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« on: April 18, 2013, 07:36:41 PM »

Anyone interested in a cookup in honor of the city of Boston?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 06:51:43 PM »

4-21-2013

I would be.

Cheers, Ray K.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 07:38:47 PM »

Im in! I may be designing one if I cant find the right plan.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 10:05:43 PM »

I'm in too.

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 01:31:33 AM »

Can't join you but love the idea.

Visited Boston back in 1994 lovely city lovely people.

Hoping to use these colours for a Boston bostonian as a guesture of remembrance.

.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Flag_of_Boston.jpg

Best wishes and condolences

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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 08:03:24 PM »

Is it just me, or does the AMA Bostonian rules not specify which covering materials are allowed?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 09:02:45 PM »


The Indoor Bostonian rules do NOT specify a covering material but require covering of both top and bottom. For several years at the US Indoor Championships/Indoor NATS, I have flown an old, beat-up, ugly Bostonian initially covered entirely with red-dyed indoor film. After a motor break following the removal of the winding tube, the fuselage now has tissue covering.

The 7-gram minimum airframe weight for indoor makes film attractive to save weight. If Gampi is banned by FAC or any other rules, the weight problem with tissue covering becomes worse.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 09:17:46 PM »

The best indoor Bostonian article that I know about is in the Plans Section at:

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_plans/details.php?image_id=2948

A really good Indoor Bostonian in a large site can ROG and fly for 5-6+ minutes. I am unsure if anyone has done 7 minutes. Mine has only broken 4 minutes once.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 10:15:21 PM »

I like the Nieuport-Beech Bostonian by Walt Mooney published in the March 1984 issue of Model Builder and available here:
http://ffmodelplans.blogspot.ca/2010/02/blog-post.html
and no, I haven't built one yet.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2013, 04:45:45 AM »

I will probably join in, designing my own...
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2013, 06:55:15 PM »

I'm looking at maybe a bean box or a simplified version  I saw posted somewhere on the net. Have to refind the link.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2013, 08:29:53 PM »

Hi Friends,
I just find the plan of Beancraft Banana and I intend to represent Brazil building it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2013, 12:17:27 AM »

I'm waffling.

However, it occurs to me that, since the rules don't further penalize the number of wings beyond two, one could make a triplane or something, with a wing sized stab. Then the wing loading would be less than for a 14gram monoplane, even though more than one wing means 20 grams min. weight. I'm imagining something that looked a bit like a longer nosed Caproni-Pensuti with a larger tail:

http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/04-Others/Janes/Pensuti-3.jpg   http://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/04-Others/Janes/Pensuti-2.jpg
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 02:59:59 PM »

Let's discuss the event.

1. I was thinking a mass launch event, we all launch at a given time on a given day. In order to accomodate anyone in an overseas locale, should we have them launch at different times (i.e. not at the arse-crack of dawn or some ungodly time in the middle of the night)?

2. I was not thinking of a weight restriction, so 7 or 14 gram versions would be OK. If this is a problem, let's get it sorted.

3. Should we encourage the use of theme decorations (albeit subdued out of respect)? I.e. Beans (for Beantown), Liberty (for cradle of liberty), etc.?

4. Use of commonly accepted design rules (for size, etc.)

5. Timing. Ugh. I have thousands of other things to do which makes me a glacially slow builder. I would like to use this as impetus to finish one that I've had on the board for at least 2 years now ... <sigh> ... so maybe we have the mass launch some months from now? 4th of July maybe? Thoughts?

6. Pictures. To make this fun I think we all should post a picture or two of the finished product.

7. Anything else? Did I miss something?

Cheers-
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 08:45:17 PM »

4-26-2013

Hello everyone,

I am thinking I will do a Nieuport Beech or a Squarecoupe, I'm leaning towards the Squarecoupe.

Cheers, Ray K.
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2013, 06:26:02 PM »

I like Dave's ideas.

I had  planned 3 black wing stripes in board on the port wing.

Ian
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2013, 06:54:15 PM »

Unfortunately, that number should probably be 4.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 12:34:33 PM »

Unfortunately, that number should probably be 4.

Yes, we can't forget Officer Collier.  Perhaps three stripes, a space, and a stripe.
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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2013, 12:50:01 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 05:12:46 PM »

Here's the pistachio Pensuti that I made Lincoln ..... would make an interesting Bostonian as you say!
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« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 05:26:01 PM »

Nice! That bird must have been interesting to taxi, or even just to land.

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I suppose a quadruplane with all black wings probably is probably a bit too frivolous.
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« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 06:22:52 PM »

It seems that most Bostonians are monoplanes, possibly due to the 6" prop rule. However, there are some things that are not clear to me from the rules. I have read both the AMA rules, and the ones on this forum as well.

1. It seems clear that there is a 6" max prop diameter, but the rules mention propellor(s), so for a twin, what is the max prop diameter of each prop?
2. If you make a Biplane with a tiny second wing, such that the second wing and the stab are a maximum of 24 sq in, does it then classify as a monoplane?
3. If you make a multi-plane model, and the main wing is 48 sq in, what is the maximum wing area of the secondary, tertiary, etc. combined wings?

No, I am not trying to 'beat' any rules, or even to twist them out of shape. But if I design a Bostonian variant, then I would like it to qualify as a legal Bostonian. And since I love multi-wing planes, I would like to work in that arena.

Ian
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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 06:51:13 PM »

Here's the 3 view for the Pensuti .... I did have a better quality printed version, but not sure where it is at the moment.
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« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2013, 10:27:16 PM »

I think this one MIGHT have a tiny bit more definition, but not much:
http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/1/5/6/2/9/a243888-184-Slide1.jpg
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« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 11:11:24 PM »

Apparently, Godel's son is making his old three views available:
http://fnjhobbies.ecrater.com/c/1591914/aircraft-3-views-plans?&srn=1
Prices are low but postage and "shipping" are a bit high.
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