sure what you mean by a 'fastback version', but I've always admired this Embryo design from you from 2002?
Dave

Thanks Dave. The original Maxout was built in early 2002, and by the end of the year I'd drawn up the Maxout IV, which seems to have become the definitive version at this point.

I call it a fastback because in a departure from the rest of the Maxout series, the top of the fuselage is a straight line from the wing TE almost all the way to the stab, like the old "fastback" Cessna 172's from 1956-mid 60's. It allows more room for rubber and makes for a simpler, stronger structure. Alas, it also increases wetted area of the fuse, but I can't tell any difference. What with the wing improvements, I think it glides better than the old ones. :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on June 17, 2013, 09:29:06 AM
After all these years, I finally built a Satellite.  A 226 from a Klarich kit.  This is for One Design at this years' NATS.  A front end shot shows the very very first installation of the new Texas Timers Micro-MAX 2-function timer.  It was designed for .020's so no telling how it will hold up behind a Tee Dee .049.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on June 17, 2013, 09:31:26 AM
OK, I will try again.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on June 17, 2013, 09:32:09 AM
For some reason, only the front end shot will post.  Sorry.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on June 17, 2013, 04:53:44 PM
I don't know what's going on with the other pictures, but the front end shot looks good, Dean - Nice!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on August 06, 2013, 08:33:28 AM
Hi

Just completed my Starleaf Dash 8

it flies very well and has now been completed in the South African SA EXPRESS livery.

will post some pics after the next flight

Penflex


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on August 06, 2013, 08:42:57 AM
Also nearing completion is the Pilatus Porter that due for completion for the scale event in Oudtshoorn RSA end Sept 2013. This is part of a group build for the event.

There should be around 8 Porters for the mass launch on the last day.

The livery for this one is the South Africa Police Porter ZS-NIU

Penflex


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Swarthog on August 06, 2013, 03:35:41 PM
Nice work Pen! Where and when is the event happening? By chance I'm going to be in SA at the end of Sept. in the Johannesburg area.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 06, 2013, 07:09:33 PM
Both look very neat Penn. Good luck with your mass fly of the Porters.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on August 07, 2013, 02:27:21 AM
Great Dash and Porter. Do you fly the Dash 8 indoor?!

I like the Pilatus Porter. Long fuse with plenty of space for the rubber. What plan did you use for the Porter? Hope you will share some photos / infos after the event.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on August 15, 2013, 04:05:44 AM
Here's my latest, Sherman Gillespie's Square Bird. I built this one in a hurry after losing my Navy Flier to Hung, two weeks prior to my club's Gillespie contest. This little bird proved to be a great flier and got the trophy :D.

Here's a link to a short video...

http://youtu.be/TBe_axZQHGo

--Ates


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bulldogger on August 15, 2013, 08:04:10 AM
To dust of my balsa modeling FF chops, I built a Guillows F-6F Hellcat.  I've got a more adventurous build going now in the Outdoor FF Scale section, but this plane was my first kit build in 25 years or so.  It's got some simple lightening tricks, but is mostly stock.  I have been getting modest duration flights out of it using the supplied Guillows blue rubber, but plan to buy some contest or sport rubber before long.  It is covered in Hallmark brand tissue bought from the nearby drugstore, sealed with two light coats of Krylon Acrylic Clear spray paint.  This tissue and sealant has held up surprisingly well, with lots of landings/crashes and only one small repair, which was necessary only recently after dozens of flights.
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo278/TigerAlex/Model%20Airplanes/IMG_0367_zpsbd742aca.jpg) (http://s383.photobucket.com/user/TigerAlex/media/Model%20Airplanes/IMG_0367_zpsbd742aca.jpg.html)

Alex


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on August 15, 2013, 08:08:55 AM
That's a very clean model atesus! ;D
I actually caught your other video of the event last night.
Great flier. Congrats to you. :)

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on August 15, 2013, 09:10:00 AM
Thanks Swarthog.

The event is the Oudtshoorn RC Scale taking place 26 to 29 Sept. I will post some pics of the event and links to events official pics


Thanks rgroener.

we do most of our flying indoors. we have access to a valadrome with a high ceiling. It is the Matt Mooney plan.


Most of our club post their builds on the forum on  http://www.eaze.co.za/  they also have an event at Albertinia over the Easter period.


Mikkie


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on August 24, 2013, 08:10:55 AM
 ;Dhi gang. My latest is an f3d skyknight built from a three view.  lots of cut and try  to fit parts.  the fuselage stringers needed better support and the wing attachments left must to be desired.  it crashed after 3 flights but with a wee bit o weight in the tail it did start to fly. i learned quite a bit and may try again this winter.  see my build thread. " my douglas f3d skyknight build" on stick and tissue .com

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MikeM on August 24, 2013, 02:37:24 PM
Dean,
your Satellite looks great.....glad to see another FF'er that understands what Elliptical planforms do.............(http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1904049&d=1375622457)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on September 05, 2013, 07:24:17 AM
Hmmmm... some rather creditable stuff on here - forgive me if I lower the tone - first my Judge Wakefield - prop is turning but it won't ROG!! And the the Pup by Charlie Newman - now covered with KP01 installed awaiting opportunity for trimming!



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on October 02, 2013, 05:17:40 AM
Hi All,

Some pics of the Dash 8 in flight at Oudtshoorn

Mikkie


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on October 02, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Hmmmm... some rather creditable stuff on here - forgive me if I lower the tone - first my Judge Wakefield - prop is turning but it won't ROG!!
Once upon a time I had a similiar problem with a comet sparky. A friend suggested up elevator and right away that solved the problem. Small adjustments please.

Have a nice day.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Ace Dugan on October 03, 2013, 07:16:32 AM
Here are some pictures of my just (nearly) completed Cherokee Arrow peanut.   It is from the Cherokee 180 plan by Tony Ross in the plans section here at HPA, just left off the landing gear, changed the windows a bit, and added a dorsal fin.  It weighs 7.4 grams and nearly balances, but have not flown it yet.  It does need a few fiddly bits like exhaust stack, vents, etc. before the coming out ball...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bredehoft on October 03, 2013, 08:27:24 AM
very nice Cherokee!

--george


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: wordguy on October 03, 2013, 08:47:05 AM
VERY clean build, Ace.   (And a weight to be proud of)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on October 03, 2013, 09:39:30 AM
Great job ACE!
I also like the prop/spinner combo. The Model looks strong for the weight.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on October 03, 2013, 03:37:22 PM
It's a good looking little plane ACE.
The protype had a sheet fin, 3/16" wide TE made from 11 lb wood and 3 wheels with skirts....and it was in the mid 10's.
So I'm not surprised by the weight. ;D
Very cool! ;D :) ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mooney on October 03, 2013, 08:50:18 PM
A really tidy job.  Hope it flies as good as it looks.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on October 04, 2013, 05:44:41 AM
Very nice Ace. Good to see one of these being built.

Tony - I was going through this thread again: could you tell me what the pink 'fly girl' model is? (Page 13, reply #306)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 04, 2013, 06:15:07 AM
Good effort Ace - very neat.
john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on October 04, 2013, 09:47:27 AM
Quote
Good to see one of these being built.

You and John were both involved and deserve credit. :)
Hopefully, I didn't wear out my welcome on that one. ::)
Many,many thanks. ;D

The FlyGirl was (sadly was) a Guillows FlyBoy that my oldest daughter and I built a few years back.
It is now a pile of toothpicks.


Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on October 08, 2013, 08:07:10 AM
The GEEBEE is done. Will take her out for a test flight at the next meeting.
 
The absence of the undercarriage was intentional. Could not find a suitable method of fixing the undercarriage to the wing without the possibility of breaking upon landing.

SO the GEEBEE will be doing belly landings to start with. If she behave well enough ;) I will add the undercarriage.
 
Need to lose some weight in the nose department. Will do some final sanding on the nosecone to minimise weight in the tail.
 
Regards
 Mikkie


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on October 09, 2013, 05:27:51 AM
Mikkie, great looking Geebee.
I am intersested in hearing how it flies. Or even nicer would be a vid of the beast in flight.
I wanted to build a Beegee myself, but never came arround it...

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on October 09, 2013, 07:03:26 AM
thank you Roman,

Will do my best to do a vid of the GEEBEE to post


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: R1chC84 on October 14, 2013, 06:52:05 AM
here was my last project before the L 3 Defender I am building over on the Scale Outdoor section. Its a Chilton DW1 based on the plans here http://www.ffscale.co.uk/plans7.htm  Came out a bit chubby at 20ish grams but was very happy with the final finish. Unfortunately still waiting for a weather window to flight test


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on October 14, 2013, 07:39:47 AM
Very nice. I have the same model in build at the moment. You don't often see AFSV modelled.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: R1chC84 on October 14, 2013, 07:48:47 AM
Thanks  ;D Spent quite a bit of time on here http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/index.html before deciding which one to do. Its a really cute little plane


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on October 22, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
"Hump ll " from 1941 Aeromodeller  

24" span,  29.2 grams.     Good for Small Fuselage in Oldtimer        


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on October 22, 2013, 08:06:51 PM
Nice one Jim!
How does it differ from the attached pic?
YOUR Model, of course.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on October 22, 2013, 08:46:18 PM
Well....    at least it's on my bench and not buried in a cornfield years ago, which was the fate of the old one.   Main difference is that #1 was built for postals, etc. and so had a wire hub; this has a OT legal wooden hub.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on October 23, 2013, 06:51:06 PM
Thanks Jim,
I hadn't noticed the different hubs. A sure sign of an inexperienced eye.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on October 24, 2013, 02:31:12 PM
I've just finished work on a Sterling Super Cub .  The span is 25 inches which is a 70% full size of the Plan E6.  i built E6 decades ago an its weight was well over a hundred grams.  This model comes in under 40 as I used light wood throughout.  She seems to be right on target.  Short glides in my basement show a good glide.  I'll test it outdoors today or tomorrow to be sure.

Here are Pics.

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Marny on October 24, 2013, 05:37:55 PM
My West Wings Merlin with stripey wings. The tissue was purchased from Tiger which is a knick-knacky type shop from the land of ABBA and IKEA. I have just finished covering my West wings Jade (photo to follow) and their tissue certainly seems a lot more puncture resistant.

I don't know what you guys think but I think the quality of West Wings kits are superb. I feel they have taken up the baton left by Keil Kraft.

Regards

Marny


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on November 03, 2013, 07:20:15 AM
Red Admiral 32" span rubber powered model
Designed by R. S. Brewer
Published in Aero Modeller 1958
I've been building this since the beginning of the year but I lost my mojo and have been too busy with other things but now the weather has turned poo here in the UK I suppose I'D better pull my finger out and finish it  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on November 03, 2013, 08:23:57 AM
I agree with you, Bear!  I've a few of the WW/Pro-Scale series, and the wood is quite good.  The kits are still a bit "heavy", as there is a LOT of wood - some of which can be slimmed down and some eliminated.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on November 03, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Red Admiral 32" span rubber powered model
Designed by R. S. Brewer
Published in Aero Modeller 1958
I've been building this since the beginning of the year but I lost my mojo and have been too busy with other things but now the weather has turned poo here in the UK I suppose I'D better pull my finger out and finish it  ;D

Nice one BEAR!
I like it.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on November 04, 2013, 06:31:38 AM
Finally decided to start with a very long and huge project.
 
I have started to build the Avro Shackleton MR3 with the tail number 1722 (Pelican 22). This is the last Shackleton that is airworthy without a crew.

The biggest problem I have is to keep the weight down. I am looking at around 120 to 150 grams all up weight without motors and prop.

The plan I will using is the one from J M Bodey that he used for a control line model. The plan calls for a 61 inch wingspan. That is a 1.55m wingspan. Most of the fuselage formers and wing air foil parts will have to adapted to ensure that the weight stay down.

I will laminate the fuselage formers from 0.8 x 0.6 x 0.8 (balsa x ply x balsa). The 1.5 balsa on the outside will enable me to cut slots for the 1.5 x 1.5 stringers. 
The main spar will also be laminated as follows 0.8 x 0.6 x 0.8 (balsa x ply x balsa) Additional stringers will be added to the wing to add a bit more strength.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on November 08, 2013, 06:54:34 AM
all parts done.
 
Starting assemble the fuselage.

I have a feeling that the ideal weight estimate was a bit on the low side. It looks closer to 250 grams. not many balsa left to remove to save weight  :-\

The full build is on

http://www.eaze.co.za/index.php/rc-forums/54-free-flight-tips-a-techniques/420-avro-shackleton-mr3-pelican-1722 (http://www.eaze.co.za/index.php/rc-forums/54-free-flight-tips-a-techniques/420-avro-shackleton-mr3-pelican-1722)


But it is sooooooo nice to build. All the parts are big.

Next up is the wings!!
 
Mikkie
 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on November 17, 2013, 01:09:16 AM
Another electronic timer. 

Some of my clubmates have been struggling with dethermalizers so I'm putting something together for them that will cover the bases.  The doodad on the right of the scale is the controller.  Servo won't move to flight position unless controller is attached and timer starts when controller is detached to help make sure no launch occurs without the timer running.  To set the time turn the dial to the desired number of seconds, attach the controller and hit the blue button.  An LED on board flashes to confirm the desired time. 

Runs from a single-cell lipo.  I'm recommending my friends use the E-flite 30 mAh cell meant for the E-flite Vapor micro since they are easy to get and already have a ubiquitous connector.  With that the system weight's around 3.3 grams.  It can sense the battery voltage and refuses to reset servo for flight if the battery is low.  It'll work with an RDT.

Teamed with a 20 mAh cell and a lighter servo like the Falcon Femto the total weight could be brought below 2 grams, not including RDT.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tapio Linkosalo on November 17, 2013, 04:07:00 AM
Servo won't move to flight position unless controller is attached and timer starts when controller is detached to help make sure no launch occurs without the timer running. 

Good thinking!



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: lincoln on November 17, 2013, 06:07:38 PM
If you can get anywhere near as light as 250 grams, it will be a real floater. It will have a span squared loading just barely more than a 23 inch model I have that used to do about a minute in dead air. Yours should be better! Particularly if you turbulate the wing or use turbulator spars. Are those scale airfoils? (23018>23012)
http://aerospace.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html
http://aerospace.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/coord_database.html#N
It's going to be amazing!
all parts done.
 
Starting assemble the fuselage.

I have a feeling that the ideal weight estimate was a bit on the low side. It looks closer to 250 grams. not many balsa left to remove to save weight  :-\

The full build is on

http://www.eaze.co.za/index.php/rc-forums/54-free-flight-tips-a-techniques/420-avro-shackleton-mr3-pelican-1722 (http://www.eaze.co.za/index.php/rc-forums/54-free-flight-tips-a-techniques/420-avro-shackleton-mr3-pelican-1722)


But it is sooooooo nice to build. All the parts are big.

Next up is the wings!!
 
Mikkie
 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on December 18, 2013, 01:32:33 AM
Compliments of the season to all on HPA!!

Just an update on the build of the Avro Shackleton MR3 (Pelican 22)

Some pics of the bones. At the moment the scale is at 98 grams

Mikkie


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on December 18, 2013, 04:35:43 PM
Yoweee, Mikkie! That looks like it could make the flight back to the UK - just don't let it crash in the desert enroute!

Happy Xmas,
Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on December 18, 2013, 04:44:34 PM
It has very nice elegant wings Mikkie. Very nice build.
Merry Christmas to all.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on December 19, 2013, 07:07:04 AM
Hi Mikkie
Your workmanship is superb a real credit ti you and look forward to more progress, Could I make a suggestion, I have a 44" span elect. freeflight Dornier 217 K2 that has a similar construction in the fuse ie just stringers, after a light collision with a post it fell back on the tail with the result shown below. I would suggest you maybe sheet between a couple of stringers from under the wing back to the tail, I know you are conscious of weight but it might prolong its flying career.
regards Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Penflex on December 19, 2013, 07:27:35 AM
Thank you Dave

I am planning to do additional strengthening towards the back of the fuselage.

This is why I like to post on HPA. There are some really wise and experienced  modellers out there that assist with good and solid advise.

Mikkie


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on December 23, 2013, 02:51:36 AM
We had a gift exchange at our church christmas party tonight. We were limited to a cost of $5 max for gifts, but the items could be home crafted, so I built a model. Last year I took 2 weeks to do the 12" Comet Fokker DVII for a gift. This year I did an even faster build of the Piper Vagabond PA-15/17 plan from the plans section of this site - 8 days. The wing plan turned out just over 13". I didn't end up with enough time to do wing struts or LG fairings.
I redesigned the wing with a layout I intend to try in a bostonian design. The spar is a 1/32" inverted T of 6mm depth glued to a 3/32" x 1/32" bottom cap strip. I assumed that the balsa would be stronger in tension than in compression, resulting in a stronger spar under normal loads with this configuration. The leading and trailing wing edges were 1/16" x 1/8" the 'X' bracing was light 1/16" square. Bare wing structure weighed 1.40g. Covered with pre-shrunk $ store tissue it was 2.37g. After 2 coats of thinned dope it was 2.66 g. Finished fuselage at 2.9 gm & tail feathers at .81 gm. I used some rock-hard balsa from an old kit to build the fuselage longerons. It was so hard that I had to soak the balsa in hot water to get a curve in it, and I did the 'nick, break and glue' method to get the minor bends in place. Just a couple of pics of the result here.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on December 23, 2013, 08:45:29 AM
neat idea and nice build, PB_guy.  What was the finished RTF weight?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on December 23, 2013, 04:21:04 PM
Nice work PB. That looks a fairly quick, strong and light way of building a wing.
So who ended up with the present - a young kid or an old one ;D
Merry Christmas
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on December 24, 2013, 01:43:28 AM
I forgot to weigh the finished model  ::) It was 1am Sunday morning and I was just finishing building the box to pack it in. When the ribbon was tied, I did a forehead smack. I had neither weighed it, nor taken a final photo. The photo of the finished model was done at the party. The recipient was a random draw, but it went to a younger adult male. He seemed interested enough in flying it. I am away from home for the holidays, so I don't know how it is flying yet.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on January 05, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
I went flying today with my 7 year old granddaughter in our back yard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95du86V4ai0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95du86V4ai0)
It was a balmy +1C (33F). I wanted to flight test my latest project. This is a scaled-down Baby Biplane. The original design was 12". This one is 8 1/4" w/s. I made some modifications as I went along. I built an I-beam spar for the upper wing and used 1/16" sq cross-bracing for stiffness. I built laminated wingtips for the upper and lower wings. I covered all sides of structures with pre-shrunk $ store tissue finished with 2 coats of thinned dope. I weighed the project as it went along to see where the weight accumulates. Weights are: bare structure/covered with tissue/+2 coats thin dope;
Fuselage: 0.61(w/o lg)/1.36(with lg)/1.46 gram
Upper Wing: 0.65/1.11/1.30 gram
Lower Wing: 0.27/0.65/0.80 gram
Tail Surfaces: 0.26/0.49/0.61 gram
Total: 1.79/3.61/4.17 gram
Assembled with struts, wheels, rubber & prop raised the flying weight to 8.2 grams.
So  it seems that the covering basically doubles the weight of the bare frame and the paint adds 20% more. At least in peanut sized structures.
 The model used a 5" guillows prop, powered by a 6" loop of 3/32 at 400 turns. The maiden flight was 20 seconds and managed to circle our plum tree. Unfortunately, the landing broke loose the upper wing, so the second flight, which my granddaughter made ended up with a hard landing that separated the upper wing, but left no other damage. End of flying today.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on January 05, 2014, 04:30:51 AM
PB Guy,  Way to go kiddo.  Happy to see a young lady getting some exposure to the hobby.  She definitely sounded enthusiastic.  That little bipe looks like it will do very well indoors, once you get things back together.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 05, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
That looked fun - at least your grand daughter thought so.Terrific.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on January 06, 2014, 08:13:56 AM
Just finished this yesterday....

It's a Laird Limousine, but from Dave Stott 16" plans - enlarged to 21" span.

john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on January 06, 2014, 08:24:12 AM
John,  Interesting airplane, and very nice work.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on January 07, 2014, 01:39:43 AM
John, Impressive as always.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on January 07, 2014, 03:58:37 AM
Very nice John, handsome model!

Did the open cockpit airplanes have any provision for when it was rainy? On this one the cockpit is somewhat sheltered by the upper wing but many other passenger planes from that era have cockpits fully exposed to the elements. Just wondering  ???...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on January 07, 2014, 07:57:36 AM
Thanks everyone. I have really enjoyed building these simplified, slightly enlarged 'dime scale' models. For me, the 20"-22" span range is a real sweet spot.  ;)


As for inclement weather flying, I hadn't given it much thought. Maybe if it was raining before take off, the flight was delayed or cancelled? If it began raining during flight, then I bet it became very sloppy inside the cockpit and cabin.

john ernst


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Starduster on January 07, 2014, 09:39:27 AM
Very nice John, handsome model!

Did the open cockpit airplanes have any provision for when it was rainy? On this one the cockpit is somewhat sheltered by the upper wing but many other passenger planes from that era have cockpits fully exposed to the elements. Just wondering  ???...

The airflow over the windscreen deflects most of the rain over the open cockpit. You can actually stay pretty dry even in heavy rain. Same thing in a car with the top down. You don't get wet until you have to stop at a red light!

There are several examples of airplanes that had an enclosed cabin for the passengers and an open cockpit for the crew. Back then, a lot of pilots didn't think that they could fly the airplane very well unless they could "feel the wind in their faces"

1) The Boeing Model 40 "Mail"

2) The de Havilland Fox Moth

3) The Lockheed Orion (Though with this one, the pilot could close the cockpit)



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on February 14, 2014, 11:35:15 AM
Hey;

Here I am with (yet) another electronic dethermalizer.  This time it's my most compex yet, an F1B timer I made for Bernard.  He's competing in California today and I hope they are doing the job.  It follows the Vivchar style mechanical timer mounting layout so it can act as a drop-in replacement.  With a 160 mAh battery and all levers, servo, cables and strobes the whole thing weighs a little over 21 grams. 

The big black thing on the left side is a 92 dB buzzer used to signal the battery status and for the launch.  You press and hold the start switch and it starts sounding to let you you it's ready to launch.  When the switch is released when the model is launched the timing starts.  The switch on the timer is actually for basic configuration.  There's another switch on a cable for the start function.  The config switch is used to make quick adjustments to the D/T time, to test the servo and test the battery.  When testing the battery it beeps.  One beep is 3.7 volts, two beeps is 3.8 volts, etc.

The slot on the bottom is for a special servo wheel.  The release levers (not shown) are mounted on top.  As the wheel turns it releases levers for each of the functions.  This unit can control two servos.  Bernard is planning to move to a new two-servo pylon to control wing incidence as well as the release levers.   

On the other side are all of the electronics and connectors.  It can drive two 1000 lumen strobes to help keep the model in sight plus help locating the model.  When the RDT is activated each strobe will flash once and the buzzer will beep twice.  Oh, and it works with the Ken Bauer RDT.

I've moved all of the configuration management to the computer.  I wrote a little GUI (the second picture) that controls the time and functions.  This version is for driving a single servo.  I'm working on an interface that will manage two.   It's written in Perl/Tk and will work on Macs, Windows and Linux.  Bernard and I bought cheap little notebook computers to take to the field. 

The design includes an altimeter that automatically records the altitude from launch in meters every two seconds.  The graph on the bottom is the altimetry data.  When you return from a test flight you connect the timer to a dongle and hit the "read config from timer" button to retrieve the data.  Height is in meters.   

As I was typing this Bernard emailed me to tell me the timers are working perfectly.  :-)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DerekMc on February 14, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
My restricted tech wakefield before the IKE. I broke the autorudder horn while trimming before the contest. Fixe it but wasn't able to finish trimming due to wind. Initial flights are promising. I'm wearing my 3.5x reading glasses that I use for close up work. My daughter calles them my Nerd glasses!

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n542/derekmc777/airplane%20builds/fd88ac126825aa0a30cb5a5464eb18db_zps37a5d3a9.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 15, 2014, 12:14:49 AM
Looks very neat Derek. Did your daughter mean you can only see nerds with those glasses :D
Climber impressive timer - must really add to the reliability and accuracy when trimming. A built in feedback to performance as well.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on February 24, 2014, 11:53:44 AM
Here is the pilot for the upcoming Pnut build. Total weight .1 gram.
I carved a tiny mold front and back and vac formed him using a very thin film.
Looks like he could use a little less neck tho. ;D :D :) ;D

Tony.

PS. The guns won't have any action....just like the pilot is missing a brain! ::) 8) ;D :D :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 25, 2014, 01:51:22 AM
The brain is there, the eyes are missing ;)
Looks good so far. Will fit nicely into a peanut.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on February 25, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
It's finished!  Finally !!!    It's very rare that I've felt I've been happy to be finished with a build but this one has been a long-prolonged chore, probably because I started it out of curiosity rather than interest and enthusiasm.  It would have been easy to abandon it but that's not my custom.

A portly 77 grams, less tracker, it's already tail heavy and things will be worse when a motor goes into it - so eventual weight with a chunk of lead in the nose is problematical at this time.  I really don't think it will warrant the tracker when it comes to flying - whenever that may be.  Whenever .....



Jim:
Did you ever fly this beast?

I was eyeballing the plan on Outerzone and the comment there was "suggest you checkout applehoney's thread."

Did you post a build thread somewhere?

Regards-
Dave



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: mike j on February 26, 2014, 11:16:38 AM
Hello all, Here is an idea that had been cooking in my head. The Mig 27.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 28, 2014, 12:37:02 AM
Shades of Monique ;D It looks great - rubber pusher Mike?
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on February 28, 2014, 01:33:40 AM
>Did you ever fly this beast?

Sort of.   I tried to trim it and it was an utter dog despite the designer's claims for it.  A heavy landing caused substantial damage to the fuselage and I then scrapped the thing without a moment of remorse.

Not the first time I've resurrected something obscure and regretted it


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 02, 2014, 09:13:39 AM
 ;D :) :D ;D

7.45 grams without rubber.
Takes longer to do the graphic art than it does to build! LOL
Now back to the WW1 stuff..... :D :) ;D :)


Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 02, 2014, 10:35:09 AM
Very sharp Tony!
Your efforts to keep weights low have really paid off.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on March 02, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
Really nice neat job! I do like to see a pilot sometimes, even in a closed cockpit peanut! Instrument panel looks great too.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 02, 2014, 05:29:49 PM
Thanks Pete.
That's the graphic from the CAD underlay in your thread.
I hope your CAD is coming along okay. :)

You're missing a winter for the ages Davey.
Counting down the days until the backyard barbecues begin. ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 02, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
Thanks Pete.
You're missing a winter for the ages Davey.
Counting down the days until the backyard barbecues begin. ;D

Tony

Tony,
I'm from lower Michigan ( Detroit) and have seen plenty of rough winters. I don't miss 'em. Backyard barbeques are almost always a possibility here in Key West.
Temps here are averaging about 78-81 Fahrenheit during the day.
Still...NO place to fly.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 02, 2014, 06:13:28 PM
We're usually just out of the lake effect here, but not this year. >:(
My front yard is a 20 acre field of beans this season! ;D :o
First the hamburgers and hot dogs, then the planes! :) :D ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 02, 2014, 06:19:31 PM
We're usually just out of the lake effect here, but not this year. >:(
My front yard is a 20 acre field of beans this season! ;D :o
First the hamburgers and hot dogs, then the planes! :) :D ;D

Tony
Tony,
A 20 acre field?
What's the address?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 02, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
I own a 30 acre farm.
20 in the front, 10 in the back (mostly woods)
Probably should start flying something bigger....right? ;D
Maybe when I grow up. :D :) ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 02, 2014, 07:00:19 PM
Probably should start flying something bigger....right? ;D
Maybe when I grow up. :D :) ;D

Tony

That all depends on where in Indiana you're located.
Where's your farm?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on March 02, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
Tony,
   Outstanding P-51 and the graphics are awesome. I can relate to the graphics
taking more time to do than the actual build itself. But isn't that part of the fun?
Great job and hope she trims out well for you.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 02, 2014, 09:43:24 PM
It is part of the fun Skyraider....thanks. ;D
It's between Edinburgh and Shelbyville Dave.
Out in the sticks! ;D :)

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 06, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
Veery nice Mustang Tony.You'll have a fleet to fly when back yard barbeque wehaer arrives ;D
You don't really want to grow up do you ;D Being an old kid is more fun :D
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on March 16, 2014, 12:53:42 PM
A couple of us realized we had this kit on the shelf at home, or had one in the hanger already. We decided to bring them to the FAC NATS this year and have an informal, 'non official' mass launch.

This is the Greg Thomas short kit of the Piper Vagabond. 24" span.

Here's my version...

More photos can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42494595@N06/

john ernst


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on March 18, 2014, 03:42:46 PM
Outstanding job, John!  Clean and crisp. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on March 18, 2014, 04:23:06 PM
Lovely work John  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jernst on March 19, 2014, 07:39:35 AM
Thanks, guys.  ;)
john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on March 19, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
I just finished my Vagabond in white and green. Did some first glide tests two days ago. Flies great, had a long nice glide. Just needed a bit of clay in the nose.
The kit-rubber seems to be to small for my Vagabond. It just produced an extended glide with nice taxiing on the grass ;D
The propeller used for the tests will be changed, but I have to carve a bigger one first. The blue kit-prop looks funny to the green plane ::) But the blue prop just fit to the blue regwing :)


The second plane is a modified Redwing I built together with my godchild. Snoopy is ready for some first flight tests, but we will have to wait for some good weather.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: John Boy Paddy on March 20, 2014, 03:28:00 AM
I just finished my Vagabond in white and green. Did some first glide tests two days ago. Flies great, had a long nice glide. Just needed a bit of clay in the nose.
The kit-rubber seems to be to small for my Vagabond. It just produced an extended glide with nice taxiing on the grass ;D
The propeller used for the tests will be changed, but I have to carve a bigger one first. The blue kit-prop looks funny to the green plane ::) But the blue prop just fit to the blue regwing :)


The second plane is a modified Redwing I built together with my godchild. Snoopy is ready for some first flight tests, but we will have to wait for some good weather.

Roman

Lovely trim work on the Vagabond, please tell me how you managed it. I can build but I'm a total philistine when it comes to delicate work. No disrespect to Philistines ...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on March 21, 2014, 02:20:43 PM
Superb job on the Vagabond and Redwing, especially the covering.  Love the laminated prop!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 22, 2014, 01:52:30 AM
Lovely models Roman . The closeups of the Vagabond are very impressive.
A blue striped Redwing ;DTut ;D
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 22, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Kudos to you Roman.
Not only for the super clean build, but the camera work as well.
Excellent work!

Well, I finally broke down and bought the 85mm f/1.8 prime lens for the D40 and so it's no more cell phone camera shots. ::) :P
Bought it used.
It's a little soft wide open, but it lets a ton of light and color in. 8)
The down side would be the tack sharp representation of where I goofed! ;D :D :)

The Mustang got some trimming flights in today with a 18" loop of 3/32".
The tail volume ended up around .61 with a CG around 39% for those that follow that. 8)

These pics show a little bit more of how I got on with the exhaust and wing fillets. :o

Flying season right around the corner! :) :D ;D :D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on March 23, 2014, 05:39:50 AM
thanks all...

John Boy Paddy, about the tissue finish... I learned a lot from Tim the inspector's Tutorial on SFA:http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1257915798/0 (http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1257915798/0)
In the Vagabond thread you can find some pictures about how I added the tissue lettering on the Vagabond. (arround post #62) http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=585.150 (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=585.150)

I thinks that a tissue finish is one of the easier finishin methodes since you can arrange the tissue until you are satisfied, then fix it a bit and start to add some water on the top of the to attach tissue to reactivate the glue on the bottom. For the arranging you can take as much time as you want. No need to hurry there..
Hope this helps. If not, just ask.

tross, your "Miss Helen" is great! It reminds me that I should build a Mustang as well.... Just built two Bostangs, but no real Mustang... The time is coming closer...
It also seems that your new lens is doing a very good job. The pics are very sharp. Does the D40 also have a wrinkle filter? I would never buy a camery without it again. Looking forward to see some inflight pics. I love the exhausts... something I am never doing right... Still a lot to learn.

I did some more on my Rieseler RIII I started some time ago. First wanted to finish the Vagabond. This will be my first CO2 Plane... Hope that this will not end in a disaster...

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on March 23, 2014, 06:38:29 AM
Very nice Tony! With the 4 blade prop that is a peanut with poise  :)

Very tempted to build one from your plan....

Liking the graphical representation of the planform. And good to see the 'right' abbreviations in use  ;D Was that the Bill McCombs method (blurry bit)?



Love the Vagabond Roman - that panel is classic.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 23, 2014, 10:23:58 AM
Thanks Roman, Jon,

Mine isn't 100% complete Jon but you're welcome to it when it's done. :)
This is a set of Peck bones out of the bones drawer from a way back.
Quit when the kit canopy weighed in a almost a gram.
I needed to make room for more bones I'm building that will probably never get finished! ??? ::)
 ;D
Yep, we're doing what we can with the abbreviations but there's a bit of a head wind. :D
Good eyes on the McCombs bit. 8) I need to close the lens down a little for those shots.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Swarthog on March 23, 2014, 05:59:12 PM
Just of the board and went flying today, my first scratch built project. I picked the Peck Prairie Bird as we mostly fly on a small field and it's simple construction. I enlarged the fuse by 1/4 inch and also preshrunk all the tissue, which leaves a few wrinkles. The wheel pants I made were a joke, so I need to redo those, but today was flying on the big field up in Lakeville! It needed more downthrust but she has no serious issues and the wing DT works like a champ. Next time I'll be able to wind her up and finish the trimming process.   



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: John Boy Paddy on March 24, 2014, 02:53:41 AM
thanks all...

John Boy Paddy, about the tissue finish... I learned a lot from Tim the inspector's Tutorial on SFA:http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1257915798/0 (http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1257915798/0)
In the Vagabond thread you can find some pictures about how I added the tissue lettering on the Vagabond. (arround post #62) http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=585.150 (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=585.150)

I thinks that a tissue finish is one of the easier finishin methodes since you can arrange the tissue until you are satisfied, then fix it a bit and start to add some water on the top of the to attach tissue to reactivate the glue on the bottom. For the arranging you can take as much time as you want. No need to hurry there..
Hope this helps. If not, just ask.

tross, your "Miss Helen" is great! It reminds me that I should build a Mustang as well.... Just built two Bostangs, but no real Mustang... The time is coming closer...
It also seems that your new lens is doing a very good job. The pics are very sharp. Does the D40 also have a wrinkle filter? I would never buy a camery without it again. Looking forward to see some inflight pics. I love the exhausts... something I am never doing right... Still a lot to learn.

I did some more on my Rieseler RIII I started some time ago. First wanted to finish the Vagabond. This will be my first CO2 Plane... Hope that this will not end in a disaster...

Roman


Thanks "rgroener", my models always look scruffy. I'll put your method to use next time.

JBP


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 24, 2014, 07:11:26 AM
Thats a wild looking 4 blader Tony. It does set off your neat looking Mustang - very good effort. There must be something in these long inhospitable winters.
Also thanks for the design info - i always find it interesting.
You'll have a lot of fun flying your Prairie Bird SH. It looks like it will fly well.
John.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 24, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
Swarthog,
You'll enjoy that nice little Prairie Bird.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bredehoft on March 24, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
This is the desk, next to my computer - not my workbench.  It shows my winter projects and their current state (as of yesterday).  One had a prop/spinner replacement, one is a rebuild of a model that was built in '94 and last flown in '97, and 3 are new (one is ready to fly).  Bonus points if anyone can identify all 5 planes.  Extra bonus if you can properly match the list above to the correct model in the photo.
 
:)

--george


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on March 24, 2014, 12:25:40 PM
Thats a wild looking 4 blader Tony. It does set off your neat looking Mustang - very good effort. There must be something in these long inhospitable winters.

Thanks John,

I had some full powered flights with it.
It's a little slugish at the beginning when overpowered, but it settles in pretty good during the cruise.
I guess that's the right trade off, but still might try a bit thinner motor. ;D

Also thanks for the design info - i always find it interesting.

I don't know John. Just an exercise really.
Mr Peck did a good job.  :)
It's a good little flier. ;D

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Swarthog on March 24, 2014, 02:35:38 PM
Swarthog,
You'll enjoy that nice little Prairie Bird.
Dave

Thanks and I am enjoying it. The last flight of the day was around 40 seconds on 1100 winds of 16" of 1/8. The trim is set left/left and a nice circle so I'll set the rudder tonight and then sand in quite a bit more downthrust to get rid of the shims. With DT it weighed in @ 16 grams.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on March 26, 2014, 04:38:54 PM
In due course I will put up some more details of this project in the Power Models section, but for now, here is a picture of my latest Vintage FAI Power Model. In this case a Night Train Mk.7 - the 2nd version of this design that I have built. Covering is well under way, and I hope that the end result will at least qualify me to stand next to that master of F/F model finish, Bob DeShields!
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on March 27, 2014, 02:33:10 AM
Bredehoft,
Quote
This is the desk, next to my computer...
I cant see any desk in the picture?!    ;) ;D
But very nice models in the place the desk should be.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on April 20, 2014, 01:04:09 AM
I gathered up all of the electronic dethermalizers I've made into one place minus a few that are with friends.  I've made over 100. 

Narrowed my latest design for my own airplanes to to what's in photo 2.  Just over a gram in weight and on board is a port for a servo, a port for a motor or brushless ESC (up to 2.5 amps), an input port to connect to an RDT, a 434 MHz radio beacon transmitter, an 800+ lumen strobe and a port to connect to my altimeter to tell it start recording when the flight starts.  To adjust at the field I made a gui for my computer to create easy to choose options for the field using a simple controller.  The white panel at the bottom can be printed to a mailing label that can be stuck on the model to document the settings and some other important info.



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: NeilH on April 22, 2014, 06:37:53 PM
I recently finished my Island Flyer.  Glide tests in the back yard look good so far.  Just waiting for a dry day for test flights.  Now what to build next.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 22, 2014, 07:05:03 PM
Looks nice and light.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on April 22, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
Hope you fly in a big area. These really go just fine. Good job NeilH


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: NeilH on April 22, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Thanks.  They are very popular up here in the NW.  Clive really knows how to design 'em.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on April 22, 2014, 07:55:40 PM
He sure does.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 23, 2014, 01:45:45 AM
I like to convert rubber scale models to electric RC . My latest subjects were a Macchi M-67 Schneider Trophy racer, a Brown B-2 Miss                                              Los Angeles and a Focke Wulf Ta 152 H.
The Macchi M-67 is from the Peanut plan of Lobomir Koutny . It's double sized . The Floats are scheeted .The fuselage in the front area .


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ILM Tarheel on April 23, 2014, 12:19:16 PM
It rained all this past weekend so it was a good time to spend some time at the building board. The result was Al Lidberg's "Cruiser" Embryo published in Model Aviation April 1984. The only changes I made was to add the cockpit, wind screen, and head rest to meet the current FAC bonus point rules. Also a pop up tail for DT.  No chance to get to the flying field yet, but hand toss flights in the back yard look good. Embryos are basic, easy to build, and fun to fly models. They are also addictive!

Jimmy





Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 23, 2014, 07:37:50 PM
Jimmy,
Your "Cruiser" looks to have lots of potential.
Good job.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 23, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
Great looking M67 Raoul. It should look magnificent in the air.
What a neat Embryo Jimmy. You will efinitely need a DT on that model.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 24, 2014, 05:26:55 PM
Great looking M67 Raoul. It should look magnificent in the air.

John

I agree.
Very nice workmanship.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on April 24, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
Great Jobs done here. Hoping all fly as expected. :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 24, 2014, 11:30:48 PM
Thanks
She's got a little bit heavy with color .


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on April 25, 2014, 01:31:46 AM
Hi All,

Somehow missed this thread for some time.  There are some beautiful models posted here.

Have to say, that I've drooled and drooled over the Macchi for years and years, but never brave enough to build one.

Simply a beautiful model Raoul!  Any more pics? 

Don



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 25, 2014, 01:18:37 PM
Thanks for your acknowledgement
I have some more


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on April 25, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
Thanks Raoul.  A very beautiful model.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 25, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
Thanks
Here is my "Miss Los Angeles"which was completed in march .
It's from a Gene Dubois plan , enlarged to 200% and converted to elecrtic RC .
Span 45 cm ,length 50 cm , with aktuated flaps
I added some scale detail as the cockpit


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 25, 2014, 06:32:18 PM
raoul,
VERY nice but I think your enlargement was 136% from P-Nut size?
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 25, 2014, 06:41:01 PM
Your brown is another beautiful model Raoul. How does it fly?
Cheers
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 26, 2014, 07:07:48 AM
Two models nearly finished - a Guillows Pilatus Porter for rubber and a Hannover Cl11 for a Mills 75


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 26, 2014, 08:32:08 AM
That's the Question .I didn't get managed to get to my flying field for some time .
But I'll tell you .
Still another one. My currant build : a Ta 152 H as fictive Reno racer .


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on April 26, 2014, 05:24:31 PM
Very fine and clean work. How do you got managed the camouflage of the Brandenburg ?
They both look like they were good flyers .Much fun !


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 27, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
Two models nearly finished - a Guillows Pilatus Porter for rubber and a Hannover Cl11 for a Mills 75

Bill,
I'm not familiar with the Hannover aircraft but I can say that you did a fine job on the Pilatus Porter.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 27, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
Thank you Dave. I haven't built a Guillows before and it was interesting. I thought it would turn out heavy but in fact it is the same weight as my Westwings Puss Moth. No lead in that long nose! I hope to test it soon but I worry the motor will not fit through that tiny hole in the nose.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 27, 2014, 07:25:20 PM
Nice looking TA152 bones Raoul.
Very neat models Bill. They will look great in the air - particularly the colourful Hannover.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: raoul-bourke on May 05, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
Hello
My Ta 152 H has got some flesh on the bones .
It will get a Reno racer in a natural metal finish .
I didn't got managed to install retracts because the wing wasn't thick enough .
It's to be removed for flights .


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on May 30, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
Nothing as attractive as the other stuff shown here recently (great work, guys), but I got something finished at least. I call it the Super Cloud Buster. It's a Comet Cloud Buster scaled up to 30" wingspan. Weight without rubber is 50.5 grams. Not as light as I had hoped, but not unreasonable. One pic shows it with a standard sized one for comparison.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on June 01, 2014, 08:41:23 AM
Rounding the final turn towards the home stretch with my Comet D.VII dimer.  I've taken a few liberties to try a few things (like coping with a recalcitrant printer and shoe-box tissue :P) plus some extra detailing that is not on the plan (side cowl panels).  The camo scheme is that of the aircraft flown by Max Holtzem of JASTA 16b, drawings of which depict the colors about four shades lighter (the fuselage and horiz. tailplane are close).  I didn't bother to redo the wing for two reasons - no more white tissue and... it's a dimer.  Some paint (white) will be needed for the fuselage band, shooting star and fin/rudder before I do the final assembly.  Weight so far is 10.15 grams including all the wing and LG strut bits, nose block, and the wing locating fixture.  The landing gear spreader wing and wheels, not included in the weight, are lighter than the fixture.

The prop in one of the photos, tho the right size, will probably not be used.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on June 01, 2014, 12:23:15 PM
Pit,
   Looks good for shoe box tissue and I don't see much bleeding either.
Not to shabby either on the weight. Hope it all works out well for you.
How did you find what direction the grain went?

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on June 01, 2014, 01:13:22 PM
Thanks Skyraider!
The differences is the print quality came about due to running out of red in the middel of the printout.  After replenishing, I got impatient and printed a follow-on sheet before the new cartrige fully "loaded" - that was on my last bit of white tissue. The tissue has no "grain" at all.  Ragged tear in all directions and no wet strength whatsoever.  A drop of water does not spread out, but once it soaks through, the tissue can be shredded by a puff of air.  The borders of the lozenges showed no bleeding at all - very crisp - but the little shrinkage that the stuff had before printing is gone.  I had to apply the tissue as tightly as possible, as steaming (non-Epson ink) afterwards only helped a tiny bit.  WWI planes did NOT have perfectly tight covering anyway.

The stuff is quite brittle, even with only one coat of banana oil, so I may regret not waiting to get some more Esaki.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on June 01, 2014, 03:54:53 PM
Pit,
Skip the Esaki for now unless you really need some on hand ( and what modeller doesn't ).
If you have access to some Hallmark tissue ( domestic ), that's what I'd go for.  I've found
myself using more and more domestic Hallmark tissue than esaki. But that's just me.  Still,
your project is very impressive. Have fun with it and keep us posted on flights.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on June 01, 2014, 06:49:47 PM
Pit,
Skip the Esaki for now unless you really need some on hand ( and what modeller doesn't ).
If you have access to some Hallmark tissue ( domestic ), that's what I'd go for.  I've found
myself using more and more domestic Hallmark tissue than esaki. But that's just me.  Still,
your project is very impressive. Have fun with it and keep us posted on flights.

Skyraider

I've been using it myself. I notice that it has one shiny side like Esaki. I don't think it is, but it seems to handle similarly. A sheet 19 & 3/4 x 26 & 1/8 weighs 6 grams. How that compares to Esaki, I don't know. I don't have any at the moment.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on June 01, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
Bargle,
 
Quote
A sheet 19 & 3/4 x 26 & 1/8 weighs 6 grams. How that compares to Esaki, I don't know. I don't have any at the moment.

Last sheet of esaki I had came in at 4g. So about 2-2.5g lighter than Hallmark.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on June 01, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Skyraider,
What size sheet of Esaki weighs 4g?
If it's standard size 18" X 24" then I want to buy some of that.
Thanks,

Dave,
owner of about 80 (eighty) sheets of Esaki tissue weighing about .008g/sq.in.
Weight varies slightly depending on color pigment.
Very old PECK 'domestic' tissue weighs about the same as your Hallmark tissue.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on June 01, 2014, 10:40:08 PM
Dave,
    I no longer have the whole sheets. But I do have 2 -  6 x 24"
white # 0615 Esaki strips  and 3 - 6 x 12 that would make up a full sheet
plus a little extra. Weight comes in at 4g.  My box says lite - Flite # 0615 White.
Tissue count was 100 sheets ( 50 per box ) @ 3900 yen back in 2009 and
I used to get my tissue direct from Hiroshi Esaki. I use to also order the OD Green
but never got a chance to weigh it out.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 02, 2014, 03:41:32 AM
It is listed on Mike Woodhouse's site  http://www.freeflightsupplies.co.uk/   as 12.5g/ sq m


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on June 02, 2014, 06:12:34 AM
Germany is a black hole as far as Hallmark tissue is concerned.  Tissue seems to be almost totally unknown here with the exception of the stuff found in shoe boxes until fairly recently with two shops offering Esaki for a rather exorbitant (but at least available) price.  A BIG artists outlet in Frankfurt has a good supply of 10gram TENGUJO with 5 gram on special order (no Esaki).  My LHS does have the heavy "JAPICO" tissue in blue and white - weighs something like 16-18 grams/m².

I had weighed the shoe box stuff, and posted it somewhere compared to yellow Esaki.  It WAS heavier, but not by that much.  It did require more dope as there were obvious openings in the fibers (holes) and is very brittle when doped.  It also has a very pronounced texture - sort of lumpy - that doesn't completely go away after shrinking/doping.

EDIT: I weighed the sheet that I had printed the lozenge pattern on (11 x 14 inches - printed coverage = 95%) at 1.93 grams.  The WHITE, unprinted sheet was 1.83 grams (about 0.012 grams/in²).


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RolandD6 on June 02, 2014, 07:18:18 AM
...A BIG artists outlet in Frankfurt has a good supply of 10gram TENGUJO with 5 gram on special order (no Esaki).  My LHS does have the heavy "JAPICO" tissue in blue and white - weighs something like 16-18 grams/m²...

9 & 10 gsm tengujo tissues are usable although 6 and 7-8 gsm provides lighter results. I am currently experimenting with 5 gsm tengujo I got from Horomi in the US. It is not for the faint hearted because it is more holes than paper fibre. The jury is still out as to whether or not 5gsm results in a lighter covering than 6 or 7 gsm.

6 gsm is also full of holes but appears to work with traditional dope/polyurethhane brush coats, ( I do not use that technique unless I need a last shrink coat and then I only use a clear acrylic ink (no pigment)). 7gsm will accept brush coats but be careful with dope; the tissue will shrink very strongly.

The best examples I have ever found of 'domestic' tissue are also in the 16-18 gsm range.  

A while back you mentioned a lack of supply of dope in Germany. Randolf dope is supposed to be available in Belgium, if you are prepared to venture that far.

PARTCOAT BELGIUM B.V.B.A
Het Leeg 54
2930 Brasschaat
Belgium
32 475 27 83 73

pcbelgium@telenet.be

Hope that helps

Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on June 02, 2014, 10:44:46 AM
Quote
Last sheet of esaki I had came in at 4g.

A little earlier I weighed a sheet of dark blue FFS (Woodhouse) Esaki LiteFlite. It came out at 3.48g for a 44.5x60cm sheet (approx 17 1/2" x 23 1/2"). This equates to 13.03 gsm which is close enough to the usually quoted figure of 12 gsm.

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on June 02, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
Peter,
     That's about what I calculated on Dave's sheet. From the info he gave,
I figured he's in the 3.5 - 4g range per sheet based on the 12.5gsm. The same
( or close to what I have ) weight-wise.

Skyraider

Sorry, didn't mean to highjack the thread.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on June 06, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
My latest is the Cizek XL-56. I built it from Bob Holman's short kit. Weight as shown is 118g, will probably come close to 125g once I add the missing pieces. Hopefully I'll trim it this coming Sunday. This model looks and feels like a pure bred flying machine compared to everything else I've built, I'm curious how it will perform in real life;).

Now back to my Tsh-3 which was orphaned for a good 6 months...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Monique on June 06, 2014, 07:57:19 AM
Just got this together, part of a scale glider cookup, Stahl plan enlarged to 36".


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 06, 2014, 10:29:37 AM
That looks nice Artesus.
Great work Monique - eligible for the Peterborough bungee launch rules as well.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on June 06, 2014, 01:15:45 PM
My latest is the Cizek XL-56.

atesus,
Your XL-56 looks really nice.
I have no experience with Wakefield's from any era but would like to know how much Rubber is recommended for this ship.
Thanks,
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on June 06, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
Thanks guys!

Dave, I understand that the original model was flown with 80g of rubber. Than in 57, Cizek started experimenting with 50g of rubber. His original plan shows two motor peg locations for the two motor options. I came across a later version of the XL-56, named XL-56b published in Aeromodeller in 1958, which shows an alternate wing location for the 50g motor in addition to the alternate peg location. 

The weight shown on the plan is 240g with a 80g motor. I'm 35g below that, so I'm planning to start experimenting with a 53g (2/3 of 80g) motor, arranged in 16 strands of 40" length. I'll make two additional "booster" motors of 8 strands and 4 strands and add those in as necessary during trimming.

Looks great Monique, I like the colors!

--Ates


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on June 06, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
Ates,
Thanks for the info.
I have a small image of the plan with the notes/text in Czech and I couldn't quite make out the Rubber info.
Great job again.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 30, 2014, 12:14:38 PM
A Hannover CL11
40"   20oz   Mills 75


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Monique on June 30, 2014, 12:41:30 PM
That looks great Bill, any closeup shots?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 30, 2014, 01:27:24 PM
Here you go


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on June 30, 2014, 01:41:09 PM
Lovely workmanship Bill, well worth a spot of kudos  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 30, 2014, 02:09:46 PM
Well thank you. You can't beat a low-resolution image!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on June 30, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
Bill

I'll join the others and say it looks marvellous. Will we see it in the flesh (so to speak) on Sunday perchance?

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 30, 2014, 03:46:52 PM
Peter
We'll see. It was misbehaving at North Luffenham but luckily the grass was as high as an elephant's eye. Charlie tells me it's a bit short on the meadow. Please make yourself known!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on June 30, 2014, 05:35:05 PM
Bill

Will do. I've not been to Luffenham this year, but it sounds as bad as Salisbury Plain & Sculthorpe where it's necessary to walk like a dressage pony, otherwise the grass knits itself round your ankles, and over you go.................well I do  :o. Nevertheless, I accept that it's good for trimming models.

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on June 30, 2014, 05:48:28 PM
Do you need long grass at Port Meadow? I thought the standard practice there was to land in a nice soft cow pat.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 30, 2014, 09:01:57 PM
Very nice Hannover. It looks very impressive Bill. Good luck with it.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RolandD6 on June 30, 2014, 09:25:33 PM
Very nice Hannover. It looks very impressive Bill. Good luck with it.
John

I will second that.

Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on July 01, 2014, 03:11:27 AM
Especially the lozenges; they're just gorgeous. Even the painted over ones under the blue look spot on. They were a brave choice!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 01, 2014, 03:27:31 AM
Pete, thanks but actually the painting over thing was a relief because I could just slap on the lozenges anyhow, one coat. Another good thing was that the painted lozenges on the centre section and tail were 'an approximate match', which they very much are. Before the blue went on, the fuselage looked horrible.
I've been thinking about this model for 40 years and I'm glad I've got it out of my system. Whether it works or not remains to be seen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on July 01, 2014, 03:49:37 AM
Very nice Bill, all the best with the flying. I seem to remember in Eric Coates famous series of articles a photo of one, by I think, Terry Manley where it placed well in a competition. Superb job on the finish. Kudos
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 01, 2014, 04:34:07 AM
Dave
Yes, it was Terry's model that inspired mine. I have a flying shot of it passing overhead. Both models are the same size, power and (with the lead in the nose) weight. It placed second at that year's nats. The finish was a bit garish and Terry told me he subsequently painted it pale grey!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 01, 2014, 04:36:03 AM
A Guillows Nieuport 28 from the gallery, enlarged to 26" for next year's kit scale.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RalphS on July 01, 2014, 05:55:56 AM
Especially the lozenges; they're just gorgeous. Even the painted over ones under the blue look spot on. They were a brave choice!

He's had plenty of practice.  He was doing good lozenges when he was 16(?) - LVG something or other.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bingo Fuel on July 01, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
Bill,  Nice Nieuport 28.  I was just looking at my original Guillow kit.  Wood is more in line with concrete. Just don't put it in French roundels as the kit had it.  Jeese ya would think the guys at Guillows would have known the Americans flew them.   I'm thinking Telco CO2 for one.  I'm not going electric. Much lighter wood too.  Can't wait to see yours finished.  Super Hanover.  Like Wow!!!  Regards Bingo


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 02, 2014, 01:25:16 AM
Hi Bingo
TBH I hadn't noticed the French scheme on the plan. How very odd.
It's almost ready for covering and then spraying all those colours but after lozenges they will be easy.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Swarthog on July 10, 2014, 01:09:21 PM
First up a Comet Phantom Fury. I used iron on transfers for the parts and used the kit plan. I also found some wooden black wheels that are just right.  I need to drill the nose block and finish adjusting the stab which I mounted on nylon screws. Covered with Rit dyed Esaki Plyspan and painted with acrylic. She was practice for my planned Sparky build.   

Next is my long suffering Jimmie Allen Skokie. From the Laser cut Easy Built kit. I had built the fuse sides together for the first time and ran into a few issues so I shelved it for 6 months, now it's done, save landing gear. She is called the Chinacat Sunflower.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: skyraider on July 10, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
Quote
A Guillows Nieuport 28 from the gallery, enlarged to 26" for next year's kit scale.

Nice Bill!!  Actually I've been working on this series for some time now. Scaled up to 24" w/s but
none are anywhere near ready.

swarthog,
    Nice work! I've got about 6 or 8 in my storage that need to be completed. Cool tip in the Rite dye.

Skyraider


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on July 10, 2014, 02:47:02 PM
Here's my latest - An antidote to the current crop of bought F1A's.  ;)

All wood flying surfaces (Spruce spars), tissue over mylar covering, thin card capstrips, KSB timer, carbon tailboom and circle towhook. AUW is well under even with a slab of church roof in the nose to take the CofG to 54%. (398gms) Currently awaiting test flights


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on July 10, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
Quote
Here's my latest

Smashing - not literally I hope, and I do love underfins. However, surely you can't fly this in classic glider on Sunday ;D

I'm sure it'll get the Andy Crisp seal of approval for 'proper' gliders ;)

Peter
ps I've not forgotten the CO2 adaptor. If all else fails I'll get it delivered on the London Gala Saturday.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on July 10, 2014, 03:43:59 PM
Cheers Peter - you may know already I have a bit of a thing about underfins - especially on circle-tow models; my feeling is that without wing wigglers and such black magic a normal top fin can be sometimes ineffective getting the b***dy thing 'round the bottom of the circle leading to much galloping about (which might keep onlookers entertained, but is no god for my poor old heart)  ;D

I've a choice of a couple of classics for Sunday, but will probably plum for my much battered and well flown Inchworm rather than the newer and sleeker looking Nike which has yet to convince me of it's ability to string three maxes in a row. It must be said it looks fabulous though and I've made a few rather drastic trim changes to try and sort it out . . . .

London Gala will be fine for the CO2 thingymajig - not going to fly them before then anyway.

Toodlepip
Paul


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on July 11, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
Here's another one from me. A mixture of 2 designs. Wing and tail group are from the 'Canarsie Condor' by Don Ross. The fuselage is an enlarged and flipped over version of the one from a Comet Jupiter. Span is approx. 27". Weight without rubber is a portly 36.7 grams


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on July 11, 2014, 09:12:11 PM
First up a Comet Phantom Fury. I used iron on transfers for the parts and used the kit plan. I also found some wooden black wheels that are just right.  I need to drill the nose block and finish adjusting the stab which I mounted on nylon screws. Covered with Rit dyed Esaki Plyspan and painted with acrylic. She was practice for my planned Sparky build.    

Next is my long suffering Jimmie Allen Skokie. From the Laser cut Easy Built kit. I had built the fuse sides together for the first time and ran into a few issues so I shelved it for 6 months, now it's done, save landing gear. She is called the Chinacat Sunflower.

Love the paint schemes on these 2. Finishes don't always have to be serious.  ;D
Be sure to post pics of the Sparky when it's done, if you don't do a build thread.

Here's my latest - An antidote to the current crop of bought F1A's.  ;)

All wood flying surfaces (Spruce spars), tissue over mylar covering, thin card capstrips, KSB timer, carbon tailboom and circle towhook. AUW is well under even with a slab of church roof in the nose to take the CofG to 54%. (398gms) Currently awaiting test flights.

Looking forward to flight pics. Nicely done. :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Graiskye on July 13, 2014, 08:44:01 PM
First up a Comet Phantom Fury. I used iron on transfers for the parts and used the kit plan. I also found some wooden black wheels that are just right.  I need to drill the nose block and finish adjusting the stab which I mounted on nylon screws. Covered with Rit dyed Esaki Plyspan and painted with acrylic. She was practice for my planned Sparky build.    

Next is my long suffering Jimmie Allen Skokie. From the Laser cut Easy Built kit. I had built the fuse sides together for the first time and ran into a few issues so I shelved it for 6 months, now it's done, save landing gear. She is called the Chinacat Sunflower.

Great stuff from everyone.As is the usual.
 I had to chuckle, none of you old hippies mentioned Jerry G. and crew, peering out from the Skokies cabin... I mean 'Chinacat Sunflower'. come on gang, or has it actually been that long.
 Time stops for no man.
Not even Jerry Garcia.

 PS: upon closer look I think they all may be pics of JG, first one he is young ? Neat, and a great conversation starter...lol.
 

 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Graiskye on July 13, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
Here's my latest - An antidote to the current crop of bought F1A's.  ;)

All wood flying surfaces (Spruce spars), tissue over mylar covering, thin card capstrips, KSB timer, carbon tailboom and circle towhook. AUW is well under even with a slab of church roof in the nose to take the CofG to 54%. (398gms) Currently awaiting test flights
YAY. Beauty as well.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Swarthog on July 14, 2014, 04:57:56 PM
Look for awhile at the China Cat Sunflower
proud-walking jingle in the midnight sun
Copper-dome Bodhi drip a silver kimono
like a crazy-quilt stargown
through a dream night wind...

Not going to see too many "serious" airplanes from me. I have too much fun with them. Graiskye, you are correct.  Three pictures of Jerry waving his 4 fingered hand at different stages in his career. Wow he died 19 years ago, way too soon. The music of my youth lives on and some days we can turn back the clock for a little while.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 18, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
Hi Bingo
TBH I hadn't noticed the French scheme on the plan. How very odd.
It's almost ready for covering and then spraying all those colours but after lozenges they will be easy.
In the end I opted for a very simple scheme to get it ready for Old Warden but I am thinking of a 1/12 diesel version to go inside some Callie graphics markings.
It weighs 2.8oz before lead


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 22, 2014, 08:29:09 AM
 ;D
here's a pic of my guillows 900 series mustang.  I've flight tested it in my back yard and it flys good.  just keep an eye on trimming adjustments thanks to the erratic winds that make it thru the trees
jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: korale on July 23, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
I wanted to see how small I could build.

I'm trying to build a 1/2 pistachio scale Himax. (4 inch wingspan)

Here are the fuselage and tail feathers. I'm using this fuselage to test out the prop/rubber combination to see how long a motor run I can get. I'm building another fuselage that will be neater and more robust.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 29, 2014, 12:25:21 AM
Here is my latest peanut.  A Vickers Jockey 151.   I reduced the 20" WS Scientific plan obtained from the HP plan gallery.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on July 29, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
Looking good Bob. Is that silver Esaki or lightly sprayed silver colour?
Im an interested in hearing how it flies.
Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 29, 2014, 09:25:10 AM
Looking good Bob. Is that silver Esaki or lightly sprayed silver colour?
Im an interested in hearing how it flies.
Roman
Roman....I used one thin coat of Testor's acrylic enamel sprayed on white Esaki.  I will be flying this weekend and hope to get a video (or at least photos).  I think I messed up the decalage (appears to be negative 1 degree) but I think I can correct with the adjustable elevator.  The weight (everything except the rubber motor) is 13.7 grams.  I put a motor together using (3) strips of 1/8" by 6" length.  The motor (with o'rings) only weighs 1.9 grams.  That is barely over 10% of the plane weight.  Do you think this will work?  I had always assumed one needed to aim for a motor weight of at least 20%.  However, when I tried longer motors I had all kinds of problems with bunching and hitting the fusealage.  I have seen your planes fly and you know what you are doing.  How would you power this Jockey.  Thank you in advance for your time.

Bob


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on July 29, 2014, 11:26:07 AM
Looking good Bob. Is that silver Esaki or lightly sprayed silver colour?
Im an interested in hearing how it flies.
Roman
Roman....I used one thin coat of Testor's acrylic enamel sprayed on white Esaki.  I will be flying this weekend and hope to get a video (or at least photos).  I think I messed up the decalage (appears to be negative 1 degree) but I think I can correct with the adjustable elevator.  The weight (everything except the rubber motor) is 13.7 grams.  I put a motor together using (3) strips of 1/8" by 6" length.  The motor (with o'rings) only weighs 1.9 grams.  That is barely over 10% of the plane weight.  Do you think this will work?  I had always assumed one needed to aim for a motor weight of at least 20%.  However, when I tried longer motors I had all kinds of problems with bunching and hitting the fusealage.  I have seen your planes fly and you know what you are doing.  How would you power this Jockey.  Thank you in advance for your time.

Bob
The plane should fly OK with a single loop (2 strands) of 3/32nd, and a length of (for testing/initial trimming) 1.5 times the distance between the prop hook and the rear anchor.  A longer motor can be tried after you get the plane flying.

One thing I see that could be a problem with this otherwise fine looking model, is the apparent insufficient dihedral.  You want the wingtips at least above the thrust line for roll stability.  Have you had a chance to test glide it?  What diameter prop are you gouing to use?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 29, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
Thanks for the idea Pit.  I will try that setup this weekend and let you know how things go.  Your right about the dihedral.  I meant to build in more but Goofed it up.  BTW, what is the rule of thumb (if there is one) for the proper motor weight for a given model.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pat D on July 29, 2014, 04:29:34 PM
Hi everyone

I am currently building the bluebottle squadron fW190D for rubber power.

The fuselage is coming along and i think i have picked a colour scheme as per the photo

Does anyone know what the AUW of this model is supposed to be ??

Thanks

Pat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on August 21, 2014, 01:22:26 PM
My current attempt at keeping my hands under control is a neat Canard twin motor design by the Master, Bill Brown.  It is the RUTANGO @ 75% scale (= 17 inch span/length) which has proven to be a bit of a challenge!  Don Mclellan built one with a 13" span, and has had no real luck getting it to fly (yet ;)).  After studying the plan - which is one of a couple that Bill did not get a chance to complete, and is unknown whether or not an alpha build was done - plus some experiments I've done with canard configurations, I've come to the conclusion that the incidence in the MAIN wing is the culprit for its recalcitrance.

I've built the model to the plan but, along with my mod to the fins/rudders, will set up the main wing with only the effective incidence - that is, the airfoil bottom parallel to the datum - and leave enough room to be able to change angle a bit.  A problem will be with the motor tubes, as they have a small x-section that won't allow too great a change in thrust angle.

Time will tell...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on August 23, 2014, 05:11:10 AM
Hmmm... that is good to see Pit, as I remember you saying a while ago that time was a bit against you on the building front.  Clearly there is a bit of talent there for it so press on!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 24, 2014, 09:49:18 PM
Thats a challenge Pete. It looks very intersting - good luck with it.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on August 25, 2014, 07:11:28 AM
Thanks guys!  There are a number of things that are conspiring to hamper my building (and flying) efforts at the moment, but pressing on nonetheless ;).  Does anyone know whether Bill got around to actually building and flying the RUTANGO?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Modelace on August 25, 2014, 11:57:45 AM
Hi everyone

I am currently building the bluebottle squadron fW190D for rubber power.

The fuselage is coming along and i think i have picked a colour scheme as per the photo

Does anyone know what the AUW of this model is supposed to be ??

Thanks

Pat
(quote)
The AUW is probably not in the plans or building instructions. One way to come up with a reasonable number is to compute the square inches of wing area. Divide by 2; that should give you the weight in grams to set as a weight goal.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on August 27, 2014, 11:32:23 PM
Back in July while on vacation, the wife and I stopped at an ice cream parlor in a small town. Someone had an HO scale railroad diorama set up in the middle of the place. There were a few kids peering at the trains. I was talking to the guy and he wanted an HO scale plane to sit at an airstrip beside his trains. Someone had given him a very large plastic Jet kit. He passed it on to me to give to my disabled nephew and I promised to build and send him a scale HO model plane. I went for the PA-12 Supercruiser. I just finished it and mailed it off to him. Although not really a flying model, with only a 4 7/8" wingspan, it is the smallest model I have put together (so far). Mostly constructed of 1/32 sticks & sheet. Skins were printed on pre-shrunk tissue. Finishing was a single coat of dope. The tail wires were some red thread that I coated with dope to stiffen before cutting to size & gluing on. Finished weight was 1.2 grams. I would put it somewhere else on the site, but I didn't want to start an new thread for it. Here are some pics.

Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on August 28, 2014, 12:50:38 AM
That is an exceptionally beautiful model Ian!  Big time congrats.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 28, 2014, 03:09:08 AM
They are 1/32 sticks :D That is a small model - looks great.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SteveSw on August 28, 2014, 10:38:23 PM
I actually finished this last spring but since it’s my latest creation, I guess it fits this thread. It’s a 24” Morane Saulnier Type N that I built using the excellent plans of fellow forum member Tony Ross.

I did an article on the build for my local club newsletter which can be read here:

http://www.lisf.org/home/wwf_free_flight/data/Building_a_Morane_Saulnier_Type_N.pdf

Here are a set of photos of the build:

http://www.lisf.org/home/photos/Building_a_Morane_Saulnier_Type_N/index.html


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: miloman on August 29, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
Great build photos Steve!!…..Milo


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on August 29, 2014, 10:26:04 PM
   Great presentation Steve, you've done justice to Tony's well developed model, you both should be pleased with the result. Kudos


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 30, 2014, 08:51:45 PM
I agree with Dave -that’s a great effort Steve. It’s a credit to Tony's plans as well. The very effective wood finish on the Peck (?) propeller caught my eye as well as all that rigging.
i was curious as to why you didn't add the wing mount aluminium tubing while the wing was in one piece, and then separate with the wing panels, as it almost guarantees alignment of the tubes.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SteveSw on August 30, 2014, 11:12:16 PM
Thanks for the kind comments guys.

It was actually easier to add the alum tubing after separating the wings due to the highly undercambered design. I just happened to build the wing in one piece as that’s how it was laid out on the plan. Tony’s design was for the LE and spar to be used for wing mounting. As this would be fine for a wing as originally designed, I knew with a larger 24” WS, 1/16” spars would spell disaster if I cartwheeled it. The tubes are directly in line with the LE and spar so alignment is no problem. Dihedral is easily adjusted by slipping a tight fitting brass tube over the mounting wires in the fuselage and bending up or down.  My Henry Struck designed 1911 Cessna uses the same system and it’s strong and makes wing adjustment and removal easy. I sincerely hope Tony fully finishes this plan someday and uploads it to the plan gallery. Better yet, someone needs to market his design as a kit. Laser cut parts of course!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on September 02, 2014, 05:03:25 PM
Nearly missed this. Great model Steve!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on September 03, 2014, 03:11:55 PM
Phew!!  A model of which you can be justly proud.  Smashing.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tross on September 14, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
Looks fantastic Steve. :o
Thanks again for letting me be a part of it.
It was a great project.
Kudos to you.

All the best. :)

Tony

P.S....my favorite pics are of it in the air!!!!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 16, 2014, 03:53:10 AM
A Sopwith Pup. Aeromodeller plan by Ken McDonough
30", 10 oz, DC Dart, silk on tissue covering, dope, not Ezedope, no washout.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Monique on October 16, 2014, 05:06:21 AM
Looks great Bill, but what are the wings set at?!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 16, 2014, 11:02:19 AM
Looks great Bill, but what are the wings set at?!
Three degrees both wings (along bottom) zero tail. Same for 50 years.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 16, 2014, 06:22:28 PM
Very nice Bill.How does it fly?
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 24, 2014, 05:40:37 PM
Very nice Bill.How does it fly?
John
John
I have two more opportunities to test it this year but I don't anticipate dramas.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 24, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
A Teacher's Pet. 49g I'm afraid!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: faif2d on October 24, 2014, 06:34:14 PM
I built one of these years ago when the plans came out in Aeromodeler.  Really nice design and it flew very well also.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glidermaster on October 24, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
Very nice, Bill!
49 grams with rubber?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 25, 2014, 02:39:37 AM
Very nice, Bill!
49 grams with rubber?
I wish! Thanks John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on October 28, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
The RUTANGO is, for all practical purposes, FINISHED except for a trim stripe or two.  One bit of striping (either paint or tissue) will go around the cabin - the cutting guide marks didn't wash off.  I guess the OHP marker I used worked "permanent" on the plastic used.  No additional ballast was needed to maintain the CG and there is no noticeable shift with or without the landing gear.  The gear will be used only for indoor flying - the wheels roll SO smoothly that I had trouble keeping the model stationary for the photos!

A pleasant surprise was the final weight of 26.7 grams (w/o rubber and with landing gear) - 29.8gm with the short motors - where my goal was for under 30.  This is a bit under the weight with the "skeleton" fuselage used for incidence testing and will allow me to do a bit more "moisture proofing".

Follow-up flight testing with the full fuselage might be possible tomorrow.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on October 28, 2014, 11:09:13 AM
Very nice Pete!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rewinged on October 28, 2014, 07:53:25 PM
I really, really like this!  Great photos, too!!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 28, 2014, 08:05:10 PM
Impressive Pete - very neat and attractive colour scheme too.
DT? :D]
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: frash on October 28, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
Strange...but I like strange, and very nicely done.

Fred Rash


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on October 28, 2014, 10:45:45 PM
New Super Pearl 282 with Picco P-Zero .049.  Goes up with authority!!!  Hope the pictures make it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on November 03, 2014, 01:07:59 PM
Pete and Don inspired this rendition of the Rutango...

Mine still needs some paint trimming and the finalizing of the wing mounting system.  But almost completed! Glue is still drying on the canopy glazing.

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on November 03, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Tom that looks amazing. Seems like some colors were borrowed from the Superman outfit. AMAZING STUFF...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on November 03, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Agree with FD - even the yellow props seem correct.
Thats a neat Pearl FD. I like the way the diagonal ribs brace the tip ribs on the wing and stab. The prop looks a little unusual - is it a custom prop?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on November 03, 2014, 10:32:28 PM
Prop is an APC 5.5 X 2.  Seems to pull better than the UC Combat toothpicks.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on November 03, 2014, 11:46:21 PM
Hi Tom,

Agree with the above, and think you need some superman decals.

Nice work!

Don


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on November 06, 2014, 11:15:15 PM
Thanks Flyace1946, Don, OZPAF, frash and y'all....

I did borrow from the Superman outfit scheme of red and blue.  Got some trim to finish and I'm looking for some Superman "S" decals or stickers to add to the model.  I'm checking the Dollar Tree Store in the kids sticker section and Michaels if I don't find anything there.

The yellow props where just what I had on hand and I do like the way they look.

Thanks again y'all for the kind comments, she's definitely not your everyday model.  It's all Don and Pete's fault, I just couldn't pass this up after seeing their models!!!  Well Done Guy!

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Scottl0413 on November 07, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
Dean, really cool 1/2A!!! Have you tacked that Picco engine yet. I lost a Cyclone last year and am looking for something to replace it. On another note, how's the Big Dawg coming along.

Scott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: outofbalance on November 07, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
Hi All,

RUTANGO. Makes me think of Bill Brown.

Nice models, Gents.

Outofbalance


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: flydean1 on November 07, 2014, 02:08:03 PM
Haven't tached the Picco yet.  Pulls so hard I just want to get rid of it!  I do highly recommend this engine.  Although Imdon't think Charlie Caton had the right prop on hid Cyclon, I was getting MUCH higher.  This Pearl is "scarey fast" with the Picco.  Adding CF caps to diagonals on the Big Dawg wing.  Added shear webs to the stab.  Probably ready to fly in about 10 days or so.  With the Novarossi, the nose will be very short!



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on November 09, 2014, 01:16:48 AM
You know how you think you've completed a model and you've done everything you'd plan to do...then you take some pictures of the plane to post and you see a glaring missing element!

TAAA DAAAA....I've just done it!  Can you see it?

Here's the pictures,  I still have to build a stooge for this beauty!

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on November 13, 2014, 06:15:38 PM
These pics of the Rutango are for Don McLellan...
Here's the "Super Rutango"  LOL

Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on November 13, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
Super bird. Where did you get the plan for  Super Rutango? Really a cool looking bird.  WOW WEE


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on November 13, 2014, 09:33:46 PM
Thanks FLYACE1946... It's just a full size Rutango, plans by Bill Brown in the plans gallery, but this was inspired by Don and Pete, Don built one on the quicky cookup on SFA and Pete built one on the S&T any twin cookup.  I went with this red & blue scheme and had the yellow props in the proper size and decided the yellow went with this scheme.  Don said it looked like "Superman" scheme and recommended the Superman emblem.  So that's how the Super Rutango came about.

Here's the link to the plan:  Click Here  (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/categories.php?cat_id=124&page=2)

Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on January 04, 2015, 03:36:30 PM
Earl Stahl P-40
(http://i.imgur.com/hJtgnuW.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 04, 2015, 07:12:42 PM
Neat work and what an impressive photo.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Beazld on January 12, 2015, 03:49:22 PM
Here is my first Embryo, Big Cat short kit from Shorty's/Volare.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on January 12, 2015, 06:37:08 PM
Looks good Beazld! That plane appeals to me too, maybe I should just go ahead and get one... :-\

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on January 12, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
I guess I might as well post this here too. I already posted it in the FF scale forum.

Guillows Porter, 46 grams (no rubber), all colored tissue with chalk weathering.

Cheers,

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on January 20, 2015, 07:40:46 AM
Very nice Porter!
Dont forget to share how it flies.

roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Steven Wrigley on January 20, 2015, 11:53:16 PM
These pics of the Rutango are for Don McLellan...
Here's the "Super Rutango"  LOL

Tom

That blue looks like its Hallmark tissue. I really like that stuff.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on January 26, 2015, 07:28:43 AM
Just finished my little own design Short Tucano, based on the construction style of the Frog Junior series. Wing span is 11.5" and it weighs just under 8g. Construction is all sheet 1/32 and light block balsa. There's a full build thread on Small Flying Arts here: http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1420316988/0

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on January 26, 2015, 07:52:55 AM
That's a little stunner Jon!

Test Flights at Bushfields on Saturday?

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on January 26, 2015, 08:08:45 AM
Drawing to completion in three weeks too!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on January 26, 2015, 08:48:00 AM
Absoloutely gorgeous Jon.

I can see this kicking off a whole new "pseuo Frog Junior" model class! 

So many possible subjects.......

Mike s


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on January 26, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
Ready for Jumbo scale, my 37" Curtiss XP-55 Ascender.
(http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/skblanch2137/20150125_161534_zpspwuonocl.jpg) (http://s401.photobucket.com/user/skblanch2137/media/20150125_161534_zpspwuonocl.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on January 26, 2015, 11:05:15 AM
And another
(http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/skblanch2137/20150125_161309_zps6p5ycbzj.jpg) (http://s401.photobucket.com/user/skblanch2137/media/20150125_161309_zps6p5ycbzj.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 26, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
That's a very nice model. I assume it travels from right to left?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DaddyO on January 26, 2015, 12:02:05 PM
Love the Xp-55  ;D

Looked at the Earl Stahl version a few times, but keep seeing all those sticky-out bits and thinking it would be one repair after another. . .


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on January 26, 2015, 12:05:33 PM
Bill, It does indeed travel from left to right!

Daddy O, The front end is knock off. That is usually the only real damage concern on a canard. Hopefully it will survive the trimming phase so I can get it safely to Geneseo this summer.

Steve


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on January 26, 2015, 04:38:08 PM
Thanks Andrew, yes that's the plan  :)

Thanks Mike, yeah there are plenty that would suit the style!


Jon




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 26, 2015, 05:55:36 PM
What a nice looking Tucano Jon. That should be an interesting flyer with its nice thin solid wings as long as its not too heavy.
Just checked youir SFA link Jon - all above taken into account in a methodical way.

Impressive XP- 55 Steve - quite courageous.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on January 27, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Hi Jon, that's a lovely Tucano. I don't visit SFA routinely so I've only just caught up! By coincidence I recently rebuilt my FROG Speedy and had the same idea - that the design lent itself to many subjects (wouldn't have thought of the Tucano in a month of Sundays tho!). I remade my model as a [pseudo-FROG Junior ;D] 'Speedy Spitfire' because I always felt there was a Spitfire trying to get out of the original design :D.

The new wing has much-reduced dihedral, and doubler strips glued under the leading edges and shaped to provide some camber. There is also a single rib under each wing (visible in pic 2 as shadows) to add a touch of camber. This reduces to zero where the wing meets the fuselage. The tailplane and fin are hugely reduced in area, I would guess in the region of 30%. I had a hunch that these changes wouldn't reduce stability dangerously, and flying in a breeze supports this hunch. The tail is much lighter, moving the CG forward. The dihedral is adequate. The absence of washout doesn't seem a problem. The canopy is cut from a plunge-moulding made using the plug I made for an Fw 190 spinner. It's stuck in place with sticky tape - yuk, not up to Jon's standard I'm afraid! The 'wheels' at present are just two balsa discs glued in place. I made a new prop, slightly bigger. With a gram of noseweight and 26" of 3/32" Tan SS in a single loop it totals 10g, and based on low-turns flights looks a better performer than its previous incarnation - should be good for well over 30sec.

I'm afraid my lack of imagination was tending to make me think of other WWII-type layouts for 'pseudo-FROG-style' future efforts - Jon's Tucano has expanded my horizon. I won't be attempting a Curtiss Ascender though Steve - that's a very impressive example you've got there :).

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on January 27, 2015, 10:45:44 AM
Looks lovely Stephen  :) there's loads of scope, we need a pseudo-frog thread :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on January 27, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Hi Jon, that's a lovely Tucano. I don't visit SFA routinely so I've only just caught up! By coincidence I recently rebuilt my FROG Speedy and had the same idea - that the design lent itself to many subjects (wouldn't have thought of the Tucano in a month of Sundays tho!). I remade my model as a [pseudo-FROG Junior ;D] 'Speedy Spitfire' because I always felt there was a Spitfire trying to get out of the original design :D.


Not sure if you are aware but they did a FROG Junior Spitfire.  The scale junior series are a bit more tucked away than the "classic" Junior ones (speedy, Sporty etc) on Mike's fantastic site, here is the link to the page (the spit is about halfway down.)

http://www.houseoffrog.co.uk/junior_scale.htm

More than a couple of years ago whilst getting back into the hobby, I chatted with a guy at Impington that had built and was flying one.  I seem to remember it was flying quite nicely.

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on January 27, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
Not sure if you are aware but they did a FROG Junior Spitfire.

Darn - no I wasn't. I thought I'd familiarised myself with Mike's site but missed the Junior Scale. Either that or I'd forgotten in the couple of yrs since I visited it. Mind you the Spit and the hacked 'Speedy Spit' are almost the same thing apart from the teardrop hood - I did consider making the u/c a bit more Spitfireish but it was only a whim so I never got that far. I did ponder how to go about one with an oval fuselage, cambered wing with fillets and stuff but drifted off to sleep or something. I might give it a shot.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on January 27, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
I don't think that they did a Hurricane or an ME109 though? ....... ;)

Best start that thread Jon.....

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 27, 2015, 05:14:34 PM
Your Spitfeedy looks nice Stephen.
Sems a lot of scope there.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on January 31, 2015, 04:35:45 PM
Some great builds here recently  :)

The XP-55 is stunning.

Jon,
The clean style of your Tucano is stunning


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on February 01, 2015, 03:10:56 PM
Just finished my little own design Short Tucano, based on the construction style of the Frog Junior series. Wing span is 11.5" and it weighs just under 8g. Construction is all sheet 1/32 and light block balsa. There's a full build thread on Small Flying Arts here: http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1420316988/0

Jon

Jon:
That's awesome. Would you perhaps post the plans on the HPA plan page?

-Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 01, 2015, 03:31:21 PM
Thanks Dave, Russ.
I will publish it on our club website at some point.

The model flew yesterday. At first it was doing a very unpleasant side slip into a nose high knife edge stall which had me worried about the possibility of the canopy interfering with and blanketing flow over the fin (I've heard similar stories with Bearcats) but in the end a touch of downthrust was all that was needed. My Speedy also has crazy amounts so I should have anticipated that.

After that it was cruising around nicely. Flights would be around the 30 second mark (from video) on 700-800 turns. The motor (10" of 3/32) should take more but was plenty powerful enough, perhaps I will strip a slightly thinner motor.

Unfortunately I clipped the ceiling and after a display of 'aerobatics', bust the balsa spinner :/ Only a tiny amount of noseweight was needed to smooth out a slight stall as the power dropped off and she flew off the board with no trim tabs, just a tweak to the rudder and a touch of washin breathed into the inner wing.

Over all I'm pretty chuffed with it  :) and at will organise a plan in the style of the Junior Series.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nke-C7-VwQo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i85fbe2zPP8


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 01, 2015, 06:01:56 PM
Nice stable flight Jon. Its a fairly fast little beast and the end glide - low power section of the flight looked really nice.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on February 01, 2015, 07:30:57 PM
 ;D  i'm working on a Guillows 500 series Spitfire.  i'm reducing weight as much as I can by reducing keels as well as LE and TEs of flying surfaces.  My Fuselage is only 6 grms and the tail feathers is only 1 using Guillows wood and it and the light stuff either.  I'll post the bones and then the cover job soon.
JIM ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glue_finger on February 02, 2015, 12:47:06 AM
Mystery Plane from Volare/Shorty's basement.  13 1/2" ws, came in at 12.8 g empty.  Nothing left to do but wait for a nice calm day.  :)



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 02, 2015, 01:43:53 AM
Looks good. Hope it's a flyer.
Never saw / realised this kind of wheel pants construction...

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: glue_finger on February 02, 2015, 02:41:10 AM
Haha, yeah, I bungled that part.  The wheels are sticking out in the air stream instead of hiding inside the wheel pants.   ;D  The drawing shows them inside.  I never did wheel pants before.  I wanted to make sure the wheels turn, so the bushing is sticking out too far inboard.  

They are supposed to look like this ones.
(http://volareproducts.com/wp-content/uploads/Durham06.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on February 02, 2015, 02:59:07 AM
My latest is a Gollywock, built from a Bob Holman short kit. Came out a bit heavier (65g) than what I hoped for. I didn't have time to carve a 13.5" folder ahead of next weekend's IKE Winter Classic contest, so I'm using a 12" freewheeler which I already had.

--Ates


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on February 02, 2015, 06:51:42 AM
Good to see those flights Jon, pretty much 'off the drawing board' by the sound of it. I'm guessing you'll be able to squeeze more out of it. . .

The wind is giving itself a rest today, so I flew my little "Speedy Spitfire". No ceiling restrictions for me ;D. There's about 800 turns (2/3rds of full turns) onboard. With this model the limiting factor may be the rubber jamming in the slim rear fuselage rather than the '75% of theoretical breaking point' which is my usual definition of max turns. In this flight the turns ran right out - no jamming. Listen to the lovely crackling of those Griffon exhaust stubs. . .oh alright, it's just the rubber clattering in the fuselage. . .The model climbs for most of the run, which seems a good sign :). 

http://youtu.be/qmfrVUyWTI4

I would've tried to video flights with more turns except for the new batteries in my camera which are only capable of a minute's work before needing 6hrs recharge.

Talking about a minute's work followed by 6hrs recharge: I should be building my Bf 109G model, not larking around flying! If I don't get that thing moving soon it's going to languish 'til next winter, I suspect.

Stephen.




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 02, 2015, 08:35:38 AM
Very nice! I'm pretty sure I heard the crackle of exhaust there  ;D
What was the motor?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on February 02, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
What was the motor?
I told you - a Griffon. . .oh, I see. It's 26" of 3/32 Tan SS, in a single unbraided loop. I'm not sure how it manages to unwind itself fully in the constricted fuselage, but it does. Given that, I may try a longer, perhaps braided, motor after some more test flights. I shall also try a coarser prop pitch. I was wondering if you couldn't get more rubber in your Tucano Jon. Mind you, if as you say in your post up the thread that 3/32 is more power than you need, then perhaps your idea to strip a thinner motor might provide the same duration-per-length as the 3/32 motor by virtue of being lighter. Also of course you have the ceiling to contend with. . :). I'm hoping for a fair bit more duration from this little bucket if I can get the biggest possible motor in it, because it seems so eager to climb.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 02, 2015, 10:06:37 AM
Crumbs, that is long! I could do better than 10" I'm sure....


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on February 02, 2015, 10:29:51 AM
Just to clarify Jon, that's a 13" long motor. In a simple loop like this I'll cut, say, 28" of rubber assuming that I'll use an inch either side in tying a knot and trimming the excess. I haven't yet thought of a completely unambiguous way of describing a rubber motor - loops, strands, length. . .  I'm sure you were thinking of a 13" long motor, it's just that it doesn't seem exceptionally long to me - probably because I've used motors much longer than HtP pretty much from the start of my modelling career.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on February 02, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
Ah I understand. I thought you meant a 26" loop!

I believe the correct way to describe a motor is strands.
So that would be a 13" motor made up of 2 strands of 3/32.

I also like to compare the HtP. The Tucano has an HtP of 6.5" so 10" is 1.53 times. Not that extreme really...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 02, 2015, 07:18:15 PM
What a lot of fun for the effort in these small sheet models. Looks great in flight Stephen you may need a chain to keep you to the 109 building bench. ;D

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: miloman on February 25, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
Guys; thanx for the link to frog! Can't wait to try one..... Milo


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on February 25, 2015, 11:11:45 PM
If I did it right, I've attached my modified Stratosphere - a plan I got years ago from John Pond plans, and never got around to building it.  The plan had a rectangular sheet balsa (1/16") fuselage, and I build a square fuselage, tissue covered. The flying surfaces are as per plan, but the folder is the design I'm most comfortable with- using a square aluminum tube for the hub and the round aluminum tube fitting inside for the blades.  It hasn't flown under power yet, but the glides have been promising.  I had to change the prop spring to a weaker one to let the motor unwind better.

Other pics are of my P40E - technically not quite complete yet as it needs a canopy, pilot, and prop blades.   I started building it long ago - I have a picture of it dated 2008.  I hope to get it in the air this summer.  Wheels are bas-relief and held on with magnets.  I'm building a landing gear for display which will plug in when it's on the shelf.

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 26, 2015, 01:22:08 AM
Interesting and nicely built models.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Warhawk on February 27, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
Correction:  The model is a Modified Stratometer, NOT Stratosphere.  I'm not sure why I want to confuse the two, but I do.  Like most models, the pictures hide a lot of mistakes.  The thing looks like it can hold a ton of rubber, but I want to get a feel for the flight characteristics before I start stepping it up.  I'll probably also add a DT device before I get carried away, too.

Justin


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OneArm on February 27, 2015, 10:46:21 AM
What's the size on the Stratometer? Plans?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: miloman on February 27, 2015, 09:42:01 PM
This is the first time I've posted photos so I hope they are attached. This is my "Chicago Express", model not yet finished. I still need to do "some" work on the front end, rigging, etc., etc. It certainly would never win any static judging contest but hopefully my building skills are improving. The (totally fictional) story behind the plane is as follows: "Two WW1 pilots have been awarded a mail contract on the condition they secure an airplane within a month. They know there are a few surplus SE.5a's around so they purchase one. They get the mail contract and are so successful that they eventually build their fleet to ten planes. Their descendants successfully continue building the business and eventually rename it FedEx!"

I finally found a way (that works for me) to attach the landing gear to the plane. I added two balsa strips (port to starboard) to the proper locations before covering the plane. I then slit small openings in the balsa and added a small magnet on top of the balsa but enclosed in the plane. The magnets hold each of the struts but now the landing gear can be easily removed and reattached. I used small black drinking straws to cover the struts.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: miloman on February 27, 2015, 10:15:51 PM
I guess the other photos didn't make my original post…… Milo


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rick121x on February 27, 2015, 11:40:15 PM
Milo: What a truly beautiful treatment of a model plane... and with a story to boot! I love it

Richard Ranney


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on February 28, 2015, 03:20:38 AM
Aerographics Firefly build thread in free flight scale forum


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on February 28, 2015, 04:17:46 AM
Milo, that is so very very nice.  A truly well produced model aeroplane.

And the Firefly, Bear, reminds me that I need the kit badly!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on February 28, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
Aerographics Firefly build thread in free flight scale forum

Is that a DLG hiding under that tarp?

:)

-Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on February 28, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
Correction:  The model is a Modified Stratometer, NOT Stratosphere.  I'm not sure why I want to confuse the two, but I do.  Like most models, the pictures hide a lot of mistakes.  The thing looks like it can hold a ton of rubber, but I want to get a feel for the flight characteristics before I start stepping it up.  I'll probably also add a DT device before I get carried away, too.

Justin

Justin,
Nice set of aircraft.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on February 28, 2015, 06:14:18 PM
What's the size on the Stratometer? Plans?
OneArm,
The Stratometer has a 36" wingspan and was designed for Class "C" Stick.
The plan is available from the AMA plans service for $5.00.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BEAR on March 01, 2015, 04:21:35 AM
Aerographics Firefly build thread in free flight scale forum

Is that a DLG hiding under that tarp?

:)

-Dave

No its an Elf 2 channel dlg glider 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 01, 2015, 04:14:19 PM
A Guillows Fairchild


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 01, 2015, 05:22:00 PM
Not bad bill. I like the sheen on the tissue.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: atesus on March 02, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
Nice one Bill, I love the lines of the F24.

My latest is not exactly my creation, it would probably pass as an ARF assembly. I received a wing and a slightly modified tail group and a front-end for an Up Shot Mulvihill from a club member who no longer flies free flight. I then received the fuselage from another club member, the designer George Schroedter's son, Marty Schroedter. Probably the neatest part of the story is that the fuselage was built by George himself 8). All I had to do was to cover the fuse, make some repairs and install the timer. So far I was able to test it up to 1/3 of the max torque and flies pretty well.

http://youtu.be/kB3sIiZZ6hU

--Ates


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on March 03, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
Hurricane and P-40 waiting to be finished
(http://i.imgur.com/MxDBTPs.jpg)

And the bones of my Albatross DVa.
(http://i.imgur.com/UH75IHM.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: miloman on March 03, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
Wettle; what type of silver covering are you using? Both planes look great!!! I'd love to see the Albatros..... Milo


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on March 03, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
Wettle; what type of silver covering are you using? Both planes look great!!! I'd love to see the Albatros..... Milo

EasyBuilt silver tissue. It looks nice, but does not want to shrink properly with the glue stick method. Which can make curves really fun.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on March 04, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Yes,
They do look nice!
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on March 05, 2015, 07:34:54 AM
Nice one Bill, I love the lines of the F24.

My latest is not exactly my creation, it would probably pass as an ARF assembly. I received a wing and a slightly modified tail group and a front-end for an Up Shot Mulvihill from a club member who no longer flies free flight. I then received the fuselage from another club member, the designer George Schroedter's son, Marty Schroedter. Probably the neatest part of the story is that the fuselage was built by George himself 8). All I had to do was to cover the fuse, make some repairs and install the timer. So far I was able to test it up to 1/3 of the max torque and flies pretty well.

--Ates

Ates:
Beautiful airplane and nice video. I lived in NorCal in the mid 1990s and spent some time at Waegell ... I haven't been back to NorCal (or Waegell) since leaving in '97. Thanks for the video, brought back some nice memories.

Those are some wiiiiide circles that it makes in the sky!

Cheers-
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 17, 2015, 01:09:13 PM
A RAFF V. 66g, mylar/modelspan fuse, the rest Esaki. Tomy timer, curly tailplane


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 19, 2015, 06:01:37 PM
A KK Caprice. Surprising how light these can be if not using kit wood!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 24, 2015, 03:46:55 AM
A Veron Fury, hopefully for Interscale KS. I started late Friday evening but took Sunday out to go flying; incidentally my previous Guillows Fairchild went extremely well on 6 long strands of 1/8" SS
So far I don't think I have made any deviations from the plan, unlike my previous efforts! The instructions infer a light spray of silver, so what the implications of that are, I don't know.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 24, 2015, 07:10:40 PM
You're on a roll there Bill ;D Neat work.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 26, 2015, 10:58:30 AM
A KK Auster Arrow. The scheme and markings are spurious, but then so is the accuracy. I shall probably chop a couple of inches off the silly UC. If doing one. I recommend putting the spar on top!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Flyguy on March 26, 2015, 11:32:08 AM
Beautiful Bill, as usual, you also have really nice color schemes on your planes (I might steal a few! color schemes that is, not planes). I thought I was doing a lot of building, but you've got an incredible fleet going, your workshop or garage must be like a candy store! Larry


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 11, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
Finally built a new fuselage for my 'Ellipsis230' to replace that which vaporised last July when a soldered joint failed on the shaft.   This one is silver soldered.....

Weighs 80 grms with tracker.  Will carry 50 gms of rubber initially, may well go up to 60 gms


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 11, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
Gliders are such graceful flying machines .. usually.

But then there's the clumsy near-ugly "Walthew" beginners A/2 glider from the '50s, as reduced to 36" span for bungee launch.

Somebody has to love it.  I'm trying my best....



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 11, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
Its cute Jim - that is ugly but interesting ;D

The Elipsis looks neat.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: climber on April 11, 2015, 10:01:45 PM
Beautifully done!  I'm sure they'll fly like champs!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: steveair2 on April 11, 2015, 11:08:14 PM
Applehoney,  That Ellipsis 230 looks great.  I like your glider too. Is there a plan or kit available for the Ellipsis 230?

Thanks,
Steve


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 12, 2015, 12:22:40 AM
Steve, never a kit!   John O'Sullivan kindly drew a CAD  plan up for me but I'd rather have the thing in the air and well flown before I'd feel comfortable sharing the drawing.  Its predecessor of some years ago had a shorter 'square' fuselage and was very reliable - won a dawn event at about six minutes -  but I blew the original fuselage of this version before having it evaluated. Remind me in 5-6 months if still interested!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: steveair2 on April 12, 2015, 12:27:59 AM
Thanks for the information.  I found a plan in the gallery called the Elgar P-30 by Rich Wegener.   It has the elliptical wings I like.  I might build that one. Still undecided.

Thanks,


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYBOY49 on April 12, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
Jim,

I love that simple glider that you have in 36" W.S.  It has been on my 'TO BUILD LIST' for some  time.  But, haven't gotten around to have it re-sized to 36".  Any chance that you have a sharable plan?

What I'm currently working on is a 36" Cadet.  I had your plan taken to a copy shop and re-sized to 36".

Inna mail is a 36" laser cut Frog Wren from Bob Holman.  I failed to order sheets of his gussets in several sizes.  So, guess I'll hafta make another order for some thing from him. 'Cuz they are only $1.00 a sheet of 100 if ordered with another kit.

Van...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: applehoney on April 12, 2015, 06:41:39 PM
Van - I ordered the plan from Deryck Scott, reduced to about 36"

I'm kind of busy with family, etc. right now and not likely to see a copy shop for at least a couple of weeks - maybe more; how about I mail it for you to copy and return?  If that's OK email me your postal address to  jjmoseley@look.ca 

I had no interest in the sheets of gussets - no use to me.  All joints would have to be exactly at 90 degrees; my building is not that precise so I prefer to cut and custom fit my own gussets... lol

Jim




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
A Veron Fury for the 2015 Indoor Kit Scale...oh.
Lettering font courtesy of Atesus a couple of hours ago


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rich Moore on April 21, 2015, 04:07:00 PM
Very nice. 1st one ready for 2016 then? Have you dared weigh it yet?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
Very nice. 1st one ready for 2016 then? Have you dared weigh it yet?
It's 34g - no idea if that's reasonable. No ballast will be needed though.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rich Moore on April 21, 2015, 05:05:27 PM
I think mine is 40g including the rubber. It is quite a woody model. I don't know if the silver tissue I used is heavy, but I don't think I could have built it any lighter (although I did need a bit of Plasticene) and it flies OK.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dave Andreski on April 21, 2015, 05:46:19 PM
A Veron Fury for the 2015 Indoor Kit Scale...oh.
Lettering font courtesy of Atesus a couple of hours ago

Bill,
Another great Model and covering job!
Sorry if I missed it but do you use banana oil or nitrate dope?
Thanks much.
Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on April 27, 2015, 11:41:52 PM
Posted this in the outdoor scale forum too. Guillows Bird Dog, chalked white Esaki with colored tissue trim. 26g with rubber. Went for the well-used look for this one!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 28, 2015, 02:04:11 AM
Quote from: billdennis747 link=topic=11333.msg163990#msg163990 date=142964
Sorry if I missed it but do you use banana oil or nitrate dope?
Thanks much.
Dave
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Hi Dave -  apologies for missing your post. It's just non-shrinking nitrate, three coats on Esaki.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 28, 2015, 02:09:03 AM
Posted this in the outdoor scale forum too. Guillows Bird Dog, chalked white Esaki with colored tissue trim. 26g with rubber. Went for the well-used look for this one!
I like that. My Guillows Fairchild is 40g and flies away.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on May 22, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
A Dart Kitten from the old Aeromodeller plan, 10% bigger. Dave Banks 0.5cc diesel. It took three days to make but three years to add the windscreen. Will try it tomorrow. At least the Humbrol red is nearly dry.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 02, 2015, 11:13:34 AM
A Fokker DVII. Aeromodeller plan + 10% = 30". Mills .75. No dihedral of course.
If it flies this weekend, it gets guns, engine and pilot.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on June 02, 2015, 12:20:07 PM
That's nice. I like the scheme and lozenges. Hand painted?
Having finally started to come round to the idea of not needing added dihedral I took a knife to the wing joints of my similarly schemed (but only in tissue) Albatros DIII yesterday in a bid to flatten the wings. It has a bit less than before, but without taking the wings right off and re-rigging, it wouldn't give it all up.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on June 02, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Really Nice Bill.

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 02, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
That's nice. I like the scheme and lozenges. Hand painted?
No, my lozenge-painting days are over. It's printed paper left over from the Hannover


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on June 05, 2015, 12:53:39 PM
 ;D ;D  have just completed a GAR  Ki 61 1-A weigh is around 32 grams and plane may need wee bit of weight in nose to balance pics to follow when i get the plane balanced and fiddley bits on.

jim  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on June 05, 2015, 03:53:54 PM
Jim I hope you get the pictures here soon.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on June 06, 2015, 07:19:34 PM
 ;D  here they are.  i've tested the model and se flies in a very tight circle (torque?) so maybe a smaller rubber (3/16 rather than 2 x 1/8) or 8 inch prop rather than 7

Any comments?

Jim ???


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 11, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
it looks good Jim. In my humble opinion I would not go to a larger prop and perhaps use the 3/16 rubber, assuming there are no unwanted twists in the wing.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: weetle on June 11, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
The workshop was getting full and dirty, so I had to move stuff to clean up. Maybe I should finish a model.

(http://i.imgur.com/ouOOccm.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 12, 2015, 02:42:03 AM
Nice collection W. Surely you can't wwit to see them flying ;D

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on June 16, 2015, 01:52:21 AM
I lately finished my GeeBee R2 from the Pres Bruning plan.
I had a thread running on SFA, but since it is no more, I thought to post the result here.

Weight is a bit to high with 15g, but it was the best I could do...
I tossed it once to see if she is banking to one side. This seems not to be the case.
At the moment, I am waiting for calm weather to start the flight trimming.
The wheels are attached with magnets to avoid any damage on a hard landing.

I will keep you informed on the trimming phase...

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on June 16, 2015, 03:28:19 AM
  Very neat Roman, good luck with it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on June 16, 2015, 04:12:10 AM
Yes, really nice. Looking forward to the flying shots!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on June 16, 2015, 01:56:39 PM
Just finished my little own design Short Tucano, based on the construction style of the Frog Junior series. Wing span is 11.5" and it weighs just under 8g. Construction is all sheet 1/32 and light block balsa. There's a full build thread on Small Flying Arts here: http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1420316988/0

Jon

Jon:
Have you been able to get the plans together? I'm interested...

-Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: bcarter1234 on June 17, 2015, 09:35:30 AM
Roman,

I'm definitely anticipating the flight testing. I used the Pres Bruning's plan to build the pink foam GeeBee. I love the looks of it and may be tempted into a stick and tissue version if your flies well. Great job. It is lovely.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rick121x on June 17, 2015, 11:10:48 AM
One of my better efforts: The motor was a very hot DIY and I just wasn't quite ready for the demands she placed on my flying skills. So it's not around anymore.  :o  The wing is made of one inch insulation foam from the Home Depot... what a mess that was in the making. Using a very rough wood working file, about six teeth per inch! ...foam dust all over the neighborhood! But it turned out to be an attention getter!  ...36 inch wingspan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on June 17, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Beautiful craftsmanship Roman! Very well done.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 17, 2015, 07:17:20 PM
nicely finished R2 Roman. actually its a wonder it hasn't been a subject for the "sort of Bostonian' build thread. It may be fun to trim. your little RC r2 looks interesting Rick and I can imagine it being a bit twitchy.
john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on June 18, 2015, 03:51:35 AM
A real masterpiece, Roman. If it fly's as it looks it will be a winner.
How did you do the white 7::11 on the pink surface??? Is it printed on white paper?

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on June 18, 2015, 04:30:58 AM
Thanks, let's hope that I can teach this beast to fly...

John, I havent measured it, but you could be right, the imaginary "bostonian brick" would fit into this fuselage ;D

Urs, its white tissue with some white colour on it to make it more opaque. The digits are cut out with a knife and glued on the red tissue.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on June 18, 2015, 04:43:55 AM
.....some white colour on it to make it more opaque.....

Roman, what do you mean, did you spray some white on the {already white} paper? Or chalk?
I was thinking to paint the paper with a white marker pen and then cut out the lettering.

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 04, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
 8)  with reference to my GAR TONY, i've found the sweet spot.  the plane was doing a half soprial and then crashing.  i first fooled around with the power and also with the balance but no luck. ??? :(.  then i decided lets get those wings level with a wee bit o weight on the tip. sure enough, that fixed the problem.  i now need to check the tissue for loose connections and lock everything down and that will give me a great flyer.

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 04, 2015, 07:43:29 PM
Thank You for sharing that trim tip. I had to do the same thing to make my Lockheed Orion behave just last weekend. It sure does make the effort seem worthwhile.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 04, 2015, 11:31:48 PM
Nearly finished with an old Comet (1963) Curtiss Robin kit I bought on Ebay.  It has a 15 1/8" wingspan complete with Heavy Lumber.  I have often read about the hard balsa used in the old kits and now I believe.  Check out the strength of the kit wood in the second photo.  Never the less, I used most of the wood from the kit.  I did add some holes in the trailing edge to lighten things a bit and replaced the strip wood with balsa from my stock.  Can't say enough about the Formula 560 canopy glue.  It goes on white and magically disappears when dry.  I have all the pieces built and coated with one application of 50/50 EZ Dope.  I am still trying figure out how to get the EZ dope to not blotch the tissue.  It did fine on the red domestic tissue on the fuselage, but like before I am not happy with the way it went on the Japanese tissue on the wing.  Has anyone come across the right method of brushing the EZ dope ?   The last pic shows the nightmare strut installation still ahead.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 05, 2015, 03:21:19 AM
Bob check out this thread   http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=17765.0

It needs a special technique -  but is able to produce good results.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on July 05, 2015, 11:34:32 AM
Thanks OZPAF.........good info on the link you provided


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on July 17, 2015, 01:06:08 AM
This one all began because I had never built a sliced-rib wing and wanted to give it a try. The idea was to build a small stick type model that could fly in the living room, but things quickly got out of hand.

After the basic wing was built I decided to go with a profile fuselage rather than a plain stick just to add a little flair. At that point the slope became quite steep and rather slick...

The result is a pseudo-scale model of an early "home built" that may have been a predecessor to things like the Pietenpol or Luton Minor. I still have some rigging to add, and perhaps a few more fiddly bits here and there. I've also got a start on a blue foam pilot, he of steely nerve, steady hand and light weight! ;D

Span is 12", weight is 8 grams with one loop of 1/16 tan. Minwax wood stain on the fuse, the tissue is white esaki chalked to look like old linen. The engine is all balsa with ally tubes for exhausts and carb intake.

It is plenty strong enough for outdoors, but so far flying has been limited to a few circuits of the "patch" (living room).

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 19, 2015, 08:19:07 PM
It does have a 30ish homebuilt charisma Mike. Looks fun.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 21, 2015, 03:25:22 AM
Just finished my little own design Short Tucano, based on the construction style of the Frog Junior series. Wing span is 11.5" and it weighs just under 8g. Construction is all sheet 1/32 and light block balsa. There's a full build thread on Small Flying Arts here: http://www.smallflyingartsforum.com/YaBB.pl?num=1420316988/0

Jon

Jon:
Have you been able to get the plans together? I'm interested...

-Dave


Hi Dave, I haven't I'm afraid, I've hardly touched a model in a few months because I've been refitting my boat :/ away sailing for a few weeks now. At the moment all I have is scans of the original drawings but I probably will tidy them up at some point... Especially as the SFA thread is now gone :(


Love the Geebee Roman!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on July 21, 2015, 07:54:20 AM
Urs, sorry for not answering sooner...
Yes, white acrylic colours on "normal" white esaki. Then glued on the red esaki.

Jon, same here, it's to hot and nice this summer. I will return to the desk or to the field as soon as it cools down a bit.
Creeping slowli on my current project....

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 26, 2015, 02:37:24 PM
Just finishing this 22" Tiger Moth for a review of the Avetek kit (NZ) in Aeromodeller. Very nice.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 27, 2015, 03:07:33 PM
Now stuck together. Just needs rigging, prop, tail struts.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on July 27, 2015, 03:14:26 PM
Bill, That's a beautiful airplane.  It looks like it is just itching to fly.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 27, 2015, 04:15:16 PM
Bill, That's a beautiful airplane.  It looks like it is just itching to fly.  Caley
Thanks Caley. Yes, it feels like it will go. But it's been windy for ever.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cd_webb on August 08, 2015, 03:26:43 PM
Just finished this High Performance Sportster today. I beefed up the lower longerons to band the wing on as the plan said, but in the end, decided to build wing mount rails with the necessary incidence built in. Once I get the CG dialed in, I'll glue those in place. No DT even though I knew better. It needed to be a pop up wing, but not knowing where it would be located in the end, I just said to heck with it.

Empty weight is 25 grams, still needing to add prop ballast.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on August 08, 2015, 05:10:51 PM
Very nice CD.  You built a great looking model.  But..., no D/T?  I hope it doesn't get a mind of its own and fly away.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cd_webb on August 08, 2015, 06:42:10 PM
Thanks, Caley! It was a quick build. If it wanders off, another one won't take long. There are just so many others I want to try too. I won't cry long. ;)

Poured lead for the first time a few minutes ago. It's as balanced as I can get it with about 2 grams of lead.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on August 08, 2015, 07:33:19 PM
CD,  That's a pretty nose and prop assembly.  If and when I ever build my Old Timer Wakefield, I hope I can do as nice of work as you have there.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on August 08, 2015, 08:15:40 PM
Ref #816-#818.

cdw,
Another example of your excellent craftsmanship but please get rid of those monster rubber bands before you break something!  I know they are probably just for the photographs (again beautifully taken) but I suggest about a quarter of the thickness and two of them in place of each one so that if one breaks the other gets you safely home.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cd_webb on August 08, 2015, 08:54:25 PM
Point taken, they were what I had on hand. Thank you for the nice words!

David


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 10, 2015, 12:48:42 PM
Nearly finished with a 12" wing span old Comet Spad kit I bought on ebay.  I have made a few mod's that include:  Reshaping top wing, added movable (foam) ailerons and rudder, used 5/16" dihedral and 2 deg incidence on both wings.  The black marks on the wings are small pieces of foam where the wood wing struts will attach.  The last photo also shows the added scalloping to the wings and tail feathers.  I used some kit wood and some wood from my stock.  Weight as shown is 6 grams so the final product does not promise to be a light weight.  Final sanding my improve things a little.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: jym6aw6 on August 10, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
Nice bones pix, Bob. She's gonna be a beauty when finished  :) .

Hopefully it won't require a lot of nose weight.

I've never covered a wing with a scalloped T.E. so will be following your tissue method when you get to that point. Looks difficult, but maybe it's not as bad as I think  ;D .

Jim (6aw6)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: bcarter1234 on August 12, 2015, 07:15:07 PM
I lately finished my GeeBee R2 from the Pres Bruning plan.
I had a thread running on SFA, but since it is no more, I thought to post the result here.

Weight is a bit to high with 15g, but it was the best I could do...
I tossed it once to see if she is banking to one side. This seems not to be the case.
At the moment, I am waiting for calm weather to start the flight trimming.
The wheels are attached with magnets to avoid any damage on a hard landing.

I will keep you informed on the trimming phase...

Roman

Roman,

Have you had an opportunity to fly yet? I'm really curious about this one.

Take care,

Brent


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on August 13, 2015, 12:41:55 AM
Brent, yes I started some first trimming. It looks not bad, but I am not there yet.
It was hot and windy for quite some time. Hope that I can go on as soon as possible.
I was afraid of an excessive bank to the left. But it seems to be controllable. I installed an adjustable nose button to be able to adjust it on the field.

I will post news and some pics as soon as possible.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 13, 2015, 02:04:27 PM
Nice bones pix, Bob. She's gonna be a beauty when finished  :) .

Hopefully it won't require a lot of nose weight.

I've never covered a wing with a scalloped T.E. so will be following your tissue method when you get to that point. Looks difficult, but maybe it's not as bad as I think  ;D .

Jim (6aw6)

Jim,

This is my first WW1 Bipe and hence my first attempt at covering a scalloped trailing edge.  I found it similar to any other edge covering in that I wet my finger with thinned white glue and roll the tissue over the edge until it looks smooth.   The color scheme shown is from an internet search and I liked it because I wanted to have a go at drawing a tiny little red goose!

Bob

PS:  In my typical distracted manner, I reversed the red and blue color on the stab and will be changing it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on August 14, 2015, 12:55:34 AM
Bob, looking god.
Such mistakes happen a lot to me.... I am happy that I am not the only one ;D

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on August 14, 2015, 01:04:23 AM
Definitely some nice work.  I built a jumbo Moraine Saulnier type N, and basically created my own air force markings.  Part are British, and the other markings French.  But I don't care.  I like it.  If I only had the courage to glide test it, let alone try flying it.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 17, 2015, 02:31:24 PM
I guess I wasn't as distracted as I thought.  I colored the stab after looking at the Comet box art that showed Red White then Blue.  Then I noticed that the internet pics showed Blue White then Red.  It appears the Spad is ambidextrous. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: HoveToo on August 18, 2015, 04:36:07 AM
Bob,
The blue first colours are for the French air force, the US and Royal Flying Corps Spads have red first. If you want to get into the spirit of the era I recommend reading Winged Victory by V.M. Yeates which although written as a novel is based upon the authors experiences flying in WW1. It is very English but then its accurate for the events described. I obtained a copy for my kindle for about $1.50.

Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on August 18, 2015, 07:02:52 AM
That is a nice Spad.  Very appealing aeroplane.  Certainly on my to do list and might now move it up a few notches seeing yours.

I to can endorse the reference to V M Yeates book. Superbly written and ranks alongside Richard Hillary's "Last Enemy".

Very sad in a way because Yeates died quite not long after he had completed the book. His wife survived him for quite a time but never really got any benefit from the sales.  It was much sought after during WWII by pilots apparently as used copies went for as much as £5 which was a weeks wages for some aircrew!

I have also seen a few caught out by the fin flash colouring too.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 18, 2015, 10:44:40 AM
Thanks for the information David and Ian...........this is another reason I like this site.  Not only do I get good advice on building the aircraft I can learn a little history to boot.  I truly appreciate your taking the time to give a little background on the aircraft.  I was hesitate to try a bi-plane (especially at 12" wingspan) but I have grown to like it.  There is something to the historical look of them.  I am at the point of wishing I had it fully covered and doped because I can't wait to add the little gun!   I also have a Jenny (Sterling Peanut) kit purchased on ebay that is beckoning me to start.

Bob


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on August 19, 2015, 06:34:56 AM
Finally got my P-30 "Pee Wee" to the flying stage (also in the P-30 thread).  A couple of very low power tests on a very breezy day were promising, even tho the model got bounced around a lot - our field has had a lot of un-characteristic turbulence lately, preventing flying from even the rc group.

I ended up having to add a bit of weight to the TAIL of the model (it's the partially built version), mainly due to using mylar for the stab/fin covering (< 1gram).  It seems to still be a bit nose heavy but may only need a small shim at the stab TE.

Weather has stabilized and not so hot, but the humidity today (at the moment) is way too high.  It's supposed to dry out by late this PM and continue with very light breezes thru Saturday, so I may get to do some serious trimming done.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on August 31, 2015, 11:14:20 AM
A little more progress on the Spad.  I mistakenly referred to a little red goose in an earlier post.  I meant little red swan.  Regardless of what it is, it is small !  I reduced a copy of it down to about a 1/2" height, traced it on a piece of doped red tissue, cut it out with the trusted no 11 blade and then applied it to the fuselage with a little thinned dope.  Also tried something new for me on the stab in that I installed it to pivot in an enlarged slot to allow a little up or down adjustment.  I have used hinges elevators on my peanut scales in the past, but this is the first one where the entire stab pivots.  I hardened the wood at the front of the stab with super glue and then installed two pieces of pin for it to pivot up and down on.  My thought is that by using two pins it will keep the stab from rotating laterally but still allow it to move up and down.  I plan to use a small piece of foam to set the angle of attack. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 08, 2015, 09:59:04 AM
 ;D.  hi cloudsters.I am Working onm the Comet CORSAIR at 20 inches and will be submitting the buils to the Maxecuters as soon as it is finished.

JIM ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on September 14, 2015, 12:37:22 PM
Started some of the detailing on the Spad.  Couple of guns, exhaust pipe and foam wheels.  I am using two small magnets to hold the nose plug in place and since a preliminary balance said I needed 2.5 grams in the nose, the magnets don't really represent extra weight as they along with the metal strips came in a just under 2 grams.  I wish I had installed the windshield before attaching the top wing.  It is gonna be difficult to attach it now.  Live and learn.  This is my first bipe.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 14, 2015, 01:40:38 PM
 ;D  here is my comet corsair at 20 inches. i have test flown it and it works.  the full build will appear in an upcoming maxecuter issue


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on September 20, 2015, 05:18:04 AM
I've been poking away at this A-26 INVADER from the Comet plan for the past week or so, while waiting for a lull in the weather.  I've wanted to do this one again, since the last one (original Comet kit) got scrunched during my move to this apartment - one of three models that the packers got to before I was able to get it into my car >:(.

This one is considerably lighter @ 24.8 grams as shown in the last photo, even tho "back then" I felt that the bones (it was ready for covering) was quite reasonable.  I've kept pretty close to the original plan, just modifying the airfoil to a "sorta" Clark "Y" (chopped off the lower portion at the bottom of the fish-mouth).  We'll see if it works...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on September 20, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
Pete, Great looking set of bones.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on September 20, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
Just completed the SKYRAIDER
She shows up in another sect. of HPA


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: calgoddard on September 20, 2015, 01:34:38 PM
Wow Mike.  You built a gorgeous model! The details are incredible, including the four-bladed prop.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on September 20, 2015, 03:20:45 PM
Mike, That is beautiful.  Wonderful covering and details.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 24, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
My latest build cover here with Brent's Connie is my Lockheed Starliner 1649 here on HPA Free Flight Scale.  Gotta get her into the air.
Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on September 24, 2015, 12:58:06 PM
That's totally awesome.  I'm sure it will fly as good as it looks.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hillsboro Bob on September 24, 2015, 01:48:46 PM
Just completed the SKYRAIDER
She shows up in another sect. of HPA
I followed your Skyraider build Mike..and took many many notes.  I plan to use your technique on a Comet P38 I bought on Ebay.  Your Skyraider is an fantastic example of the scale look that is proud to be a model.  I hope I don't offend the superb builders on HPA (including you Mike) when I say that I like a great model that still tells you it is stick and tissue over museum scale types.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pat D on November 04, 2015, 04:06:13 PM
Here is my peck polymers one night 28 hybrid

it flies rubber with a gizmo geezer and balanced prop, the second configuration is Co2 with a GM 73 contest engine which is interchangeable

the rubber bands allow me to move the wing back and forward to fix CG

Viscous DT also fitted

Real nice flier too


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on November 11, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
Just about ready to cover a Veron Tiger Moth shown here. Third in the Veron series for me starting with the Comper Swift (inspired by Mike Stuart's great website build demonstration). I found I had started the Bebe Jodel to go with the prop I had carved out of pine. Having a collection of attractive plans ready and waiting is too much of a temptation. Both of these are trimmed and fly pretty well - only about 15s so far but lots of scope for longer motors when the warm weather returns.

I am beginning to get the hang of these delicate structures. I know there are much more delicate ones but these are a lot more fragile than I am used to. It is a challenge holding them without crushing them. There certainly is a huge amount of inspiration available on this site.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 11, 2015, 03:07:44 PM
Bill

You've built some real beauts there - there's something poetic about clear tissue covering and minimal extra tissue/detail.

And I agree, this site and ffscale are really inspirational!

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on November 11, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
Love the covering job on your models Bill.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on November 12, 2015, 07:38:35 AM
That's very kind John - although I took the pictures from the best angles to hide some wrinkly areas!

I printed the lettering onto white tissue with an inkjet printer and printed blocks of purple and cut it up for trim on the Swift as I hadn't got any purple tissue. That was following a tip on this forum about attaching the tissue to print paper using photo-mount spray which worked a treat. The red trim on the Jodel is domestic tissue which didn't take the curvature on the wing so well.

Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: modler on February 20, 2016, 12:38:59 PM
Hi, I just came across this thread and wanted to share my Frog Linnet. It's still in the glide trim stage waiting for calm air. (Gusting to 48 mph yesterday).
Bill G.  :o


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: crashcaley on February 20, 2016, 01:45:34 PM
Wonderful looking model.  I really love the pilot.  Hope things calm down for you so you can get it flying.  Caley


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: modler on February 21, 2016, 02:17:10 PM
Thanks Crash, it's from the paper pilot sheet. http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=8284&mode=search

Bill G.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 06, 2016, 07:51:32 PM
Regarding my redrawn and slightly modified Frog Linnet.
  I was really interested in modler's Frog Linnet. However, I didn't like all the wood. I redesigned the wing LE to be a bit more like the KK Elf and a bit of change with the center section. The rest is standard stick & tissue construction. I changed the superstructure, although I did both on the plan. I intended it for a model building class. It took 1 week to do the bones, 1 week to cover and the 3rd week to decorate so that I could show the progress to my class as it went along. The final decorations are to make it look more like a Me 110. The canopy is folded plastic sheet glued together with Aleene's Tacky glue and decorated with strips of black tissue. The yellow was 2 sheets of tissue pre-stretched on a frame and painted with clear. Then I ran it through my HP printer at "best print quality" without a backing sheet to print the German markings. The finish is "Future" mixed 1:3 with polyproylene alcohol. All up weight without rubber is 17.6 grams and the balance point without extra weight is just forward of 50% of wing chord. Flights will await weather and opportunity.
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 07, 2016, 12:07:31 AM
That's pretty neat PB.
Quote
The yellow was 2 sheets of tissue pre-stretched on a frame and painted with clear. Then I ran it through my HP printer at "best print quality" without a backing sheet to print the German markings. 

The tissue doesn't stretch or distort without the backing paper PB? Sounds great if that works. What printer di you use?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 07, 2016, 02:54:36 AM
I have an HP Officejet 6700. I found that with tissue, if I printed at normal print quality then the printer shakes too much and the ink smears. But with the high-quality print, there is almost no shake, and no smearing. I thought that the doubled tissue would be thick enough to go through without a backing and I was right. The build for the Linnet is at http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1455301349/4
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: modler on March 07, 2016, 10:21:59 AM
Mine came out at 41 gms without rubber. 10 gms of clay to balance that sheet tail!  :'(

Bill.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 07, 2016, 10:41:13 AM
Your model will hold up to crashes and the handling of small children far better than mine will.
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on April 08, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
So, I retired last year and started building rubber band FF again.

This is my latest, Stearman PT 17. It was built from scratch from the Sterling plans downloaded from HPA.
It came in at 60 grams. I hinged the ailerons and rudder which made trimming easier. Also. its been fun printing on tissue I think it makes the models look pretty cool.

I got couple flights in before weather went to crap here again and it flew real nice.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 08, 2016, 07:28:34 PM
   Very neat! thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 08, 2016, 07:36:50 PM
That's a nice PT 17 Cman. How long have you been out of modelling?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on April 08, 2016, 09:24:58 PM
0h man, been out of it for probably 40 years or so.

that makes me seem old!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 10, 2016, 07:11:17 PM
Well you certainly didn't forget :) That's a neat covering job.

Happy flying
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: sweepettelee on April 10, 2016, 10:18:56 PM
Yes Cman, it seems you did not lose your chops during your layoff, cause that Stearman looks a treat!
(Reminder to self: go to shop and BUILD SOMETHING... :-[ ::))


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2016, 07:43:15 AM
A Bucker Jungmann, rubber, 30". About 8oz, 5oz/sqft. Just needs rigging, and a few tiny pieces. The heat shrink tubing for the strut boots, as suggested by Ozpaf, worked a treat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Starduster on April 21, 2016, 07:48:11 AM
That Bucker is magnificent! I am always in awe of you scale guys. I can only dream of doing work like that. the Jungman has always been one of my favorite airplanes.

How about a little more detail about the build?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2016, 08:00:48 AM

How about a little more detail about the build?
Thank you. I reduced the diesel plan by Eric Coates to 30" and just winged it, using what I thought were suitable rubber sizes for wood etc. I knew it would need no nose nose ballast, which is always a pitfall for me with rubber models. The lower wings mount on carbon rods, the top just locate, struts fix the dihedral. Cellulose finish, pro-skin cowlings. I hope it works!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Indoorflyer on April 21, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
Outstanding Bücker.  The strut boots look great!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2016, 04:10:22 PM
Thank you. The heat shrink tubing, which comes in all sizes, has a lot of scope if the mould can be removed. Things like exhaust stubs would be hollow and thin-walled


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on April 21, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
Boy that looks nice!

I'm not clear on what the heat shrink tubing was used for, do you have any close up photos?

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 21, 2016, 05:30:50 PM
Thanks Chris. My camera is incapable of close ups but if you look at pictures of Buckers, the ends of the struts and their mountings are enclosed in cone-shaped leather boots. I made up a plug the same as a strut, expanding outwards as per the boots. I then slipped on a length of black heat shrink, wafted it with the hot gun and pulled it off, and on to the real struts, trimming to match the wing surface.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffkiwi on April 21, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Nice work Bill-are you going to have the plan published?

 ChrisM
 'ffkiwi'


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 22, 2016, 02:55:32 AM
Thanks Chris, As I said, the model was built over Eric's original plan (reduced) with changes to wood sizes. Eric's models were accurate and I intend to fly this at our Nationals, if it works. I will try and give any further details in Aeromodeller at some stage
cheers
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on April 22, 2016, 04:51:22 AM
Looks lovely Bill - the Jungmann is pretty much the perfect rubber scale subject isn't it?  Look forwards to seeing it in action.

Mike S.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 22, 2016, 07:06:24 PM
The Jungmann looks very impressive Bill and I'm glad the heat shrink idea worked for you. I can't claim credit as I think I read of Bill Iserman using it for exhaust stubs as you mentioned.
Good luck with it.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 23, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
Just got this Keil Kraft Percival Provost to test gliding stage today and it looked fine.

It is the first time I have tried silver Esaki tissue and it worked well putting the shiny side down and flowing thinners through onto full strength dope. Fuselage was partly covered with dampened tissue for the double curvature areas (first time I have tried that). The roundels are Solartrim circles cut concentrically with springbows with a sharpened piano-wire blade. Canopy is a heat-shrunk lemonade bottle. It isn't very light but we will see how it flies when the weather co-operates. Not too sure about the empty cockpit but I decided to call it a day as it is.

I built a PSS Jet Provost a while ago which flies very well - there is a significance for me as my father worked on the design of both of these aircraft in the 50's and 60's.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 23, 2016, 04:07:16 PM
That looks really nice. I never have much luck cutting very small circles with compasses


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 23, 2016, 04:24:30 PM
Thanks Bill - I put a lot of effort into the sharpening process and cut around several times before trying to separate from the backing sheet. Even so the small red circles have quite a high reject rate.

Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on April 23, 2016, 06:15:30 PM
Nice finish Bill!
Ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on April 23, 2016, 06:23:41 PM
Bill...the Provost looks great.  What kind of prop button are you using? 
Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on April 23, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
Very nice covering Bill and using Solartrim for the roundels is clever.
Happy flying.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 24, 2016, 12:17:33 PM
Thanks very much - the prop is an Ikara from Mike Woodhouse - Free Flight Supplies. It comes as orange but I have painted it black.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 24, 2016, 12:19:16 PM
Sorry  - just realised I misread your message. The prop button is home made, turned out of brass.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 24, 2016, 12:21:59 PM
Thanks Ian - I am getting a bit more practice and learning a lot of tips from this forum.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on April 27, 2016, 11:20:58 AM
Thanks Bill,
Another skill in your arsenal.  Well done.  She's a beauty!
Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on April 27, 2016, 12:40:28 PM
That looks dead smart!  Well done!  :)

There's a video somewhere I recall of a real one flying at a Shuttleworth display a few years ago - a purposeful and agile looking aircraft!

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BillE on April 27, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
Thanks Jon
I will report how it flies, when the weather is suitable, and then you can decide whether to add it to your build list. The plan seems pretty good to me, amazingly all of the stringers lined up with the slots cut for them and the tail is pretty light.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on June 28, 2016, 11:42:02 AM
This thread hasn't had any posts since April? Well, here's the 3 most recent of mine. First is a Cloud Hound. Span 36" and weight is 75 grams without rubber. A bit heavier than I had hoped.

2nd is an FA Moth I call the Moth Hawk. The covering is meant to suggest a red tailed hawk. I want to see if the swallows that live around my field will chase it like they did my earlier ones covered in yellow and orange. My thinking is that they think the airplane is a hawk and are mobbing it.

3rd is my 2nd Phantom Fury. This one actually looks something like the plan, unlike my first one.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: faif2d on June 28, 2016, 11:50:37 AM
your Phantom Fury has made me start one of my own.  I am going to use 3/32 sticks instead of the 1/16 called out for the body.  I do not do small very well anymore.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on June 28, 2016, 04:29:25 PM
Your Phantom Fury has made me start one of my own.  I am going to use 3/32 sticks instead of the 1/16 called out for the body.  I do not do small very well anymore.
I did that on my first one and did hit one snag. I couldn't quite get the sticks to make the bends at the nose. I ended up squaring it off. It didn't look good.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: faif2d on June 28, 2016, 04:51:06 PM
Thanks for that tip.  I will either wet the sticks or make them out of 2 thinner ones.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on June 29, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
hey Bargle, what is that pattern on the fuselage of the Moth Hawk?
It looks pretty cool!

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on June 30, 2016, 07:56:38 AM
hey Bargle, what is that pattern on the fuselage of the Moth Hawk?
It looks pretty cool!

Chris
Chris, it was in a variety pack of domestic tissue I bought at either Michael's or Hobby Lobby a few years ago. It's just some decorative pattern. If you want, I'll post a scan of a section.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on July 05, 2016, 10:47:40 PM
Bargle that would be great.
meanwhile I'll look at michaels by my house.

Thanks


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on July 06, 2016, 07:36:38 AM
Here you go, Chris. Sorry about the wrinkles. It's my last sheet of it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 06, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
My experience shows that when a hawk appears all the other birds clear out since they don't want to be on the menu. Hawks win usually especially when there are two of them.
This thread hasn't had any posts since April? Well, here's the 3 most recent of mine. First is a Cloud Hound. Span 36" and weight is 75 grams without rubber. A bit heavier than I had hoped.

2nd is an FA Moth I call the Moth Hawk. The covering is meant to suggest a red tailed hawk. I want to see if the swallows that live around my field will chase it like they did my earlier ones covered in yellow and orange. My thinking is that they think the airplane is a hawk and are mobbing it.

3rd is my 2nd Phantom Fury. This one actually looks something like the plan, unlike my first one.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on July 06, 2016, 10:17:34 PM
Great, thanks Bargle.

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Bargle on July 07, 2016, 07:42:37 AM
My experience shows that when a hawk appears all the other birds clear out since they don't want to be on the menu. Hawks win usually especially when there are two of them.
In the area where I work, there are at least 3 hawks that hunt the fields there. Many times I've seen the hawks being chased by other birds. Most commonly by mockingbirds, but also by crows, swallows and 1 or 2 others I don't remember off-hand.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 08, 2016, 12:04:50 PM
 ::) ::) ::) ::) Could this be JONAH'S BIRTHDAY present (adult supervision required)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 08, 2016, 01:12:38 PM
A semi scale Halberstadt DII.  1/12, 30", o.5cc Banks Mills diesel.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffkiwi on July 08, 2016, 05:22:49 PM
Very nice Bill-will Aeromodeller be publishing it in due course?   I take it you are aware of the NZ based D-IV replica? see : /www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOTxPEPyEiw. Useful for color documentation if nothing else

 ChrisM
 'ffkiwi'



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on July 08, 2016, 08:38:36 PM
OH come on Bill, don't be so stingy with the photos, wish you had designed he tailplane on the original! Very neat.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 09, 2016, 04:32:53 AM
Thanks Dave and Chris. I'm covering the thing now so I'll post a picture when it's done. I just built it over an enlarged 3 view and made it up as I went along.  I have enlarged the tail too much and it looks very wrong,  certainly relative to the tiny rudder. I've done one before with scale tail and it didn't work at all. May modify later.
That DIV looks to have a better tailplane
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on July 09, 2016, 07:26:05 AM
Is the tailplane any bigger on the IV? At any rate it looks to have less dihedral than the earlier Halberstadts.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 09, 2016, 07:33:50 AM
Pete, there is only one photo of the IV. The separate elevators are joined across so it will have more area. The replica seems to be underhedralled


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffkiwi on July 09, 2016, 03:48:30 PM
There are plenty of photos of the D-IV replica on the 'net-I merely posted a few I had on file. I've been very tempted to build Bill's Peanut D-II as the D-IV replica-documentation would be a lot easier...

  ChrisM
  'ffkiwi'


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 09, 2016, 04:34:33 PM
Chris, that Peanut flies well but has a ceiling of 30 seconds in my hands. Nose weight - as ever.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on July 09, 2016, 05:47:59 PM
Nice one Bill! Lovely subject.

Cheers,

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 13, 2016, 09:37:47 AM
All painted. There will be a hiatus while I figure out how to fix the rudder so I can adjust it. It's Modelspan tissue and so will become full of holes in short order. Thus far, 8oz so it should be under 10, which will mean 5oz/sq ft. I will make an engine and gun if it flies.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on July 14, 2016, 03:53:26 AM
Gee Bill, you don't seem to have followed the plan very well! ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 14, 2016, 04:40:37 AM
Hi Dave, yes I failed to unfold it fully  and that's what I ended up with.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 14, 2016, 02:37:07 PM
 ;D jonah's birthday present (PAGE 36) has been flight tested and is fine for back yard flying

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 14, 2016, 07:52:10 PM
Quote
Hi Dave, yes I failed to unfold it fully  and that's what I ended up with.
:)
Just as well you didn't build it inverted Bill.

That's a nice looking tramp jom - bet Jonah loves it.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on July 16, 2016, 06:52:25 PM
 ;D Jonah had his birthday today; cake, swimming at the beach, friends and family and at the end he got the plane.  could hardly wait to get it airborne

grand paw  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on July 16, 2016, 07:14:36 PM
My latest creation is a High Tech F1B with a molded carbon fiber skins (with Rohacell core). LDA airfoils (new from Brian Eggleston). Wing design is mine using 3D CAD models (Solidworks) and molds were CNC machined (using Huntsman 1400 blue tooling resin) by Adam Krawiec (Poland) and wings were produced through Stepan Stefanchuk's efforts (Ukraine) to my specifications.
First photo is my flying buddy Ladi Horak holding my model.\
First flights look very promising so far!


Tmat
- something different for HPA?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 16, 2016, 07:39:53 PM
Is that a full moulded wing Tony? Very impressive.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on July 17, 2016, 02:26:33 AM
Yes, fully molded wing.

Tmat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on July 17, 2016, 02:44:41 AM
Tony
Most impressive, and thanks for supplying a 3 view as well. I note the wing uses four 'foils from root to tip - one is more than enough for me ::) ;D. It looks as though the root continues to use the sorta Stanfoil flat section just after the leading edge. With the black carbon do you envisage any solar heating problems or were the wings cured at temperature?

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 17, 2016, 03:14:48 AM
That's an interesting development Tony. You should notice a fair jump in performance as we did with RC gliders.
Good luck with it.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Yak 52 on July 18, 2016, 01:00:15 PM
Thats pretty darn cool Tony!

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on July 24, 2016, 06:02:22 AM
Beautiful model and execution, Tony! If it fly's as it looks it must be a winner   ::)

Looking at the details it seems that the newly available light weight UD carbon tapes allow again to build full foam core, single layer covering with acceptable weight results. Food for thoughts.

One question about the tailplane section. If I understand right you use a thick, 8% section with a blunt nose, so not much camber (1,3%?). What is the reason and benefit from such an airfoil? A more linear response on AoA changes?

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on July 24, 2016, 10:01:49 PM
Tony
It looks as though the root continues to use the sorta Stanfoil flat section just after the leading edge. With the black carbon do you envisage any solar heating problems or were the wings cured at temperature?
Hi Peter,
Yes, all of the airfoils except for the extreme tip use the "Stanfoil" flat nose feature as well as a surface turbulator. Works well.
Wings were cured at temperature but I will be adding some color for visibility in the grass and sky.

Tmat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Tmat on July 24, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
One question about the tailplane section. If I understand right you use a thick, 8% section with a blunt nose, so not much camber (1,3%?). What is the reason and benefit from such an airfoil? A more linear response on AoA changes?
Urs
Thanks Urs. I have an alternative tailplane with a 7.7% flat bottom airfoil which is what I use on all other models. The new tailplane might well have a more linear response to AoA, but the original idea was to add a "chin" on the underside near the leading edge to reduce drag. It was originally designed as an F1A stabilizer to reduce separation on the underside of the leading edge leading to excess drag during LDA bunt launches. I'm not sure about the suitability for F1B. I will see.

Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 25, 2016, 03:57:31 AM
Thanks for all the info Tony. From the little I know about moulded wings - the long thin tail of the wing aerofoils would have taken considerable skill to layup in the mould. However it's hard to see how you would achieve this section with accuracy and strength, any other way  Very impressive job of moulding.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on July 25, 2016, 10:32:47 AM
but the original idea was to add a "chin" on the underside near the leading edge to reduce drag.

Now you got me, Tony  :)
What means a "chin" ??? Even google translator fails on that  :(

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on July 25, 2016, 11:40:08 AM
My chin is covered with whiskers ;D

Looking at LDA airfoils, I presume that it's a part of the airfoil that droops below a line between the centre of the LE and TE, close to the LE. I'll now wait for Tony to tell me I'm wrong ::)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 25, 2016, 08:09:11 PM
Yes from I have read that's basically correct PT.

As I understand it -this particularly benefits aerofoil sections of moderate camber and low thickness percentage which would otherwise tend to be concave to a degree on the lower surface behind the LE - thus leading to early flow separation at angles of attack near zero and below.

By adding a "chin" to the lower surface - basically adding a convex section to replace the concave area, then separation on the lower surface is thus delayed to much lower angles of attack and thus allowing a fast climb at low angles of attack with low drag., and consequently more height.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on July 27, 2016, 11:51:43 AM
John and Peter, I was asking about the tailplane section. I extracted it below from Tony's drawing and put the center line on.  It has no undercamber and resembles more a symmetrical foil. It has already a lot of aerea below the center line.
So there must be another meaning in the "chin".

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on July 27, 2016, 12:18:16 PM
My latest build cover here with Brent's Connie is my Lockheed Starliner 1649 here on HPA Free Flight Scale.  Gotta get her into the air.
Sky9pilot
Do you have anything to report on your Connie flights? Hope so and the flights were as beautiful as the finished product.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 27, 2016, 08:23:15 PM
Quote
John and Peter, I was asking about the tailplane section. I extracted it below from Tony's drawing and put the center line on.  It has no undercamber and resembles more a symmetrical foil. It has already a lot of aerea below the center line.
So there must be another meaning in the "chin".

Whoops! However the 'chin" I feel is still there Urs. It is what makes it appear to be close to a symmetrical airfoil. The thickness highpoint on this airfoil is quite a long way forward.
I'm not sure why separation on the lower surface would be an issue during the bunt launches it was originally designed for(as Tony mentions) however I'm sure there is a good reason.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on August 08, 2016, 09:06:29 PM
Here is my latest creation. It's the "Mojo" from plans I downloaded here.
I think it's a cool looking plane.  Covered it with silver paper and trimmed in colored tissue.
Got it out flying the other day and it flies real nice!

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 08, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Neat. Is that a full size float in the background of the second pic?
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on August 09, 2016, 02:41:50 PM
Close.
Those are snow ski's for my full scale 1946 Champ.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on August 13, 2016, 05:14:25 PM
A Heath Super Parasol based on the Gene Thomas design. 37", DC Dart diesel. The structure was built by a late friend: I covered and painted it. A lot of masking tape involved. A few finishing touches needed but I suspect I shall have to build a bigger tailplane. My first YHWM.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on August 13, 2016, 05:20:06 PM
Cracking paint job Bill!  ;D

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on August 13, 2016, 05:23:06 PM
Thanks Andrew - there's more to do!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on August 13, 2016, 06:28:23 PM
Not a colour scheme I have seen before ... looks great  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 14, 2016, 04:20:24 AM
You've done your friend proud bill. Eye catching colour scheme.
john


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 15, 2016, 11:30:18 AM
 ;D I  just finished PESCO SPECIAL which is starting to be have.  i am currently doing mustangs for a book i am writing hopefully to be published.  i also have a kids book under consideration.  we shall see i guess.  joining the mustang stable is a peanut profile and the GAR p 51 b . pics to follow

jim ::) ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on September 21, 2016, 06:17:01 AM
This is my Martin Baker MB5, built months ago but only recently put in flying condition. It's a rough (but dimensionally accurate) mockup. I meant to say on my Westland Whirlwind thread - but didn't - that I've nicked (stolen) this whole mockup idea from Rich Moore, who made a mockup Fokker Dr.I to test the viability of, and take some of the knocks for, his amazing Dr.I replica.

The MB5 model uses the torque-tube method of contra-rotation. Span is 21" (1/20 scale). The MB5's wings were short so for a 21" span model it's quite big. The wings have the RAF34 section and are made of EPS foam with balsa reinforcement, covered with pre-painted tissue. The tailplane likewise but this has a symmetrical section with 9% thickness-to-chord at the root. The fuselage and fin/rudder are 0.8mm (1/32") balsa sheet. All the flying surfaces have scale area and the wing dihedral is scale. Because of the meagre dihedral I've used pendulum ailerons. The propellers are scale diameter.

The model as shown weighs 60.8g, the airframe making up 37g and the powerplant 23.8g (including the noseweight in the spinner cap). That gives a wingloading of 0.097g/cm2 or 0.63g/in2. It's galling that it needs noseweight, but for pitch stability the CG has to be right forward - it's currently at 23% of the wingroot chord.

The video flight (https://youtu.be/nJqz5GFwGog) was lucky in that a flat evening calm coincided with a brief absence of cattle from the field (they were in a corner noshing their supplemental feed. They seem to prefer eating this than eating model aeroplanes). There were 840 turns on board and the flight used them nearly all: this gives an average RPM of about 2400. The contra-prop provides a lot of thrust, but boy it uses up turns fast. 840 turns is a bit over half the available turns of the installed motor (24" long loop of 7/32" rubber). Anyway, it now looks as if it might fly over 30 sec which is a tolerable flight time for the wingloading, and I hope to save some few grams on the fully-finished version.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on September 21, 2016, 07:23:25 AM
That looks fantastic in the air- rock steady! Don't know how you do it.

(And please will you stop making 'rough mockups' that look so much better than my proper models!  ;D)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on September 21, 2016, 07:48:47 AM
Very impressive Stephen. great presence in the air, Kudos.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on September 21, 2016, 08:31:56 AM
Pete - the "rock steady" is not my doing - it's the wind's doing (or the absence of wind in this case :) ). Also, you're obviously not seeing the sticky tape holding the wing on, and the sticky tape wing fillets, the EPS canopy with paper patches on it etc. I asked the dog what he thought of it and he said "ruff".

Thanks Dave, hope your shoulder is mending! I'm now up to date on your 'Precious Metal' thread - very interesting reading, and very relevant to this little beast.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: USch on September 21, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
Great flight, Stephen!

Urs


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on September 21, 2016, 10:51:33 PM
That's a pretty good flight Stephen - calm air or not. The combination of the contra rotating props and pendulum ailerons seems to be working well.
You also have a built in blast tube :)
Good to hear from you Dave - well on the mend I hope.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DHnut on September 22, 2016, 12:24:37 AM
Stephen,
            Looks great and it is interesting to see the ailerion positions. Tempts me to get the Mark Drela designed MB5 peanut out and move the CG to your setting. No contra prop though. It is definitely an outdoor model. I will check out the CG and start from scratch. The power when last tried was a loop of 1/8" about 1.5 times nose to peg length. The prop is a Tern Aero 6" and no ailerions.  All I need now is for the wind to stop. It is spring. The Magister is also waiting a calm morning as it now has more lead in the nose.
        Ricky
      


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 22, 2016, 12:25:57 AM
Prosper...very impressive MB-5!  I would like more info in the torque tube contra rotating prop setup please.  I have several models in mind that I would like to try this propulsion on!
Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on September 22, 2016, 01:15:25 AM
Very nice Steven. And now I also see where you use your contra rotating tube discussed in the Hiller thread.
It seems to work now nicely. Flies like on rails :)

Looking forward to see the finished model.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on September 22, 2016, 09:23:10 AM
Thanks fellas. Roman, I remember now you asked me on your helicopter thread what the contra unit was for - and I never replied! Sorry about that. Ricky, this particular MB5 model seems to demand a well forward CG for acceptable pitch stability. The hz stabiliser is very big (nearly 26% of wing area) but it's on a very short arm. Also the contra-prop is probably much more destabilising than a single prop, and it's on a long nose. An MB5 model with a single prop may not require the CG so far forward - you might be able to save on uneccessary noseweight.

Tom, the idea is very simple but putting it into practice less so, and each installation will raise its own challenges. I guess the details of this system don't belong on this thread so I've opened a topic (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=21220.0) on the Outdoor General Discussion forum.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on September 22, 2016, 03:15:48 PM
I managed to sneak in another Martin Baker MB5 flight (https://youtu.be/seeb1AAJBPg) just now - not so good as the last flight I uploaded and disappointing since there were lots more turns - 1260 turns which is only a couple of hundred short of max - and the flight duration is no greater. But do I have excuses? Of course! The evening chill was descending very rapidly and the tissue was already wrinkled by the time the old crate landed. I think the air was probably sinking a bit, also that the model could have benefitted from a slight soupçon of up-elevator (it was flying faster than expected). Never mind, it was good to see the ailerons at work. There is a very slight hesitancy of the ailerons at small deflections, which I can't correct until I open the wings up, and this can cause control problems, but they did their job this time. The picture shows how the model stopped: the contra-prop assembly has flipped out of the nose alleviating stress on the blades; it has tugged the torque-tube out a little bit - often the whole thing jumps right out - and the lead-tipped spinner cap is left behind the model despite being attached by a pair of neo dymy-minny-inyium magnets. The spinner cap helps to protect the blades too.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on September 23, 2016, 01:11:21 PM
Thanks Stephen....beautiful model and your ailerons setup is great!
Sky9pilot


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dr Spark on October 15, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
I put this picture into another thread, not knowing where it belongs.  A 1/2-A version of the old timer Berkley Buccaneer free flight.  Built from plans obtained from NFFS.  Power is an old Atom .099 spark engine. 

I might have to wait until spring time for flying weather.

Floyd Carter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Dr Spark on October 15, 2016, 09:31:28 PM
Another recent effort.  This is the 1939 Korda Wakefield, but powered with a small electric motor.  First flight, even with a DT, I had to scramble over rough terrain to retrieve.  So, back to the workbench to install a 2.4GHz radio for rudder, elevator and motor.  Now, I can fly it anywhere and there is no chasing!
I like FF, but I do  not like chasing!

Floyd


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 16, 2016, 06:33:11 PM
Very nice models DS. The Korda looks elegant and I'm sure it will fly well with RC. Look up Flyguy's efforts here on HPA. He specializes in RC rubber FF.

Happy flying
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on October 16, 2016, 08:33:31 PM
 ;D  working on the GAR Mustang, Pesco Special AND A PROFILE MUSTANG

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 23, 2016, 09:40:44 AM
A Halberstadt DII. 30", 9oz, Banks Mills 0.5cc, 4.5oz/sq ft, enlarged tail!
It will get an engine, exhaust and pilot when it flies.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on October 23, 2016, 01:13:07 PM
Yes, I like. But how do you expect it to fly sans engine and pilot. (Sorry).

This aircraft has always fascinated me with its rather pinched look but more so with the trailing edge droop and upper wing washout that some were so rigged. Washout OK but the "droop"?  What dihedral did you decide upon Bill? And how much of an increase in tail area.  It does not look that overdone.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 23, 2016, 02:01:23 PM
Tail area is about double - probably overkill. Dihedral is about scale and the lower wings have washed out all by themselves!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 23, 2016, 06:08:25 PM
Help Help - pilot less plane :) Very nice Bill - nice sheen on the paint without being glossy.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 24, 2016, 03:59:55 PM
A DH75 Hawk Moth for rubber. 46" span and 9oz so far. I had wanted to finish it before posting but as you can see, the cold damp weather does not suit spraying cellulose so it may have to go away until spring.
However, I was hoping someone could suggest a prop size. I anticipate about 40g rubber so is 18" about right? And 24" pitch? I shall use Ivan Taylor's strimmer cable blade attachment method


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on October 24, 2016, 05:04:37 PM
Looks great.
I use low blush thinners from Flitehook ... not sure if it helps, but wondered if you have tried it?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 24, 2016, 05:18:14 PM
Russ, yes anti-bloom thinners but to no avail. It was a very cold damp day.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on October 24, 2016, 06:35:30 PM
response to #960,
Bill,
Your figures are uncannily close to what my old spreadsheet tells me.  I reckon that if you put your 40g into 14 strands that the 18" diameter prop with 1.25 P/D (pitch 22.5) should be about right.  It should comfortably take 1000 to 1200 turns and give a motor run of about a minute and a quarter to a minute and a half.  She looks neat in the tiny picture and I look forward to seeing her with more pixels at her 'Coming Out'.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 25, 2016, 03:15:35 AM
Thanks John - the last thing it needs in its current state is more pixels!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on October 25, 2016, 09:17:57 AM
 ;D  here's three tangs  a GAR, a profile and a sheet conversion of stick and tissue by dave stott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Sky9pilot on October 25, 2016, 06:30:55 PM
Love your collection of Stangs!  How thin is the sheeted airframe sheets?
Tom


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on October 26, 2016, 12:42:18 AM
You already had a chance to fly the birds of this nice fleet?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on October 26, 2016, 06:41:38 AM
 ;D yes, the birds are in flight testing and are beginning to behave.  the profile stang is working pretty good the others are coming.  the sheet stang has 1/32 sheet, light to med grade, in it; the tail feathers are 1/29 foam plates and the wing is built up. i don't do sheet work often because balsa ain't cheap or easily available.  i built it to prove a point to myself.

JIM ::) ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 01, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
A John Barker Gigi after 3 days. PAW 55


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Hepcat on December 05, 2016, 07:09:07 PM
Bill,
Thank you for shewing pictures of 'Gigi'. After all these years I hardly recognized her.  Did you really build her in three days?  It would be good if that was the case because I seem to remember claiming that she was the quickest and safest way of getting a small diesel into the air.  I am puzzled by the 38" span.  It is not the sort of thing I would do when balsa came in 36" lengths..  Was yours built from the 'Aeromodeller' plan?  If it was I can't help wondering if someone else put two extra bays in the wing.  I know the way my mind works.  I would normally have used five 2" rib spacings in the outer panels, three 2" spacings on the inner panel and one narrower spacing to suit the fuselage width.  The fact there are two narrow spacings  at the centre is an odd thing to do and causes the extra 2" on span.  If it was my mistake I am very sorry.
John   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 03:04:29 AM
Hello John, yes, three days.
The original plan is advertised at 38 1/2" I recall but I just measured the wing (because it didn't fit in my box, like my 39" Baron Knight does) and laid flat it is 42"!
I had to add some lead at the front, as predicted
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cvasecuk on December 06, 2016, 06:38:43 AM
I've just had a look at the plan and the the "List of Materials" does tie in with the plan as drawn; ie 3 lengths for the spars, 2 for the LE etc. whereas you would only need 2 spars, 1 LE etc if it was only going to be 36" span. A nice looking plane - a powered Lulu?
Ron


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 06:52:59 AM
It's a great design - a proper beginner's model. The nose is too short unless you use very light wood for the tail but the main problem is the sheet sides. Does anyone else find that modern sheet balsa distorts as soon as you cut it? The only way to deal with it is to cut 1/4" oversize, let it settle, then cut it down gradually until you have two identical, straight sides. Yes, a powered Lulu


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 02:03:24 PM
A Hepcat


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 02:04:43 PM
A Stahl Curtiss Seagull from the Flyline plan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on December 06, 2016, 02:46:56 PM
Very nice indeed Bill - is that a bamboo T/P outline I see in the back there? - We'll have you building Jimmie Allen models next!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
Hello Mike, no it's basswood laminations and a lot of ammonia.
i did a Jimmie Allen years ago - it was in Aeromodeller - and I fancy a cabin one.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on December 06, 2016, 04:09:28 PM
Bill - you're on fire!

 ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on December 06, 2016, 04:23:55 PM
Hello Mike, no it's basswood laminations and a lot of ammonia.
i did a Jimmie Allen years ago - it was in Aeromodeller - and I fancy a cabin one.
Well, equally laudable!  We had a JA competition a few years back and most chose the parasols and cabins - they all go well.  Me being me and somewhat contrary I chose the Spartan Bomber, complete with 3 bladed prop, bomb dropper and tacky motor hum device!  It flies beautifully


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 04:30:28 PM
Bill - you're on fire!

 ;D
Now that's a coincidence because I have literally just removed my soldering iron from the wood I was resting it on. Lots of smoke.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on December 06, 2016, 04:40:44 PM
Now that's a coincidence because I have literally just removed my soldering iron from the wood I was resting it on. Lots of smoke.

 :o


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on December 06, 2016, 04:46:32 PM
I wish I could nick a bit of your productivity Bill ... just 10% ... you wouldn't miss it  ::)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 06, 2016, 05:08:17 PM
A VMC Camel. Just needs rigging,engine and guns and pilot. Another very nice kit


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on December 06, 2016, 05:41:26 PM
Nice, Bill!

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 18, 2016, 03:59:12 PM
A KK Fokker DVIII. This was the first model I built (1959?) that maintained height! I can see it now floating across the garden to land in a dahlia. It always seems an odd one in the KK range - why the 3/32sq structure on such a small model?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on December 18, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
Bill, you seem to be setting a amazing pace building!

The D8 was one of the few Bill Dean designed, I think that the Luscombe Silvaire, Kibrby Prefect and Piper super cruiser was too.  They are all a bit "chunky"...

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 18, 2016, 05:10:10 PM
Bill, you seem to be setting a amazing pace building!
Hi Andrew. I am just forcing myself to finish all my unfinished projects. This one, for example, has sat around for three years waiting for me to make a couple of cowlings!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on December 18, 2016, 05:11:15 PM
This is a 75% Tiny Tandem glider built for our church's annual gift exchange & Turkey dinner tonight. 9 3/4" wingspan, 1/8" hard fuselage, 3/32" wing sanded to an airfoil, 1/16" stab, 1/32" rudders. Flying weight, including clay, about 6.5 g. Floats along nicely in the glide.
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on December 20, 2016, 09:16:50 AM
Looks great. I hope it went home with a kid who has wanted one a long time. Good Job. Where did you find that plan?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on December 20, 2016, 11:50:02 AM
The plan is available both here on HPA, and on Outerzone (http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=8248 (http://outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=8248))
The plane went to a young, newly married couple and he was definitely interested.
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mark Braunlich on January 09, 2017, 12:30:25 PM
My new 1:12 scale, 20" span, semi-scale Sperry Messenger.  Roughly based on the Blankenship plan.  All markings painted on (1st Squadron, Observation, oldest in USAF).


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Oldtime Flyer on January 09, 2017, 02:51:53 PM
Very nice Mark,

Otf'er.....


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on January 09, 2017, 03:53:57 PM
What a great little model. Really nice! The markings look superb- you must have a rock steady hand.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on January 09, 2017, 04:17:38 PM
Superb!

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on January 10, 2017, 02:55:35 AM
Wow! Mark, that's really something.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 10, 2017, 03:25:35 AM
It's a beauty Mark, but I think we need to re-define 'semi scale'!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ffscale on January 10, 2017, 04:18:28 AM
That's a gorgeous model Mark - really neat finish and markings.  In what way is it semi-scale?  Seems to match the photos of the real thing very well.

Mike S.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on January 10, 2017, 09:28:19 AM
Quote from: ffscale
  In what way is it semi-scale?
I think Mark is mortified that he didn't model the scalloped trailing edges. How can he live with himself? It also looks from the photos as if the fin might flare out below the mid-fin rib, so I'm not sure the model even counts as semi scale. . . ;D Seriously that gem gets a 'kudos' from me; the painting alone would ensure that, never mind the rest.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 10, 2017, 05:01:13 PM
What an outstanding effort Mark. That paint finish is in a class of it's own.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on January 14, 2017, 10:02:31 PM
here is my latest. built from plans downloaded here.
it's 20 degrees and winter time right now so might have to wait to see how it flies!

it has a superior wood prop from volare on the front. the wings are one piece and held on by a couple rubber bands underneath. added some extra structure to the horizontal stab. i dont know how you would keep that together if built by the plans.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cbaker65 on January 14, 2017, 10:55:33 PM
here is my latest. built from plans downloaded here.
it's 20 degrees and winter time right now so might have to wait to see how it flies!

it has a superior wood prop from volare on the front. the wings are one piece and held on by a couple rubber bands underneath. added some extra structure to the horizontal stab. i dont know how you would keep that together if built by the plans.

Beautiful plane!..


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on January 15, 2017, 07:33:05 PM
thanks cb


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on January 16, 2017, 02:55:36 AM
That's a perky little model cm. What is it and what is the wingspan?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on January 16, 2017, 10:13:24 AM
The name is shown on the model. It is an" Erie Daily Times". The wingspan is somewhere close to 24 inches if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 17, 2017, 08:23:38 AM
A KK Fokker D8.
I stuck the paper crosses on with Spraymount and they are peeling already. When they fall off, I'll put them back on in the right place
(thanks Russ for printing help)
PS doesn't it go nicely with a VMC Camel and SE (hint). But no more so than would a Nieuport 17.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on January 17, 2017, 08:45:11 AM
What a lovely dogfight collection!
And yes, a VMC Nieuport would be a great addition (HINT 2), especially as the instruction booklet which came with my newly arrived VMC Camel actually shows a Nieuport on the last page where it tells you to collect and build the whole range! A Bebe would be my first choice but I'll settle for a 17. (If you do it, Andrew, I promise to shut up about Dan's mad Geebee idea! ;D)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on January 17, 2017, 02:01:59 PM
Your own WWI mass launch ... great group of models.

Is it the 17 in this month's FSM? .... build yer own Pete!  ;)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 22, 2017, 03:14:44 PM
An Andrew Moorhouse Peanut Luton Minor, nearly finished


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on January 24, 2017, 01:16:45 AM
Very nice, crisp colours.
roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mark Braunlich on January 26, 2017, 02:44:53 PM
Nice Luton Minor Bill.  Did you build from the kit?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 26, 2017, 03:18:20 PM
No, Mark. I don´t know when the kits disappeared - maybe the early 80s. But I had one at the time and they were nice kits


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on January 26, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
That Luton looks nice. Has it flown yet?

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 27, 2017, 03:16:47 AM
Chris, not yet. I hope to give it a go at the next indoor meeting. I´ve used a flat wing so I also hope I haven´t been too clever!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on January 27, 2017, 10:22:16 AM
I have the plan and asked Andrew a while ago what he thought about a flat wing (inspired by my Triplane you see) and he said why not! Likewise the Comper Swift.

Goodness Bill you have been knocking them out.   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on February 03, 2017, 07:05:17 AM
 ::) i cracked out a minnow  in anticpation of doing school projects with kids. more on that later


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 16, 2017, 02:14:16 AM
The newes bird in my fleet... another redwing.
No flights yet, hope to fly it soon.


Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 16, 2017, 04:44:52 PM
Very nice Roman - white tail?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 17, 2017, 12:55:36 AM
John, I had something on the rudder, but it looked odd :P
The scheme doesnt look balanced, it was the best I could do. I wouldnt be a good illustrator ::)

I wanted to try something new with the hibiscus. I was quite disappointed, I wont do it again... It looks ok from distance, but if you look close ::) Anyway, you have to try new things from time to time...

Roman



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on February 17, 2017, 01:40:15 AM
Perhaps an Edelweiss?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 19, 2017, 03:55:57 AM
Fire breathing dragon? :) It will fly as well as it looks Roman.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 19, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
Hmm, you might be right... a fearsome dragon would balance the peaceful hibiscus.

Here it is ;D

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rich Moore on February 19, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
Beautiful


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on February 19, 2017, 09:21:26 AM
Roman, that is a pretty little thing what is it? I am enamored with it. I want to build one. It speaks gorgeous simplicity. That hibiscus goes well with it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on February 19, 2017, 09:29:07 AM
Roman, that's lovely!

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on February 19, 2017, 09:48:06 AM
Very Nice Roman.  I love the Redwing, it's such a super little model.

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 19, 2017, 10:52:19 AM
Thanks everybody :)

Crabby, its a Frog Redwing. Your can find the plan here: http://www.houseoffrog.co.uk/senior_plans.htm (http://www.houseoffrog.co.uk/senior_plans.htm) You have to scroll down, its the last plane on the site.
As Andrew sad, its a super little model and doesnt take much time to build. It is ideal to build and fly with children since it is sturdy enough to survive some hard landings or failed take-offs...

I just came back from the field. I wanted to use the nice weather for some first trim flights. Trimming is straight forward. Find the CG, adjust thrust angle if necessary and give some more turns.
Here are the flight pics.

Hope you all had such a nice weekend as I had!

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on February 19, 2017, 12:13:54 PM
Fellas I never paid much attention to the cute charisma of this Frog line! I can see a build or two coming up!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 19, 2017, 01:23:10 PM
Crabby, looking forward to it.



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on February 19, 2017, 05:32:25 PM
That looks terrific in flight Roman. No matter how hard he tries the pilot can't escape the dragon behind him :)
Not a bad looking dragon as well.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on February 19, 2017, 06:10:53 PM
Beautiful model, beautiful photos (as ever!)

Thanks, Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 20, 2017, 01:06:00 AM
Thanks, but now it is finished...
I still have the Tiger Moth on the building board and our spring meeting is coming closer in big steps...


Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: CassuttNZ on February 20, 2017, 02:27:37 AM
I have recently finished building this Guillows Cessna 150 as a present for my flying instructor, MTM is one of his personal aeroplanes that i have done all my training in. Im pretty pleased with how its turned out, probably my best yet.
Louis

(http://iforce.co.nz/i/vemlexdj.v3w.jpg) (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=vemlexdj.v3w.jpg)

(http://iforce.co.nz/i/h05fw5s3.cn4.jpg) (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=h05fw5s3.cn4.jpg)

(http://iforce.co.nz/i/0as0pakz.0lh.jpg) (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=0as0pakz.0lh.jpg)

(http://iforce.co.nz/i/5ps41lha.aem.jpg) (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=5ps41lha.aem.jpg)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on February 20, 2017, 02:34:20 AM
Very nice. Is it painted? Electric?
OK daft question. What is the idea of the checkerboard anti-glare (?) panel


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on February 20, 2017, 06:10:37 AM
Very nice, there are not many Cessna plans out there...
I would like to build a C-152, but never found a nice plan. Your C-150 is close to it :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: CassuttNZ on February 22, 2017, 04:10:35 AM
Bill, Yes it has been airbrushed in Tamiya acrylic with the stripes masked with yellow Tamiya tape which i highly recommend. Being a gift i have just made it as a static model, its to heavy to fly well with the stock Guillows wood anyway. I dont know what the reason behind the checkers is, possibly just an interesting alternative from a solid black panel. 
rgroener, Thanks yes i believe the 150 and the 152 are very similar in looks with the 152 having a slightly different cowling for the lycoming engine instead of the earlier Continental powered 150


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 03, 2017, 10:36:51 AM
 ;D here are three overnite builds
10 guillows skyraider 17 inches
dave diels me 109 from FLYING MODELS 16 inches
airlane mig 15 at 150% 12 1/2 INCHES

jim ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 03, 2017, 05:42:03 PM
My version of the Piaggio PC-7 1929 Schneider Trophy Cup racer, even though it never did get off the water. Plan by Bernard here: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=1334.0 (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=1334.0)
Wingspan is 13", Weight, not including rubber is 20.0 grams. Pilot's name is Luigi. Build thread is in a Cookup over on Stick&Tissue: http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1478218959 (http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1478218959)
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 03, 2017, 05:57:30 PM
Interesting choice Ian - it looks potent and typically Italian.

Fantastic building rate jim.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 04, 2017, 08:29:21 AM
 ;D i am now working on a rebuild of the guillows corsair The X F4U version .  This is a second kick at the cat for it.  I will be testing a method to ayttach wing spar to body so wings can be slotted in. THE INSTRUCTIONS O THE PAN AND THIS STYE OF BUILD DIDN'T LEND ITSELF MUCH TO ATTACHING WINGS.

my hospital patients are all comfy and will be flighted next week.

JIM


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on March 11, 2017, 08:05:07 PM
After 30+ yrs of this design (Texaco 13) it was
time to upgrade the prints, refine the laser cuts,
rework the fuselage structure and tissue printing,
Texaco now has new life.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 12, 2017, 05:36:29 PM
Very nice Mike.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 15, 2017, 08:47:30 AM
 ;D I really got creative  ::) HEE HEE HEE ::)  
 
background    a short while ago over at stick and tissue.com ( YES HPA I'm cheating on you but only with my eyes.) IN THE NAME THAT PLANE  section someone posted a picture of the one off VEGA STARLINER  i thought neat looking plan . i wouldn't mind doing it.  Well a couple of weeks ago, They started a cook up over on FFCOOKUP@yahoogroups.  there is a plan available through Comet but try and find it (see Volare products for the short kit) so i decided to do my own sketch.  thanks to some documentation from a couple of sources, i got a photo of the real thing, dimensions and three view details. since the comet plan was 25 inches wing span, i did my calcs and here's what i came up with.

enjoy. it is now ready for flight test and trim.

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on March 15, 2017, 12:06:52 PM
Great Jim  :) The more of our own we put into our construction, the more the sense of satisfaction. Good work!
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 15, 2017, 04:20:39 PM
 ;D  This sucker turns hard left no matter what I Do to correct.  I have warped wing tips to raise left wing, put in right thrust but they are not effective  Is my rudders tail too small?

JIM ???


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 15, 2017, 04:33:25 PM
Are the fins correctly aligned?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on March 16, 2017, 07:28:27 AM
There is a lot of ragged tissue along the LE of the left wing (can't see the right wing) that might be creating a LOT of drag.  Running a bit of sandpaper (280 grit is good) lightly, just behind where the upper tissue overlaps the lower, and then peeling off the ragged parts will smooth things over.  Re-seal the seam with a smear of dope or thinned glue applied with a finger.

Nice subject!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 16, 2017, 07:55:03 AM
 ;D ;D  Actually the rudder wasn't aligned!  I went to shed nite and that was the first thing my guru noticed  so we straightened it out.  That didn't quite fix it the wing still fell off at the end of the flight. Then at 2 am I got a brain wave..is the left wing heavier than the right? or visa versa?  a glob of clay on the right wing gotb the plane to fall to the right so i'm on to something.

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: modler on March 16, 2017, 01:10:37 PM
A few small brads in the right wingtip should cure it.

Bill G.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on March 20, 2017, 08:24:09 AM
Here's my latest I've been working on for a couple of months now. It's an Avia S92, the Czech version of the Me262. It is exactly the same as the 262 but different color schemes that I preferred. Anyway, it is a twin rubber powered jet. All I have to do now is work on the front ends for each nacelle. I have the props already. Two hand carved balsa props that turn in opposite directions. The wingspan is 27.5" and the props are 6.5" each. Should have half a chance to fly. I'll wait for the safety of tall grass to try it out though.

Steve


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on March 20, 2017, 08:46:51 AM
Steve,

Very cool, and beautiful workmanship!  Looking forward to a flight report.

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on March 20, 2017, 12:35:45 PM
Very nice SB
Always loved aircraft done up in Czech markings


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on March 21, 2017, 10:14:30 AM
Thanks guys,

I'm gonna wait as long as I can stand it to get her in the air. The ground is not ready to receive scale stick and tissue yet. Still throwing stick jobs and sport jobs up in the air right now.

Steve


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on March 21, 2017, 02:40:48 PM
Nice work Steve, I like this design for rubber jet twin. So, what is the weight?
B


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on March 22, 2017, 10:12:29 AM
The weight right now without rubber is 56g. That includes the two balsa props. I'm not sure of the wing loading as I haven't figured out the area of the wing yet. When I do I will post the results.

Thanks,
Steve


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dosco on April 02, 2017, 08:10:59 AM
Here's my latest I've been working on for a couple of months now. It's an Avia S92, the Czech version of the Me262. It is exactly the same as the 262 but different color schemes that I preferred. Anyway, it is a twin rubber powered jet. All I have to do now is work on the front ends for each nacelle. I have the props already. Two hand carved balsa props that turn in opposite directions. The wingspan is 27.5" and the props are 6.5" each. Should have half a chance to fly. I'll wait for the safety of tall grass to try it out though.

Steve


Steve:
That is super tasty. Well done.

-Dave


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 04, 2017, 12:48:21 PM
I've now made a crude engine for this 46" rubber hawk Moth so should fly soon. I'm not going to weigh it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mefot on April 04, 2017, 01:32:21 PM
It doesn't look heavy Bill, but it does look delicate !!! Unusual looking prop. Is it a commercial or hand carved item?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 04, 2017, 02:22:42 PM
No it's not delicate; in fact a little diesel would suit it very well!
The prop is borrowed from Ivan Taylor's 36" rubber SE5a. The photo in fact catches it at a peculiar angle but it looks good


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on April 04, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
Not looking so crude from here  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: SBlanchard on April 05, 2017, 12:24:22 PM
It looks quite nice to me!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on April 16, 2017, 03:24:55 PM
 ;D BEHOLD my 22 inch hurricane developed from rc plan powered by 3 loops 1/8 rubber flies great

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 26, 2017, 08:07:17 AM
Ready for testing. I did weigh it - 9.5oz without rubber (1oz?) so it's 6oz per sqft. No ballast will be needed. Hopefully it will go well and be entered in the Nationals.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on April 26, 2017, 08:35:49 AM
  Really neat Bill, hard to keep coming up with things to say about the models on here except could we please have some more photos  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on April 26, 2017, 09:07:37 AM
Hi Bill, with your DH high-winger experience and seeming memory of every model that's ever flown, you don't happen to know whether a Leopard Moth can fly FF with scale dihedral do you? The Leopard Moth has zero dihedral along the bottom of each wing, so the taper in thickness towards the tips actually gives it slight anhedral.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 26, 2017, 10:11:22 AM
Hello Stephen. I've never done a Leopard Moth; it has less wing area than a Puss and with its zero dihedral it looks sad and droopy. I always think you can add a little dihedral if there is some there to begin with (ie Puss Moth) but if there's none, it stands out.
The only example outdoors I know of was Eric Coates' version, which had about three degrees. It looked wrong.
I've never been one to say 'It'll never fly' but I suspect a flat wing Leopard Moth would be tricky. I know you like tricky! But for me it would be extensible struts to go from zero to 2 degrees in flight. With the sweepback, you wouldn't notice it in flight except on photos. I've got such struts on the Hawk Moth.
Or...pendulum ailerons


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on April 26, 2017, 12:06:15 PM
Quote from: billdennis747
I always think you can add a little dihedral if there is some there to begin with (ie Puss Moth) but if there's none, it stands out.
Absolutely! The trouble is, I feel the amount you can add is much in proportion to what's there to begin with - so an Auster with 1° per wing will only bear a fraction of a degree extra until it looks bad - in other words not enough to help much - whereas an Me 109 with approx 7° will bear one or two degrees more, but it's not necessary in the first place!

Quote
. . .for me it would be extensible struts to go from zero to 2 degrees in flight.
Smart, I might do that. It may be quite fitting because after staring at many many Leopard Moth pictures I'm near certain that the wings lift in flight anyway, just a degree or so. Not very surprising given that the struts are hinged at the bottom and the wing is held on by one hinge and a bent paperclip or something at the front. Surprising they don't fall to bits in the air really.

I was just wondering whether I could squeeze by without pendulum ailerons - a nice simple build. . .sigh. . .

Thanks,
Stephen. P.S. They do not look sad and droopy - signed, Eeyore.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 26, 2017, 12:12:43 PM
I've used extensible struts many times with success but two degrees is all I've ever needed, and had no stability problems.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 28, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
We took the DH75 out to Luffenham and once I stopped trying to force it right, it went well on 30g of 1/8 in 16 strands 25" long (as recommended by my personal trainer)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhcQPk9SO4

PS if you look carefully you can see the extensible struts working at launch


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on April 28, 2017, 04:02:58 PM
Very nice Bill - great subject.  Who is the PT?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on April 28, 2017, 04:13:08 PM
PT?  Ah, just realised. Ivan Taylor. He suggested 30g and 25" long. I began with 29" long and 12 strands which was taking it a quarter of a mile at 5 feet altitude. Gradually worked it up to what he said in the first place!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on April 29, 2017, 02:50:32 AM
Very nice Bill. Good luck in the Nationals!

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on April 29, 2017, 09:32:53 AM
Nice work Bill and there is nothing so pleasing and worthy of admiration as a FF scale rubber powered model flying so steadily.  Must be very satisfying for you!  I suppose Ivan could know a thing or two about rubber?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on May 03, 2017, 10:51:10 AM
 ;D my latest is a He 100 by D Srull at 23 inch span.  The canopy is tough since I don't have molds.  Flight is still wobbly so I am still shaking it down . Has a nasty habil of rolling to the left which i counter with weight on left wing. Now to refine


BTW the black tissue is Crap so I lay down a sheet of white with grain vertical and then the black glued to it with grain lengthwise.


JIM ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on May 03, 2017, 07:22:15 PM
Amazing output Jim. It almost seems like one a day.

Happy flying.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FranciscoB on May 08, 2017, 07:33:50 AM
I built the Micro Wanderer in this post using plans I found on RCGroups. The designer was kind enough to share them with me as the shipping costs fir the kit he was selling would make it twice as expensive.

The RCGroups thread for thr Alien Tech Micro Wanderer:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2716454-Micro-Wanderer

Receiver is WLToys F939 board. Made an error when converting balsa sheet thickness from imperial to metric units, which propagated to the end of the building process. To cut weight back to under 46 grams I had to make some holes with the dremel. Yet, it feels sturdy and I'm confident it will fly well. It was my second covering job but I got it to tighten up properly. I will definitely build another version using 1/16" balsa...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on May 08, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
Good effort Francisco. Don't fly too far away with that receiver until you have checked the range - It sounds like it is for a Park flyer and range may not be much more than 50m.

Motor GP fan as well?

John.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FranciscoB on May 08, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
Yes, I've been following it since it was broadcasted live through Eurosport in the early 00's. Still very exciting, maybe even more in the last 5 or so years. Philip Island is for sure one of my Top 3 favorite tracks.

Regarding the receiver, I will definitely make a range test first even though I dont plan to put a motor in it for now.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on June 19, 2017, 11:19:14 PM
Here is my latest build. My wife bought me this Guillows kit of the Aeronca Champ 85 for my birthday. When you see the last pic you'll see why. The full scale 1946 Champ is mine. I restored it a few years ago back to original condition. That took about three years, this took about three weeks!

I made some changes to kit to look like the 1946 Champ and had the perfect thing in my backyard to get some of those "scale" details.  :)  Also, in the interest of weight pulled out half the wing ribs and thinned out material for the empennage. I got some large blocks of balsa from my dad and was able to carve the boot cowl and nose bowl out of it. That way I didn't have to use the plastic parts.
The instrument panel is a photo from my Champ.

I like building scale but I can't get it to fly to save my life!

Chris



Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on June 20, 2017, 05:44:51 AM
 ;D here is the pre production kit i did for Dave Diels.  Its nice

JIM ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 20, 2017, 10:57:45 AM
A Focke Wulf Fw47. 29", 59g with tail weight and a battery full of electricity. SAMS electric unit


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on June 20, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Bill that just made my heart flutter. DI-VYL, (RIP) was my first FW 47. Disappeared during a trim flight in New Jersey. DI-BGU has been in triage for about 5 years.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on June 20, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
Thanks for your help Crabby. By the way, I found a photo of another Headley Fw47 in an old Aeromodeller (Dec 73) by Jim Watson at the US Nats, Oshkosh. I've got one scheduled for this year!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on June 20, 2017, 01:53:56 PM
Thanks for what you did to reduce the weight on the Champ. I may just do the same things when I do the Guillows Beaver. Allen
Here is my latest build. My wife bought me this Guillows kit of the Aeronca Champ 85 for my birthday. When you see the last pic you'll see why. The full scale 1946 Champ is mine. I restored it a few years ago back to original condition. That took about three years, this took about three weeks!

I made some changes to kit to look like the 1946 Champ and had the perfect thing in my backyard to get some of those "scale" details.  :)  Also, in the interest of weight pulled out half the wing ribs and thinned out material for the empennage. I got some large blocks of balsa from my dad and was able to carve the boot cowl and nose bowl out of it. That way I didn't have to use the plastic parts.
The instrument panel is a photo from my Champ.

I like building scale but I can't get it to fly to save my life!

Chris



Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on June 20, 2017, 05:47:36 PM
if you are going to have a chance to fly some of these Guillows kits it seems like you need to keep the weight down. But that hasn't helped me so far!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on June 20, 2017, 07:26:39 PM
Very nice looking Champ Chris. The glazing looks very neat. It looks you cut it exactly to size and inserted it.

The aluminium finish on your FW47 looks very realistic Bill and it sets the whole model off.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: cman on June 21, 2017, 03:20:03 PM
John, I don't know if I want to give away my glazing secrets  :) but, I just mounted the windows from the inside.

Chris


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 07, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
A Caproni Ca100. 36", rubber, 70g thus far


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on July 07, 2017, 03:36:22 PM
What an interesting choice. I like it, although I've never quite been able to get past the short top wing looking somehow just wrong. 70g sounds very light.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on July 07, 2017, 05:29:43 PM
I believe this was a sort of licence -built DH60 but due to the exchange rate at the time funds only provided for a partial top wing.   ;)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 28, 2017, 03:28:57 PM
A Guillows Fairchild 24 for Nijmegen, to replace the one I destroyed in a tree. Finished in the box art which would appear to be spurious.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 28, 2017, 03:33:08 PM
A Caproni Ca100. A preposterous attempt to emulate Mike Stuart's large-and-light approach to indoor scale. Well it's certainly large but the weight has shot up. Bigly.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on July 28, 2017, 04:05:48 PM
Nice work Bill...  ;D

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on July 28, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
Lovely. The Fairchild looks fatter than mine for some reason.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on July 28, 2017, 06:45:32 PM
Very nice, Bill!

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ZK-AUD on July 28, 2017, 07:53:06 PM
very nice on both counts Bill.  Your work rate is nothing short of amazing and puts us all to shame!!  Is that a lovely carved prop I can see on the front of the Fairchild?  Got a close-up?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 28, 2017, 09:11:44 PM
Bill you must have a team of well trained elves working for you :). pass on my compliments of 2 very well done builds.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on July 29, 2017, 01:26:33 AM
Bill, beautiful models!
I especially like the picture in post#1091, where you can see clearly the structure of the stab.
The black finish looks very opaque compared to the "tissue only" finish of the Fairchild :)

Looking forward to see them in the air.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on July 29, 2017, 02:03:35 AM
Very impressive to have them done a full three months before Nijmegen too. Isn't there a real danger that you'll now be expected to have them fully trimmed before the event?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 29, 2017, 09:03:11 AM
Thanks all. Mike, the prop was given to me by Paul Briggs and I think it comes from SAMS models/Czech Republic and yes, it's a very fine piece of work. I made sure to get it out of the tree.
Part of the secret to building all these models is not doing them very well. In truth, I haven't done the Caproni or the others justice and it has plenty of wrinkles. Black is very good at hiding them in photos. I'm just not very good at these lightweight structures and I really ought to stop.
Pete, yes I wanted to get them out of the way while I had a 'window of opportunity' because the autumn is very busy outdoors. I don't like building indoor models during the outdoor season, which runs from February to December!. No doubt I shall end up splatting them on the walls on the Friday before the event, although hopefully there may be a Velodrome session.
Don't tell anyone but the real colour should be a very very dark green, but I remember a very nice black one from the 2000 Interlaaken World RC champs (he got it wrong too). I'd like to do a bigger diesel one but there is only one photo of which I know.

Photos for Mike
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 29, 2017, 12:03:31 PM
This little glider was published by Wordguy and is in the gallery. One hour! It's in pieces because it has to go in a suitcase to a grandchild in Mallorca, and will be assembled on site, like an Airbus, for him to throw into a tree.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 29, 2017, 12:07:23 PM
PS my only photo of this full size Caproni


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pit on August 10, 2017, 10:40:30 AM
 
I didn't build these, but here are a couple of old timer gliders that I got today from Ronald Borg from Sweden :).

The first pic is the BG-44 by Bora-Gunic which won the 1952 WC in Graz (A2 class).  Wingspan is 1668mm

Second is the UPPÅT, an old Swedish design by Rob. Lőwen-Åberg - not sure of the date.  Span 1500mm (A1 class)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BG on August 10, 2017, 01:08:10 PM
Hi All,
I am currently working on a plan. I will have access to a good quality laser cutter in the future and so I am planning to start a little kit business. This will be the first kit on offer. Mr Mulligan in 24inch size. Still a fair bit to do and presumably some learning to do when I try to cut the parts and do the first assemblies but I will get there eventually.

BG


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on August 15, 2017, 11:24:17 AM
Nice!!

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mugs914 on August 22, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Hi All,
I am currently working on a plan. I will have access to a good quality laser cutter in the future and so I am planning to start a little kit business. This will be the first kit on offer. Mr Mulligan in 24inch size. Still a fair bit to do and presumably some learning to do when I try to cut the parts and do the first assemblies but I will get there eventually.

BG

Nice BG! Please keep us apprised of your progress on this one. As a real Mister Mulligan I heartily approve of your choice of subject!

Mike Mulligan


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 22, 2017, 04:19:26 PM
Biggles is in the mess, kicking his heels with Algy and Ginger waiting for the poor flying weather to break....

Not sure I can claim this as my creation cos I didn't design it but I did build it (and a good time was had by all). VMC's Sopwith F1.  Still waiting flight trials; weather here rubbish.

It's finished in Habitat (IKEA for younger readers) trim i.e. unpainted struts. :)

Sorry about the links haven't yet worked out how to create small thumbnails from 3MB image files - and me a programmer of over 30 years standing too - will update this post when I have done.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41392773@N02/36571398722/in/album-72157683218588084/

Whole sorry story here :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41392773@N02/albums/72157683218588084/page1



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on August 23, 2017, 02:44:00 AM
Most excellent procrastination Lurker!  ;D

Your Camel entirely qualifies for the VMC Cookup:  http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=21362.0 (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=21362.0)

Re re-sizing, your computer's image browser will have a menu-option to re-size, and also automatic exposure correction.  Piccies below show what I normally do (using Preview on a Mac).  For this I've chosen a random image that is too big, and also too dark as the camera's automatic but dumb exposure setting assumed an average mid-grey tone, whereas in real life the composition was in fact overall slightly lighter than this.

Pic 1. Select TOOLS -> ADJUST COLOUR
Pic 2. Click AUTO LEVELS (This usually sorts out the exposure and sometimes brightens the colours, but you can experiment with other sliders.)
Pic 3. Much better exposure!  The almost-whites are now correctly almost-white, rather than murky dark white, while the blacks are still black.

Pic 4. Select TOOLS -> ADJUST SIZE
Pic 5. Shows original image size (even at 72 pixels/inch still way too big for HPA's 400 KB limit)
Pic 6. Changed to 40cm wide x 30cm high (my usual choice for full frame viewing on a laptop)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on August 23, 2017, 02:50:39 AM
Looks really good!  Nice work.

If you have a PC open your pictures in paint, scale them to around 20% and save them.  They will come out around the 200-300k from a 3Mb file...

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 23, 2017, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: Jack Plane
Most excellent procrastination Lurker! 
Your Camel entirely qualifies for the VMC Cookup....
Thanks, but the pictures don't show the inevitable flaws.  I've been keeping half an eye on the cook-up and I reckon the quality of the builds there are way out of my league and I wouldn't want to lower the tone.

Quote from: Andrew Darby
Looks really good!  Nice work.
I refer the Hon. Gentleman to my earlier reply to the Hon. Jack P. above :)

Quote from: Andrew Darby
If you have a PC open your pictures in paint, scale them to around 20%...
Ooh. Too easy.  Now I've got no excuse to sit down and knock up a small utility to do the job for me. Or haven't I? Hmm.... Until I get around to doing that though I've adopted your suggestion.  However the scaled images will have to go here as I can't go back and edit my last post.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on August 23, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
 ;D  watch this space i'm doing a comet p40 at 150% so it will have a 27 inch span

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on August 24, 2017, 02:03:17 AM

Thanks, but the pictures don't show the inevitable flaws.  I've been keeping half an eye on the cook-up and I reckon the quality of the builds there are way out of my league and I wouldn't want to lower the tone.


Yes, you're a disgrace to the entire aero-modelling community!  ;D

I'm curious however about your 'steam-box' - were you trying to shrink bones, or was this for the covered components?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on August 24, 2017, 07:19:22 AM
Very nice, Lurker, but please get this fine Camel over to Roman's VMC cookup where it belongs! We haven't got one there yet.
 (And unless you've got some proper botches to show us or have had to re-cover your tailplane at least three times, don't give us any guff about the build quality there being "out of your league."  ;D)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on August 24, 2017, 08:51:52 AM
Bernard, practical choice to pick the Mulligan as your first production run. Markings will be easy to do for guys who wanna print tissue since the thing is all white, and it's an easy one to fly. Not to go for a spoiler, do you care to divulge how you are gonna approach that charismatic cowling? The Gulf logo could be done as a pressure sensitive. I have been making Esaki pressure sensitive markings that really don't look like "stickers" Anyway, whatever. Good Luck on this venture!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 24, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Jack Plane
I'm curious however about your 'steam-box' - were you trying to shrink bones, or was this for the covered components?
It was an idea I had to see if I could avoid scalding myself over an open kettle when getting warps out of wings.  It sort of works, but it's difficult to judge when the item has had enough steam so I've resigned myself to getting scalded - it's for the greater good you know.

Quote from: Pete Fardell
...over to Roman's VMC cookup
Ahh, but I wasn't in from the beginning and it'd be gate-crashing. :)

Quote from: Pete Fardell
...unless you've got some proper botches to show...
  • Doesn't show up well in the pictures, but stretch marks in the two leading panels right at the wing roots.
  • Stabiliser is PC10 top and bottom not PC10/CDL.  It'll get re-covered after any hedge landing.
  • There's an infuriating film dab of PVA on the stbd rear stringers about half way down. A moment's inattention when fitting the last paper pattern.
  • Didn't get laminations completely out of the engine cowling.  If you zoom in on the images hosted on Flickr you can see it fairly clearly.
  • The upper wing window was cut 1mm too long and I didn't get the cyano all the way to the edge.  Obvious in the pictures if you look for it.
     Of course the lower window went on perfectly.
  • Had to reposition the windscreen cos I'm a ham-fisted clot so marks in the tissue just in front of that.
  • The identification number is at the wrong angle, both sides.
  • There's a concavity both sides in the upper quadrant coverings just aft of the nose block - no idea why - and a dent in the fuselage covering port side.  You can see these in the close view of the cockpit
  • This is picky I know,   but some of the tissue edges, on the upper wings especially, are more ragged than I'd like where the PC10 meets the CDL.
  • Finally and most important; I don't know how well it will fly. If it flys then all of the foregoing are completely irrelevant and won't worry me in the slightest. :)

Suggestion.  Fit the windscreen before the upper wing.

Question for Andrew D.
How badly would the lift be affected in a wing this small if the wing cut-outs weren't glazed?   I was wondering if that would be more prototypical.






Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mefot on August 24, 2017, 04:51:38 PM

  • Doesn't show up well in the pictures, but stretch marks in the two leading panels right at the wing roots.
  • Stabiliser is PC10 top and bottom not PC10/CDL.  It'll get re-covered after any hedge landing.
  • There's an infuriating film dab of PVA on the stbd rear stringers about half way down. A moment's inattention when fitting the last paper pattern.
  • Didn't get laminations completely out of the engine cowling.  If you zoom in on the images hosted on Flickr you can see it fairly clearly.
  • The upper wing window was cut 1mm too long and I didn't get the cyano all the way to the edge.  Obvious in the pictures if you look for it.
     Of course the lower window went on perfectly.
  • Had to reposition the windscreen cos I'm a ham-fisted clot so marks in the tissue just in front of that.
  • The identification number is at the wrong angle, both sides.
  • There's a concavity both sides in the upper quadrant coverings just aft of the nose block - no idea why - and a dent in the fuselage covering port side.  You can see these in the close view of the cockpit
  • This is picky I know,   but some of the tissue edges, on the upper wings especially, are more ragged than I'd like where the PC10 meets the CDL.
  • Finally and most important; I don't know how well it will fly. If it flys then all of the foregoing are completely irrelevant and won't worry me in the slightest. :)








Sounds like an above average build to me. Particularly if it was one of my builds...!!!  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on August 24, 2017, 04:55:36 PM
I said 'proper botches'. Still waiting.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on August 24, 2017, 06:09:08 PM
Question for Andrew D.
How badly would the lift be affected in a wing this small if the wing cut-outs weren't glazed?   I was wondering if that would be more prototypical.

The truth is I don't know, didn't test it without it, most models I looked at seemed to fit one so I went with the herd...

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 25, 2017, 03:05:30 PM
She flies, oh she flies!  You have no idea how pleased I am.

No film yet, MrsLurker wasn't available for camera duties this afternoon, and the breeze has really  picked up in the last hour or two so no more flying today.

Mr D.  Get your erks to paint up another victory on your crate.  The F1 kit is a corker - flies pretty much straight off the board.  Everything went from straight from a, "Hey! This _is_ promising." test glide into a very light breeze to, "Stap me! I've got a good un." in very short order.

Best (and last) flight was on about 60 or 70 turns.  In near flat calm a gentle climb to about 15' to 20' into wide LH circuit coming in for an almost text book landing.  I didn't think to time the flight duration, not even a slow count,  I was so gob-smacked by how well it was flying, but I think it was safely above 5s. I've fitted the short motor as I can't count on regular ground crew to help with stretch winding so on that basis I'm hoping to get somewhere around 20s-25s on full gas which will please me very well.  Ran out of time for more flights but it was a very, very good place to stop.

The thing that astonished me, and I do mean astonished, was the rate of climb into any sort of a wind.   A level launch into the very lightest of breezes with only 50 odd turns on would turn into a 45+ deg climb (Ever seen the Typhoon climb? That) and then the inevitable stall, but and here's the thing; it recovers really well and levelled out in good time every time.

Given the rate of climb and the general stability I reckon the wing windows could probably be left unglazed without affecting lift.

Ballasting:  Either I am infernally lucky or I was beatifically good at some point in a former life because the built in 10g was almost bang on.  If I were to build another Camel (and it hasn't been ruled out) I'd go with 8g built in to leave some wriggle room. There's plenty of room (if you use lead) for a good 8g to 10g on the back of the nose plate under the line of the nose plug.

For Pete F's benefit I've attached a few more pics to highlight the cosmetic flaws, but you know what? She flies so I don't care about them. :D

Hope to be back here in late December with a representation of K5083.  Fingers crossed.

Mods: If this post in the wrong place please move it as needs be.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Andrew Darby on August 26, 2017, 03:05:58 PM
Good news Lurks...

I think that you are far too self critical of the finish of your model, it looks spot on to me.

Have fun and enjoy.

Andrew


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on August 26, 2017, 04:10:32 PM
Yeah Lurks, even the real ones don't look that good. I think flawed is as close to perfect you can ever hold yourself to. ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on August 27, 2017, 02:34:49 AM

Best (and last) flight was on about 60 or 70 turns [...] I've fitted the short motor as I can't count on regular ground crew to help with stretch winding so on that basis I'm hoping to get somewhere around 20s-25s on full gas which will please me very well.

3 bits of thin ply and a tent-peg gives you a one-man winding-stooge on the grass.  An aluminium tube instead of the toothpick for a peg, a short length of piano wire to locate everything, and a little 1:10 winder gives you hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of turns on a longer, thinner motor.

Then its off for some serious ground-strafing!  ;D

We bought the Camel kit on a whim yesterday - the Kid and me - and plan to fit a CO2 motor in ours.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 27, 2017, 05:03:54 AM
3 bits of thin ply and a tent-peg gives you a one-man winding-stooge on the grass....
We bought the Camel kit on a whim yesterday - the Kid and me - and plan to fit a CO2 motor in ours.
X-post with the VMC cook-up.   Interesting you're going for a CO2 motor.  I had wondered if a capacitor driven electric motor might be worth trying but decided it was an experiment too far for a type (biplane) that I'd never built before. 

Thanks for suggesting the stooge idea.  Such a thing hadn't occurred to me. Something to consider for the next model perhaps.  I'm already rather too attached to this one and I think I'm more likely to enjoy lots of shorter flights without the worry of a high turn count motor ummm "relaxing" abruptly.  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on August 27, 2017, 07:04:53 AM
Hi Liurker may I suggest that when you make up a motor, make a duplicate and wind it to destruction so you will then have an idea how many winds you have. Another thing is to make a stuffing stick, where you wind the rubber outside of the plane.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 01, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
 ;D W]ELL MY 27 INCH TOMAHAWK IS ALMOST COVERED WITH BALANCE ALMOST RIGHT ON   WEIGHT IS AROUND 60 GM WITH A WING AREA OF 120 INCH SQUARE SO WING LOADING IS CLOSE TO .5 GM INCH SQ WHICH IS ON TARGET.  i CALL ATTENTION TO THE WING BOX.  THE FORMER WHICH SUPPORTS THE LEADING AND TRAILING EDGES ARE JOINED TO THE FUSELAGE.  THE TWO FORMERS IN BETWEEN ARE MATED WITH THE WING.  EVERYTHING IS THEN GLUED TO THE FUSELAGE FOR SECURE JOINTS AT ALL POINTS. i can't tell whether my caps lock is on till i finish typing cuz i gotta look at the keyboard not the screen.

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 02, 2017, 05:44:57 PM
 ;D finished it more or less. here are fillet and belly fairing details. will finish in avg colours.  she flies but well power off, she rolls and crashes. must be a stall. 


JIM ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on September 03, 2017, 11:40:24 PM
This is a 16" W/S stick job I designed for playing with a twin motor setup. I call it Bronco Billy since it is loosely modeled after the OV-10 Bronco. It weighs in at 20 grams. I tested it just before dark with a loop of 1/16" rubber per motor to get an idea of balance in the glide before upping power. It seems to glide best with balance at about 40 to 50% of chord. The wing uses an I-beam spar of 1/32 stock for the center section and a T-spar for the outer section.

ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 04, 2017, 01:57:25 AM
 ;D PB NICE DESIGN  i've see similar designs and they flew great/

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 07, 2017, 05:55:57 PM
 ;D got p40 finished this is comet 3401 at 150%

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on October 10, 2017, 07:57:46 AM
Hi Fellas
            I know this is not the right forum but I thought some of you could do with a laugh.
A friend of my daughter is having a Steam Punk Wedding and she asked for a center piece for the table.  As she is going as a Steam Punk Airship Captain and after a bit of research, I came up with what you see here. It is Stick and Tissue and the wings flap slowly and the cranks revolve and piston rods osculate via a 9v geared electric motor and the eyes in the skull and lanterns light up, it's 28" long. It was fun to build  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 10, 2017, 08:04:14 AM
Dave, I have no idea what this is about, but never mind - last night I was just wondering that we hadn't heard from you for ages. Haven't you got a backlog of models to test - the Albatros and the Staaken?!
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on October 10, 2017, 08:55:59 AM
Now you simply have to grow a mahoooosive Hipster beard and start vaping...!  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Prosper on October 10, 2017, 12:40:00 PM
All your usual creative flair Dave - but I'm a bit disappointed it's not steam-powered ;D ;D.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on October 10, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
Utterly bonkers, but in a good way. :D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 11, 2017, 01:01:35 AM
What happened to the crew Dave? It's not an airborne flying Dutchman by any chance :) It is crying out for steam power and smoke from that stack.  ::)What a table centre piece.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dputt7 on October 11, 2017, 02:20:07 AM
  You Fellas are never satisfied  ;D  I did think of maybe a candle to create some smoke but I could see it all ending in tears.
   John, I've 100 plastic figures on order that I hope to be able to modify a few for the crew, I even have photos of what the bride and groom will be wearing!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 11, 2017, 03:39:48 AM
Marvellous! Can't wait for the flight vids.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on October 11, 2017, 04:17:24 AM
That looks fantastic Dave  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 11, 2017, 06:00:31 PM
Quote
I even have photos of what the bride and groom will be wearing!
Good they can be the stokers ;D

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on October 16, 2017, 01:43:48 AM
Dave, very nice. Any trim flights yet? ;D

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on October 21, 2017, 09:37:23 PM
Diels Engineering Tigercat, 25.5" span.  Weighs 66g without rubber.  Now looking for some really really tall and soft grass...


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: steveair2 on October 21, 2017, 10:04:06 PM
Absolutely beautiful!   


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dogone on October 22, 2017, 02:40:11 AM
I have been building Nat Sterman's Claude scaled tom 24"


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 22, 2017, 03:35:42 AM
You are setting a high standard here Mike with another good effort.
Is the wing one piece or separate panels?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on October 22, 2017, 08:40:10 AM
Thanks John - the wing is indeed one piece.

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 22, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
Did you cover the top of the fuse and the wing first, then attach the wing and finally cover the bottom of the fuse?
The taper on the wing looks like it would have made it difficult to slide the covered wing through the fuse.
The wing fuse joint looks very neat.

John
 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on October 22, 2017, 09:11:32 PM
TE on the wing is trimmed just enough to slide the wing into the fuselage.  I covered the wing first, fit-checked it into the fuselage, then pulled it out and covered the fuselage.  I still ended up having to sand the fuselage slot a bit to get the wing level during final assembly.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Don McLellan on October 22, 2017, 10:21:25 PM
Very, very nice Mike.  I may have missed it, but how did you do the transition between the red and silver tissue at the rear of the fuse?  I see the black stripe, but that stripe does not line up with the rear fuse former.  Right now I'm thinking magic.....................

dogone:  again, very nice work.  Anymore pics or construction details?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PB_guy on October 22, 2017, 10:59:47 PM
Mike's build thread can be seen here: http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1499910667/6 (http://www.stickandtissue.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1499910667/6)
ian


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 23, 2017, 03:19:31 AM
What a great build!

I have been building Nat Sterman's Claude scaled to 24"
This is looking very nice too. Super smooth woodwork!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on October 23, 2017, 03:21:18 AM
Thanks Mike
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on October 23, 2017, 06:49:40 AM
Very, very nice Mike.  I may have missed it, but how did you do the transition between the red and silver tissue at the rear of the fuse?  I see the black stripe, but that stripe does not line up with the rear fuse former.  Right now I'm thinking magic.....................

dogone:  again, very nice work.  Anymore pics or construction details?

Thanks Don - the silver and red tissue joint was spliced together with dope prior to applying the tissue to the fuselage.  Same process was used to join the white-red-silver tissue on the wings.

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: malc on October 23, 2017, 07:33:41 AM
Diels Engineering Tigercat, 25.5" span.  Weighs 66g without rubber.  Now looking for some really really tall and soft grass...

Mike - Thats fabulous, I followed the build on S&T and have bought the Diels plan as a result.

Malc.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on October 23, 2017, 12:30:48 PM
Mike,
The Tigercat looks superb  :)

Dogone,
Nice build and a lovely bit of sealing and smoothing.
*bad joke alert*
Reading your footnote, is that what is known as a Navy Seal?
........ sorry.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 08, 2017, 06:50:17 PM
Andreason BA4B from Peck kit, with altered nose and wing-tips to match full-size subject.

First ever rubber Peanut, first test flights will be on pre-competition trimming afternoon this Friday in Nijmegen.

Weighs 14.3g plus, say, 2g rubber.

Jon  :)



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 08, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
Looks great, Jon. A really lovely little model. Look forward to seeing it in action shortly!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on November 08, 2017, 07:06:38 PM
Looks great Jon .... looks and sounds light too  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 08, 2017, 07:11:28 PM
Cheers guys!  My head is spinning somewhat with fatigue  :o

By the way, that little mark on the right hand side of the engine cowling isn't an ink smear - its a small oil leak from the engine!  ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: abl on November 09, 2017, 03:35:12 AM
Jon, that looks great - completed in record time, too.

(and it's lighter than mine...)

rgds

A.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on November 09, 2017, 03:52:21 AM
So cool, I am looking forward to see it (and you ;D) this weekend!
Congratulation for your speedy build.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Monz on November 09, 2017, 06:46:40 AM
Great model Jon, very clean and tidy build. Good luck with it.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on November 09, 2017, 07:08:35 AM
Very nice - good luck with it.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 09, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
Thanks so much all for the kind words.

My latest creation is actually - technically - a pair of cardboard boxes of dimensions bespoke to the boot of abl's car, which I rustled up very late last night after having finally finished the Yello Hippo.  They're rectangular in style and cardboard and packing-tape coloured, and contain lots of bubble-wrap.

Now off the big plane and currently on a double-decker train speeding across Dutch flatlands towards Nijmegen. I think it goes via Arnhem - which I assume they cleaned after making a big mess there for the 1977 film. Wide tree-lined canals and big barges fleet past....



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Konrad on November 09, 2017, 10:36:32 AM
Jon,
Very well done!
I have to ask,how do maintain such control of the tissue with these light structures? I don't see any added gussets in the corners.
Is there a link to the detailed process?

All the best,
Konrad


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 09, 2017, 12:15:18 PM
Hi Konrad

Thanks for your kind words.  I didn't do a build blog as I was very pushed for time, but my approach was as follows:

I used the Peck kit wood (average 10lbs/cu ft with some heavier/lighter), and used the stiffer stuff for the wing leading edge and spars, medium for longerons, and med-light for the tail structures.

The plan seemed a bit too economical with wing and fin/rudder gussets, so I added extra, especially at the rear of the root ribs, also at the front and insides of the centre-section

I departed from the kit wing tips design after making the wings, as my subject has the later curved tips. This involved knifing the old ones off and laminating the curves, which I felt then needed a gusset at each front LE join.

Covering was with Japanese Esaki, applied with glue-stick, fixed with thinned white glue.  The fuselage I just painted water on to shrink, the tail parts I misted and preshrunk the tissue taped onto a cardboard frame then covered with no more shrinking, and the wings I just misted and pinned down flat to dry.  Each part was then given a single coat of non-shrinking dope thinned 50%.

I always pin down using individual balsa spacers at each end of each rib (including wash-in/out as required).   For both water and dope drying I normally prefer to leave pinned overnight to give any stressed parts time to settle down, but I was under time pressure, so accelerated drying by putting the board in my hot water tank cupboard for a hour, then another hour  at normal room temperature. This seemed to work fine.

Hope to get some video footage of the bird in flight at this weekend's contest in Holland, which I'll post.

Cheers

Jon


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Konrad on November 09, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
Thank you.

I was in error about the gussets.

Again she really looks nice.

All the best,
Konrad


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 10, 2017, 04:09:04 PM
Trimming at Nijmegen late this afternoon... and the Yellow Hippo seems to fly fabulously... with a shed-load of extra downthrust shimmed in and an extra 0.5g nose-weight to stop the incessant stall/recovery cycle experienced at first.  Need to also up the rubber section from 0.109 thou to 0.125 (1/8th) and increase the loop length from 11" to 12 or so inches to max duration,  but close enough to get some initial qualifying flights in first thing tomorrow morning.

Jolly happy!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dieterperiperi on November 11, 2017, 09:43:02 AM
Heres my Peerless model rearwin speedster i finished this week.
I increased the plan size too 21” wing. Kept everything but the wing the same.
Added more ribs and bracing to the wing.
Wanted to try and keep it light and manage 17.5grams including prop, no rubber

Balance is good and test flights in the lounge! Yes the lounge, into the curtain looks good.

Cant wait for a decent day.

Maybe tomorrow



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on November 11, 2017, 10:04:55 AM
Dieter my dihedral sensors are coming up zero on your Rearwin...are you by chance flat-winging it?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dieterperiperi on November 11, 2017, 05:07:50 PM
Lol. Yes mate. Thats what the plan showed?? Might have to hang a small lead weight on a string under the fuse...to keep her rightside up....


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dieterperiperi on November 11, 2017, 05:11:00 PM
replace that string with idea with something solid ???


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 14, 2017, 02:41:54 AM
So the Andreasson's best two competition flights at the weekend - once the 1/8" rubber was increased to a 17" loop (2.5x) to allow 1450 turns, plus some other tweaks to reduce the wasteful angle of bank - were 39 and 38 seconds!  As these were ROG a 10 second bonus was added to each, so 49 and 48 second flights were recorded, putting it's flying place just below half-way.  :)

Static took a hit (okay I came almost rock bottom, but to be fair everything else on the judging-table was simply outstanding), so my overall placing was in the lower quartile.  Nonetheless a huge first-peanut learning experience!

Can't do much about the static side of things (how much was down to my very basic level of making, covering and detail relative to the grown-ups, and how much to documentation faults I don't know), but a lovely model for ongoing play.  Will try a bigger prop for hand-launching, experiment with different pitches, make a torque-meter and blast-tube, destruction-test some rubber, etc.

Early trimming ROG flight on low-turns: https://photos.app.goo.gl/KrveCn3QfRUCMRVw2 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/KrveCn3QfRUCMRVw2)

Trimming flight on longer turns (but before fitting longer motor):  https://photos.app.goo.gl/LO3Hw9FmaMNp3uIB3 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/LO3Hw9FmaMNp3uIB3)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on November 14, 2017, 02:56:25 AM
Well done for a first effort - give yourself a pat on the back.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: danmellor on November 14, 2017, 04:16:33 AM
Very nice G-BEBS!

Cheers,

Dan.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 18, 2017, 02:10:14 PM
Had a chance to play a little more today with G-BEBS, this time on a tight-ish turn in my local shoebox, but not flatter as the ceiling was feeling low and hungry!    Short of fitting a bigger (6") prop and hand-launching, final flight with the well broke-in but tired 1/8" motor wound to 100% of its maximum of 1700 turns was 45secs.  Add 10secs for ROG, that's getting happily closer of the 'magic minute':  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5aPzPBSCEzPIbrwj1 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/5aPzPBSCEzPIbrwj1)

Huge fun this Peanut game!  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on November 20, 2017, 01:50:20 AM
I was holding my breath for the first 3 circuits - it must have been quite close to the bottom of the roof beams  :)

It handles the power well.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Jack Plane on November 20, 2017, 05:24:33 AM
Yes, a bit heart-stoppingly close to the hard stuff :o  but to be fair it was the final flight of a careful series building the turns etc.  An earlier attempt had flown flatter and a bit slower but climbed higher as a result and tipped a roof-beam, thus the need to put bank back in.

For next month's session, I'm going to try the same weight of braided motor (to not upset balance) but reduce its section from 0.125 to 0.109 in the expectation of a slightly lower but flatter series of circuits.  Will this simply hold the same flight time or increase it...?  Who knows!?

Having a confined flying space simply adds to the matrix of constraints... and so becomes addictively challenging and thrilling in equal measure!

Jon  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 08, 2017, 09:34:38 AM
A Gollywock for Phil Ball to take proxy to Lost Hills in February. Looking for more fluorescent pink!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 09, 2017, 01:18:53 PM
A Baron Knight II  coupe, sort of. I squared the fuselage (so it goes in the stooge) fitted a modern prop, a slightly larger and lighter tail for hopefully-better stall recovery and  VIT to try and cure the skewed loop in strong wind. So I’ll call it Baron Knight III


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on December 09, 2017, 01:30:50 PM
Is the VIT really allowed?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 09, 2017, 02:11:42 PM
Do you mean for the 60s Coupe comp? No - it isn't intended for that. This is my 'modern' coupe!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on December 09, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Glad to see the modern coup here.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on December 11, 2017, 01:39:32 AM
They look neat Bill. It seems you're having a ball with these duration models.
Happy flying.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on December 20, 2017, 05:30:34 PM
A Fireball XL5. Span about 7", wing loading about 5lb/sq foot.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on December 21, 2017, 03:26:31 AM
A Fireball XL5. Span about 7", wing loading about 5lb/sq foot.
OK Venus?  OK Steve. Right. Let's go....

Altogether now....

I wish I was a spaceman, the fastest guy alive.
I'd fly you round the universe in Fireball XL5
Way out in space together conquerers of the sky
My heart would be a fireball....

:D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: F F modeller on December 21, 2017, 03:36:48 AM
Welcome home!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on December 21, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
 ;D  this took longer tan expected so now its done. the p60 shark.   looks like the p37 which flies great.  i'll be testing this in the new year. trials in my basement are indicating its ok with minor trimming

jim ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on December 21, 2017, 04:46:26 PM
Interesting subject Jim. Hope it flies well for you.

Merry Christmas
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on December 22, 2017, 05:15:59 PM
Here's my latest build - Comet Navion from the Diels Engineering reproduction kit, 17.75" span.  Came out light (for me anyway) at just under 20g balanced with two 11.5" loops 3/32" rubber (1.5x hook-peg distance).  There's a few bits of gingerbread I'd like to add, but I think I'll wait until it's at least somewhat trimmed out.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on December 22, 2017, 05:53:50 PM
Another well finished and built model. That's an unusual FW up the front.

cheers
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dieterperiperi on December 22, 2017, 06:16:12 PM
Very nice Mike.  Thats got to be one of the most attractive canopy shapes out there. Love it


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on December 22, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
Another well finished and built model. That's an unusual FW up the front.

cheers
John

That would be my ugly attempt at a Nason clutch.  Not terribly pretty, but it works!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BalsaGuy55 on January 30, 2018, 03:30:41 PM
Here is my latest build--Guillows 502 FW190.  This is my second build since I resumed modeling after a 50 year break.

Build Notes:

1.  I have already posted about a white stingy appearance  after applying Eze Dope.  I emailed the company and I'm still awaiting a response to see if there is a remedy for it on future builds.

2.  The tissue is Easy Built Models brown domestic which ended up looking sort of orange-red.  

3.  The decals went on much better than my last build, probably because they were fresher. On my Hellcat, the decals virtually fell apart when I was trying to apply them.

4.  I covered the fuselage wet with two pieces and then one small dry piece on the bottom.  This was much faster and looks better although it took me several tries to get the hang of it.

5.  I built a functional nose block since I intend to try and fly it.

6.  To save weight, I did not include the rear window assembly,  wing fairings and  various other fairing pieces and "cartridge chutes".  I'm thinking about rebuilding this some day as a static model and will use the detail pieces then.

7.  I increased the dihedral to 1 1/4" and incorporated 1/16" washout on the trailing edge of the wing.

8.  The landing gear will attached with magnets which I am waiting for a shipment to arrive.

All in all a fun build and slightly more difficult than the Hellcat.

Now it's on to the Avenger!   8)

Dan




Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: faif2d on January 30, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
go to this site and look at some of these kits.  You are doing too good a job building to be stuck on Guillows kits.
http://www.peck-polymers.com/golden-age-reproductions
These are kits that you have to cut out the wood parts but the wood tissue and everything else are really good quality.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: FLYACE1946 on January 30, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
I like the functional nose block idea. Just might make this work...  Thanks for the photo too.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BalsaGuy55 on January 30, 2018, 05:55:15 PM
go to this site and look at some of these kits.  You are doing too good a job building to be stuck on Guillows kits.
http://www.peck-polymers.com/golden-age-reproductions
These are kits that you have to cut out the wood parts but the wood tissue and everything else are really good quality.

That is a very nice compliment!  Thank you. :)

Moving on to some of the more advanced kits is definitely on my agenda.  I like the Peck kits a lot.   

Tissue covering is something I still need to get better at.  Covering wet is tricky and I'm still refining my skills. 


Dan


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BalsaGuy55 on January 30, 2018, 06:06:43 PM
I like the functional nose block idea. Just might make this work...  Thanks for the photo too.

Here are a few more pics, if they help: :)



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Balsa Ace on January 30, 2018, 08:08:00 PM
Great work on your FW 190,BalsaGuy55.

Scott


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BalsaGuy55 on January 31, 2018, 03:08:46 AM
Great work on your FW 190,BalsaGuy55.

Scott

Thanks Scott  :)


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on January 31, 2018, 05:35:54 PM
A Fairchild Argus for the UK Eddie Riding designs comp. Nearly done. Needs screens and struts. DC Dart and will be 8oz. 36"


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: BalsaGuy55 on January 31, 2018, 06:40:14 PM
A Fairchild Argus for the UK Eddie Riding designs comp. Nearly done. Needs screens and struts. DC Dart and will be 8oz. 36"

Very nice.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: ironmike on February 04, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
Nice Bill
Here is a close up on the Rumpler awaiting
first trim flight.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 13, 2018, 05:07:45 PM
A Fokker DII, modified Peter Rake design. 36", Mills 75. In retrospect I'm not too keen on the scheme, but the photo makes it look more nauseating than it is. I'm getting to the bottom of my pile of unfinished projects


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 14, 2018, 01:36:13 AM
Very nice work Mike and Bill. The rigging apart from the neat covering and finish, caught my eye Bill. It looks suitably in scale and is a quite visible black colour.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on March 19, 2018, 06:30:23 PM
 ;D at last finally got camera, cord and pics together

here is my italian job spitfire and the rebuilt beaver

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on March 27, 2018, 06:47:57 AM
I just started a Headley rubber Fw47. I didn't know it was this big. Five days so far


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 27, 2018, 08:24:14 AM
Wasn't the Fw47 - the smaller one , causing you grief Bill? it's good to see a man determined to get the thing to fly.

It does have nice big wings.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Rich Adams on March 27, 2018, 08:30:22 AM
Nice FW47 Bill. I have always liked aircraft from that era. Our FAC rules here tend to make most people shy away from designs like that because "they are not competitive". I beg to differ if they are done well.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Crabby on March 27, 2018, 09:33:36 AM
Bill good going so fast! Here is my old FW47...I am redoing the starboard wing as we speak. Its 36" ws. Funny I just decided to get the thing back into the air, and you post yours today. As far as competitive, all I can say is Tom Hallman, who I usually can't compete with, watched an earlier FW47 of mine sail over the horizon, on a trim flight and was happy to see it go. If I was a believer in dethermalizers I would say this plane needs one. Good luck with your new attempt! I am in love with this plane as you might guess! keep us in the loop!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: dieterperiperi on March 30, 2018, 05:57:01 PM
Just about finished with Comet Red Racer. Covered with red and white Esaki and then hand painted with Rust-Olium Painters Touch Multi Purpose Paint (lots of colours and £2 for 20ml). Only painted the top of wing and stab to save weight and as it stands with only rubber missing - 9.08 grams with WS of 12 3/4”. That landing gear adds a lot and makes it very nose heavy. Hence the 0.5’gram tail skid wire (and I think its still going to need some at the back) Carved 4 3/4” balsa propeller.  Very satisfying build.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on March 30, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
It's a charming little model DP.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on May 17, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
I saw Ivan Taylor this week - here's his new 42" Zero


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: yagua on May 17, 2018, 07:52:06 AM
 :o :o :o :o :o
Is that beauty for rubber?


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on May 17, 2018, 08:35:09 AM
:o :o :o :o :o
Is that beauty for rubber?
Yes it is


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: DavidJP on May 17, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
So very very good.  Very enviable progress on your part as well Bill. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on May 17, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
That's a beautiful Zero. The structure looks almost delicate and very clean. I trust Ivan's judgement but the rear aileron spar to me looks like it may need care when covering.

I like all the formers for the stringers in the rear fuselage.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on May 18, 2018, 02:15:42 AM
I like all the formers for the stringers in the rear fuselage.
John
John, two out f three 'formers' are just little bits of 1/16" glued between and sanded to the curve. They are to support the tissue and reduce sag because he then smears the whole thing with light filler and sands smooth so the stringers can't be seen


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on May 18, 2018, 06:20:15 AM
Thanks Bill. That's a neat idea - very clever. The whole process wouldn't add much weight and it would certainly look more authentic.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on May 18, 2018, 08:24:01 AM
No, it adds little weight and looks great but I wonder how much less filler weight there is to balance against the extra wood


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 20, 2018, 05:57:16 PM
A KK Invader from the new Ripmax laser-cut kit. A nostalgia trip. I've fitted a DT and AR.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 20, 2018, 08:02:32 PM
Lots of fun -it will no doubt fly a lot better than your first one Bill - the benefit of better balsa and building experience. AR on the inside rudder only I would guess.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on July 21, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
Yes John, the centre skid. It's not an ideal shape for a rudder but it will work. Unfortunately we got to the field only to find I'd hooked it up wrong, starting with it over to one side and swinging to straight on release


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 21, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
Ah - what a pain. That's a clever idea to use part of the skid for a rudder tab. It's a pretty little model.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on July 23, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
T-28A, from a prototype short kit by PT Aviation.  24" span, tissue finish, just under 54g balanced without the rubber.  Need to finalize a freewheeler and attach the prop, then it's ready for trimming.

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: LASTWOODSMAN on July 23, 2018, 02:38:10 PM
What a fine collection of ultra-realistic flyers Mike !!  8)
You keep outdoing yourself with the color schemes  :o  :o  too, with that North American Aviation T-28a  "TROJAN",   Wright R-1300-7 radial (800 hp) engined, military trainer.

LASTWOODSMAN
Richard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on July 23, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Beautiful work Mike and I can see your T28 performing well.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: MKelly on July 23, 2018, 11:15:46 PM
Thanks John.  Hope to get it in the air this week.

Mike


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: rgroener on July 24, 2018, 01:00:04 AM
Very cool Trojan. Good luck with the trimming.
What looks good, normally flies good. I am sure it will be the case!
Keep us informed.

Roman


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on August 09, 2018, 09:00:37 AM
 ;D  finally got access to camera
here are
1 baby blue, the younger brudder of orange crush (see air trails cruiser)
2 pics of buzzard JR
3 21 inch guillows ZErO  converted from Rufe plan
4 easybilt spitfire again beefed up structure

jim


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 09, 2018, 07:31:48 PM
Not to mention all the models on the floor in your  "model force".

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 18, 2018, 11:37:35 AM
Been waiting a long time to scratch this particular itch.  A Walthew MK II by Roland Scott.

Unballasted weight is 49g which, given the bare bones weight, is a bit higher than I was hoping for but with a bit of luck I'll get an AUW no heavier than the high fifties which shouldn't be too bad.

Very windy here today and the news from the met. wallahs isn't good so I've no idea when I'll be able to trim and or fly it, but at least the grass is coming back on the Lurker Industries Aerodrome so when I do get a chance to test it I won't be launching it onto "concrete".


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Pete Fardell on August 18, 2018, 11:50:40 AM
Very nice, Lurks! Good luck with the flying.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 18, 2018, 07:18:48 PM
It looks very period Lurk. It's easy to see why that under camber was a real test of covering skills.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 19, 2018, 03:17:53 AM
Quote from: Pete Fardell
Very nice, Lurks! Good luck with the flying.
Ta. I felt that I had to make at least a token gesture in support of the parish obsession with yellow schemes.  :)
Looks like we might just get a calm this evening. Fingers xed.

Quote from: OZPAF
It looks very period Lurk. It's easy to see why that under camber was a real test of covering skills.
It does doesn't it?  It's difficult to see in the photographs but the shape and symmetry of the fuselage is really, really pleasing, at least to me.  The concave wing isn't too bad, it helps enormously that it's a constant chord wing.  I just struck unlucky with one panel which gave me an excellent opportunity to indulge in my other favourite hobby, grumbling.  :)   I'm not sure I'd class this as a beginner's model though.  Perhaps in the context for which it was designed, i.e. a club with experienced builders on hand to offer help and guidance, but not, I think, one for an unsupported ab initio builder.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 19, 2018, 03:23:04 AM
Ah no. Definitely not :) Good luck with the weather.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: LASTWOODSMAN on August 19, 2018, 07:58:45 AM
Hi Lurker!  That Wakthew MKII  is a really nice  :o   parasol wing glider.    Or are you going to  put a prop into it?  It really does look "period".   And the big undercamber of the ribs is very attractive.  Not the easiest thing to do.   Good luck with the wind.  I will be ready to fly again tomorrow, but the wind is  forecast to be 12 mph gusting to 19 mph for tomorrow ... so no flying for me  ...  :-\

LASTWOODSMAN
Richard



Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: TheLurker on August 20, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
Quote from: LASTWOODSMAN
....parasol wing glider.    Or are you going to  put a prop into it?
Burn the heretic!! :)  Nah.

Mr Scott drew up plans (search Outerzone for Walthew) for a rubber powered version of the same basic airframe, but I think that the changes that were necessary to turn it into a successful rubber powered flyer robbed it of its elegance.  However if you are into vintage designs the 1950 Aero Modeller article (also Outerzone) describing the rubber powered variant reports some very impressive flight times even for the reinforced airframe (i.e. heavyweight) variation for beginners which is what was published.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mmitch2782 on August 25, 2018, 12:18:35 PM
Keil Kraft Competitor ready for covering.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 25, 2018, 09:40:25 PM
Boy - that brings back memories! I built one when I was 16! The kit box doesn't look like a original KK box?

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mmitch2782 on August 25, 2018, 09:49:51 PM
Hello John, and I bet yours wasn’t laser cut either.  Nice kit.  Good plans and balsa. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: Mmitch2782 on August 26, 2018, 08:28:17 AM
T-28A, from a prototype short kit by PT Aviation.  24" span, tissue finish, just under 54g balanced without the rubber.  Need to finalize a freewheeler and attach the prop, then it's ready for trimming.

Mike

Mike, Great detail on the Trojan. Back in 1973 I saw a lot of them in Pensacola as advanced trainers and others being reworked after returning shot up from VN.

Today I would buy one if I could. They would make a great 2 seater. 


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on August 26, 2018, 06:15:39 PM
Quote
Hello John, and I bet yours wasn’t laser cut either.
No KeilKraft original - print and strip wood. I made the mistake of not selecting hard strips for the longerons - it had a few dips along the fuse!
This also helped it's demise when due to a bad launch it hit the ground with quite a few turns - the prop stopped and the fuselage rotated! :)
I've always intended to build another as it did show signs of flying nicely.
Good luck with yours.
John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on September 07, 2018, 03:03:16 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  time to git off my butt and show what i've been up to

i'm writibng a book on making model planes for my two grandkids so my knowledge won't be lost when i'm gone.
the four planes are
easybilt p40  shows half shell construction, building wings separately and mounting them to fuselage
comet clould buster (guillows Flyboy)  shows box fuselage
blue ridge special  shows stick fuselage, movable wing position and diagonal wing construction
flying aces hellcat neo dime  shows box and former and pass thru wing with wing as one piece.

i pack a lot into one plane ::)

all planes fly just fine 8)

book will show step by step details on doing it one pic is a thousand words.

jim ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: OZPAF on September 07, 2018, 08:02:15 PM
Good on you Jim. Good luck with the book.

John


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 03, 2018, 11:34:16 AM
A new Coupe, devoid of anything innovative or clever. It's essentially a Baron Knight but everything thinned down to reduce drag, including the section. Weighs 73g - no beacon yet.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on October 03, 2018, 11:55:49 AM
Bill

A very nice looking coupe, well done! What prop are you using, or is it one based on Gavin's?

I've not forgotten the prop design you asked about, but haven't managed to track down the drawing! Are you going to the Coupe de Brum, as I hope to get to N Luffenham (if my chum gives me a lift)?

Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 03, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Hello Peter
Yes it's still Gavin's prop. I fear the boom will move the balance point back so the wing will have to go with it. I don't know what people do about that. I could have put the RDT forward but that brings its own problems.
Yes I'll be there


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on October 03, 2018, 03:22:21 PM
Hi Peter/Bill

When are both dates please? It's about time I brought my models out of retirement and flew them. Nice looking model by the way.

All the best, Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: PeeTee on October 03, 2018, 04:58:33 PM
Tony

2nd December at North Luffenham is the Coupe de Brum.

Cheers
Peter


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: p40qmilj on October 04, 2018, 01:46:05 PM
 ;D ;D

this is my 20 inch span wildcat.  its a french design  done in pre war colours.  thank u-know-hoo for coloured tissue.

i'm waiting for good weather for the final trimming

jim ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: LASTWOODSMAN on October 04, 2018, 04:14:11 PM
Hi Jim!  Thanks for the pic or your  20"  Wildcat.   :)   It looks like you have the rear motor peg moved forward one bay  -  just like your other  models in Reply #1242.   That really seems to be the key, for easier trimming and flying, as I have recently found out myself ...!    ;)    I would say good luck with the trimming flights, but yours all seem to fly great (with out any "luck")  :D

LASTWOODSMAN
Richard


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 08, 2018, 02:24:20 PM
A new Coupe, devoid of anything innovative or clever. It's essentially a Baron Knight but everything thinned down to reduce drag, including the section. Weighs 73g - no beacon yet.
Well it's now ready to go, with every hook, band, screw etc, and the weight has ballooned to 78g which is quite disheartening. I have no idea how to remedy it next time. Lots of models have these carbon booms, the tailplane and fin are about 4g so there is no room for reducing there, and yet the wing is now much further back than I expected for a 60% CG.
The 70g airframe weight of course was set when all a model carried was a piece of fuse. Is it attainable now, with timer/rdt and beacons? I remember J O'D telling me that most models trumpeted as 70g were in fact well over that when everything was on.
No more carbon booms for me - I'll go to a rolled balsa boom, and it may also have to be a mylar wing.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RalphS on October 08, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
No more carbon booms for me - I'll go to a rolled balsa boom, and it may also have to be a mylar wing.

Did you sand the carbon boom?  Other than that - CF/balsa structure, geodetic rib placement on wing and tail, mylar covering, just dust visibility paint on.  Alum hub rather than piano wire. Square cut tips rather than curves. 

Keep at it - practice makes perfect.

Ralph


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: RalphS on October 08, 2018, 03:14:26 PM
When are both dates please? It's about time I brought my models out of retirement and flew them. Nice looking model by the way.

You just missed the Tatton Coupe event last Thursday.  Offer still open.

Ralph


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 08, 2018, 04:01:24 PM
Hello Ralph, no I didn't sand the boom. Is that normal practice? Doesn't sound healthy!
I'll try again next year. Scale models to build.


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on October 09, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
Thanks Ralph I've moved back down to the East Midlands. Better health care treatment if you know what I mean. I'm still flying, mainly rc electric glider but must fly my coupe's soon. I have too many!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on October 10, 2018, 09:50:19 AM
Hello Ralph, no I didn't sand the boom. Is that normal practice? Doesn't sound healthy!
I'll try again next year. Scale models to build.

Hi Bill, I have every intention of making the 2nd of December. Do you fancy a swap? The Coupe in the picture the one on the right all wood, the timer isn't how I like it to be honest but it works perfectly. VIT and DT and a terrific climb. BE airfoils and Wobeck tailplane. It's brand new as such not trimmed but I can do if you like, designed to go R/L and included is the prop hub complete, it's an Alex Bukin one 430mm prop blades,
designed for winding outside the model on 1/8th or 1/16th rubber, I prefer the latter on 24 strands. Total weight with tracker, not included, 71gms. I've to many of this coupe 4 in total so it'll never get flown really. Ivan T has seen them fly so hopefully he'll comment favourably

I'm rubbish at building scale and haven't really got the inclination to do so but really admire them. Maybe a rubber job that you no longer use? Doesn't have to be anything special.

Edit. Ive changed the Rudder to a fully symmetrical NACA 0008 as opposed to the one in the pic as they fly much better, mistake on my part when I built it I used my old plan.


Tony


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 10, 2018, 10:18:33 AM
Hello Tony. They look beautiful- I've only got two rubber scale models; I need one and don't bring the other out in daylight! To be honest, I can't get my head around flying other peoples' models; I even felt guilty about buying a boom off Woodhouse. I'll be interested to have a look and see how it's done. My wing is overlapping the peg.
A lot of duration flyers tell me they couldn't do scale but the truth is very much the opposite. The quality of top duration models, especially the systems, far exceeds any of my models, which are all smoke and mirrors.
Bill


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on October 10, 2018, 11:50:03 AM
Not a problem Bill, funny as I think building Coupes down to weight is quite easy wood ones at least carbon ones can weigh more normally mine are around 5% overweight. I'll show you one that I rarely fly as I daren't break it which is totally wrong but it is a complicated beast.

I'm always looking at your SE5A plan that looks a bit bigger than Doug McHards and think if I got rid of the sheeted sides did it boxed could it be done as a rubber model, but then I have no idea of what type of prop how much rubber how to rig it how to trim it and no idea which way they fly-most seems to go left that is totally alien to me! Oh and how to cover it and add scale detail all a black art


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 10, 2018, 11:53:42 AM
Ivan knows all about big rubber SE5a!


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: tctele on October 10, 2018, 11:56:11 AM
Think I saw it on You Tube and think he converted it to diesel? I've not seen him for ages hope he's keeping well and his models look brilliant. Loved the fact that when he flew F1B he made everything himself. I was his "checker offer" and calming voice he did the same when I flew Coupe


Title: Re: Show Your Newest Creation
Post by: billdennis747 on October 10, 2018, 12:02:10 PM
Well he should be at the Birmingham coupe -  I hope so; he picks my air!
Yes he converted it to diesel but as rubber, it scored 10/10 across the board on flying at his first Nats