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« on: March 17, 2014, 11:10:56 AM »

Sidewinder TLGs 3 & 4 under construction.
I’m adding an altimeter to the RDT/timer/tracker
circuit board in these gliders in hopes it will
encourage me to practice more. Sidewinder 2
still flying OK. Sidewinder 1 rests in a tree
in the middle of a water moccasin infested
swamp North of the current Pensacola flying site …

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 07:53:58 PM »

Beautiful!  I wants me some of that wing wood!!!  And I wouldn't mind your build skills, either.

Sorry about Sidewinder 1.

Hope you can come west and fly with us sometime; I don't know if I'll ever make it east.

--Bill
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2014, 02:59:30 PM »

Hi Bill,

I got the balsa for Sidewinders 3 & 4 from Specialized Balsa Wood, LLC.
I believe Jim Buxton recommended  Specialized in a post somewhere
here on Hip Pocket. The staff at Specialized will hand pick balsa
cuts and weights on a premium charge basis. It is nice wood.

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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2014, 02:05:23 PM »

I second Rewinged Bill praise of your efforts & will keep watching your progress with build & flight future.

Is 'Sidewinder' your design or a plan from somewhere?

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 04:26:28 PM »

Hi Lee,

The Sidewinder gliders are my own design, but influenced by the
lines of the Flash HLG. It was my good fortune to be tutored in
HLG glider flying by Dick Mathis in the early 70’s, and I flew his
Flash design back in those days.

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 11:04:41 PM »

The level of outstanding workmanship is a bit humbling, ...not unlike the Leeper's.

Nice design(and name) on the TLG Pappy, I know as I've seen them fly first hand.

John
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 11:25:20 PM »

Fast Richard was then & still is, a fine mentor & friend.
Also, I can see you take pride in your efforts.

Q: Where is it that John & U were flying together?
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 11:41:59 PM »

Hey Lee, it was the Nationals. We were on the same team!
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 03:11:46 PM »

Sidewinder TLG #3 tail installation. I find Y tails
rather touchy to align …

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2014, 10:26:57 PM »

Hello Pappy

Could you please supply details of the electronics you have mentioned.

Bill
 
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2014, 09:02:36 AM »

Pappy, I have a very easy way of attaching y tails. I glue the 1/16 skew strip to the stab first. I then put the model upside down on a flat surface. You will most likely have to push the tail boom down since it will want to rock up on the nose. I then place the stab under the tail boom till it nestles up against the skew strip. I tack it with a few drops of CA at the LE and TE. After tacking it in place, I pick it up and look at it to see if it is where I want it. If it looks good then I glue the rest of it.  Bruce
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2014, 12:35:07 PM »

Yep, Pappy, I suggest you do what Bruce said. 
That is basically my approach, except I tack the stab to boom with light swab of glue stick, then a tiny drop of thin CA at LE & TE.
Check it quick, and if I don't like it, likely it can be moved some before running final CA bead.  CA Debonder will loosen if necessary to move stab.

Good going with your build and we can fly together @ 2014 NATS!
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2014, 03:29:53 PM »

Gentlemen,

Thanks for sharing your method for aligning and installing
Y tails. The method looks so simple and accurate its no
wonder it didn’t occur to me!

Pappy
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2014, 06:55:46 PM »

Hello Bill1951,

If you are a NFFS member, please take a look
at my article on integrated FF electronics, page
32, of the July-August 2011 issue of Free Flight
Digest. Otherwise let me know and I’ll post a
picture here. Also, please see my March 23, 2012
post here on an altimeter component.

I have recently seen references on Hip Pocket,
facebook and elsewhere about lightweight commercial
altimeters. I believe they are available from HobbyKing.

Pappy
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 06:59:50 PM »

Hello Pappy
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Many thanks for your reply, I was actually thinking of installing an electronic timer possibly with a RCDT function and wondered where I could possibly get one or make one  Huh Undecided.

I fly with PeteL down here in OZ he lives Victoria and I live in Sydney. Pete has been real helpful in keeping me on the straight and narrow. I use to fly HLG till my arm gave out and I had to have an operation for a rotated cuff. that effectively stopped my HLG days.
I have only just finished a Stan Turn - Up DLG. As yet I have not flown it mainly due to errors that Peter picked up on and I have now fixed. It weighs in at 99.95 grams.
My main part of this Hobby is F1C but I have taken a sabbatical for a while from this branch of the hobby, It can be very stressful.
Anyway, any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

Bill
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2014, 07:39:32 PM »

Hi Bill. Ol' Leeper here.  FYI, Turn Up was designed by Tim Batiuk in early FF Tip Launch Glider era. Believe he held AMA record with it for a while.
Also FYI, Ken Bauer(@Airtek) makes the RDT that I & most around here use. It fits quite nicely into nose hatch setup. There is a drawing here on HPA,
by Jim Buxton. Have a search for it. 
Stan makes RDT-enabled bodies which include a Bauer RDT unit, servo & 60mAh Lipo batt, ready for shaping to liking of the builder.
Best of luck with your Turn Up, & keep us informed how U get on with it!
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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2014, 12:01:09 PM »

Hi Bill1951

Somehow I overlooked checking here on HPA
for a couple of days, sorry for the slow response.
Anyway, Leeper stepped in and discussed Ken’s
product, which is very widely used by the TLG
sportsmen.

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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2014, 04:17:55 PM »

ATTENTION TIP LAUNCH GLIDER READERS!
AM USING ALL CAPS TO APOLOGIZE FOR ERRORS IN MY LAST POST, BECAUSE STAN DOES NOT SUPPLY AIRTEK RDT SYSTEMS,
OR THE BATTERIES.
Contact Ken Bauer @ AIRTEK for those items...Stan just provides the body which is fabricated to accept Ken's unit.
Stan will supply servo if ordered. I recommend you do so, as then u know it will fit properly.

Sorry if any one was misled by my errors.
Go to Lan Langelius' DiscUSKid website for Stan's brochure pages with ordering information.
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2014, 11:29:08 PM »

G'day People,
I had forgotten about Kens RDT units. I purchased some 2 years ago then promptly put them away safe. The servos I have are 2..5g that I think were from Ken I tested the system out but it wouldn't work until I used one of the other servos I had purchased ...... works like a charm.
Thanks for the memory jog. Also I am aware that the Turn-Up was Tims design what I should have said was I purchased the kit from Stan.
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