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« on: August 03, 2012, 02:31:09 PM »

This is my Velie Monocoupe at 42 inch span and was based on the Flyline Models plans that were much modified and enlarged.  Very smooth slow flier.  Covering is silk and dope.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 03:19:54 PM »

Very nice Pat!
The side stringers sure helped.
I don't fly RC but any info re: power, weight etc., you'd care to share would help 'down the road'.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 04:53:56 PM »

Thanks Dave

The power is an AXI 2208/34 with a 9 x 3.8 prop using 2 x 1500 lipo cells.  Servos are HS-55 in fuselage and lighter servos in the wings.  All up flying weight is about 17 ounces. She has scale number of ribs and scale fuselage structure duplicated in balsa.    A really delightful slow flier.  Years ago (74) I built the Flyline Velie with CO2 power, then in 1999 I built a 30 inch version with 3 channels, and now this one.  All flew very nicely.  I love the Velie Monocoupe lines--such a classic and one of the first cabin monoplanes built in for the public.  
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 04:55:39 PM »

Pat,
Thanks for the info. I've saved it for future reference.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 06:36:39 PM »

Pat, what do you think of the model as a rubber powered FF? I've always loved the plane, but this is about the only plan I've ever seen of it, and there's a note down in the lower right corner that you can expect 8-12 second flights from it. That's the part that always put me off. I'd think that the necessary noseweight would kill the performance.

Anybody here ever cast a lead prop and spinner?

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2012, 08:05:59 PM »

Pat,
She looks beautiful. I have to ask where did you find the wheels, or did you make them? I noticed that the earlier photos show spoked wheel. The later photos have covered spokes. Again I'd like to ask how you did these? And last do you have a build thread on this fine model?

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 07:23:59 PM »

FWIW,
I just uploaded a nice 17.3"/440mm span plan for this Aircraft. Plan is by David Deadman for Rubber or CO2.
Look in "Outdoor Rubber Power Scale". Give RATZ (admin) some time to approve it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2012, 09:00:02 PM »

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The wire wheels I use are Czech made -- used to get them from Hobby Lobby but they stopped carrying them several years ago.  They came with heavy O-ring tires and I usually replace the tires with foam rubber cord that is spongier and much lighter.  Luckily, I bought several pairs of wheels back then.  They are a bit fragile since the spokes are monofilament.

The new solid wheels are the 3 inch replacement wheels available from Tower Hobbies--the pair weigh about 12 grams

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRBA3&P=X

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My car is a 356B.

 Regarding the Velie Monocoupe for rubber, I think it would be ok except for the short nose.  I did one for CO2 power back in 74.  It does have a short nose.  The kit plans say 8-12 seconds, but Hurst and Herb really didn't know much about how to fly rubber successfully.  A braided rubber motor and enough downthrust and nose weight ought to get at least 30-45 seconds

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2012, 10:14:04 PM »

Love the plane, but if it got lightened up a bit aft it could get away with less noseweight. Definitely more of a challenge than a Pilatus.

I had two 356A's, a coupe from '59 to '64, and a red Speedster like in your last batch of photos from '64 thru '70. But that's not (completely) where my handle came from. My uncle owned a red and siver Mooney Mite that had drawn N356A as part of a block of N-numbers issued by the gov't. This was in 1949. The first Porsche 356A was a 1955 model (the 356 started in 1948 but nobody ever heard of them). I just remember that back in the '50's, Porsches were objects of ridicule rather than admiration. You had to have a thick skin to drive around in one.

In 2002, I found the N-number available and used it and the original paint scheme (within reason) on my own project. The Sonex has found a happy home (It's hangared!!) up in Huntsville AL.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 08:33:36 AM »

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The wire wheels I use are Czech made -- used to get them from Hobby Lobby but they stopped carrying them several years ago.  They came with heavy O-ring tires and I usually replace the tires with foam rubber cord that is spongier and much lighter.  Luckily, I bought several pairs of wheels back then.  They are a bit fragile since the spokes are monofilament.

The new solid wheels are the 3 inch replacement wheels available from Tower Hobbies--the pair weigh about 12 grams

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRBA3&P=X

Pat,
Hobby Lobby really has changed their focus. I don't think I've placed an order with them for close to a decade now. I too have some wheels that have heavy O-rings.  Where did you find foam cording? I assume this is some kind of sewing notion.  Maybe, from the wife's sewing basket.

I did get some round foam from Manzano Laser works but is seems too large in diameter.
http://www.manzanolaser.com

I see that A2Z has some wheels on sale
https://www.a2zcorp.us/store/SearchDisplay.asp?Keyword=NSW

All the best,
Konrad
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 09:07:59 AM »

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The foam cord comes in several different sizes and I think Manzano has it.  I ordered mine from England many years ago and have no idea who the vendor was at this point.  Hardware stores or auto stores may carry it too.

The A2Z  wheels are nice (have a couple of sets) but are too small of a hub for my rc planes.  Good for ff and very light rc.  I like the Tower Hobbies Great Planes 3 inch wheels for flying off of short grass and dirt runways.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 10:21:32 AM »

This stuff may work-
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/item/SM-750070-0000/66100/Rainy's-Float-Foam.html

Check local tackle shops.

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 11:19:05 AM »

The foam cord is also known as wall caulking.  Used as an elastic sealer between panels.  Most construction supply houses will have it, but I believe that the smallest diameter is 8mm (~0.375").
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 12:16:21 PM »

Thanks guys!
You just save me 25 grams of weight!

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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 10:58:36 PM »

Foam cord tires does save weight! Konrad, I love your Curtiss P-6.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2012, 11:56:34 AM »

Outerzone just posted a 17 incher by David Deadman. It's intended for rubber or CO2, so I'd just need to lighten up that part of the structure (especially at the back end) that supports the CO2 version. Also the wing is a bit U/C-ish and wants to be more rubber-ish. But it looks more viable than FSI's lumberyard.
FSI had such nice designs...could they have known that electric was coming someday?

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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2012, 12:41:18 PM »

I uploaded that plan to the 'Gallery' here on August 13th.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2018, 07:06:52 AM »

I am looking for a Velie Monocoupe 3 view.  I have found the attached drawing on the web but it is only a thumbnail and when printed out it is not sharp.  Can anyone help as I am thinking of entering a comp at the end of the month and need it for then.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2018, 07:32:53 AM »

Bryan, I put the drawing on a word doc and pm'd you. It looks ok to me
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2018, 10:22:18 AM »

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Thanks for that, my lack of computer skills prevented me from sorting it out.  It has now printed OK.


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