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« on: March 25, 2016, 06:28:37 PM »

P-18 Cruiser for provisional AMA event. Anybody else fooling with these/
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2016, 07:37:41 PM »

Nice looking Curiser Bill. Didn't know you were an AMA member.


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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2016, 07:57:16 PM »

Video of the Cruiser flying at Wigs Over the Rockies

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1279528575410320&id=100000595697131
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2016, 02:43:33 PM »

Well shoot. It seems thee is an error in the Original P-18 Cruiser plan I uploaded yesterday. Ugh. I failed to show the wing offset in the posted drawing. I have corrected this issue and posted a corrected version in The Gallery.

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2016, 06:22:45 PM »

Nice job Bill!  Nice to see your handiwork back in action; the video is a good pitch for your design.  Just downloaded your revised plan and may have to slice some balsa after the Easter egg and chocolate buzz wears off Roll Eyes

I think there's an old Peck ROG prop assembly in my indoor box of leftovers, don't recall its Ø offhand, but maybe that'll meet spec...

Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 07:23:59 PM »

How about the venue we get to fly in?!
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016, 12:30:45 PM »

Can someone tell me when P-18 will be flown at Nats?  I am guessing that it will be with the other heavier models on Saturday or Sunday but I don't see it on the version of the schedule that I have.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 05:34:22 PM »

Hi, I'm Bud LAYNE, this years CD for the Indoor NATS. P!8 is scheduled for Saturday morning, goes on until noon. I have 50 kits from Mr. Marcos which are the same kits as last year. There's no entry fee for kids. Tables and chairs are provided as well as everything they need to fly, winders, etc. so come! You are welcomed.   Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 05:42:58 PM »

Can someone tell me when P-18 will be flown at Nats?  I am guessing that it will be with the other heavier models on Saturday or Sunday but I don't see it on the version of the schedule that I have.
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Billy

Following up with the AMA as I thought this was already posted, but it seems not. Hopefully in the next day or two.

I know Bud typed Mr. Marcos above, but these are from John McGrath from lasercutplanes.com.

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 09:57:57 PM »

Thanks guys!  One of my former students and I are planning to be there Thursday afternoon through Sunday.  We are planning to fly - or, at least attempt to fly -  LPP, A6, Wright Stuff, and maybe ministick.  P18 looked like it would fit within our limited skill set and I wanted to make sure we weren't missing it by getting there later in the event.
My kids fly the TSA HS event - would it be a bother if my student brought his TSA plane too?   
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 10:05:00 PM »

I would say to go for it. They are roughly similar to Wright Stuff are they not?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 10:12:32 PM »

Great!  They're very similar except ROG and a 170 mm commercially-available (trimmed or modified as desired) plastic prop. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016, 10:41:19 AM »

Thanks guys!  One of my former students and I are planning to be there Thursday afternoon through Sunday.  We are planning to fly - or, at least attempt to fly -  LPP, A6, Wright Stuff, and maybe ministick.  P18 looked like it would fit within our limited skill set and I wanted to make sure we weren't missing it by getting there later in the event.
My kids fly the TSA HS event - would it be a bother if my student brought his TSA plane too?   

Looking at the last copy of the schedule I have, Thursday afternoon will be the light stuff, F1D, etc.
You can certainly can use some of the surrounding low bay space to practice as you wouldn't want to run into an F1D.
Friday Saturday and Sunday all have viable time slots where these could be flown.

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016, 11:37:23 AM »

Thanks!  We only plan to watch on Thursday - never seen an F1D or any of the really light models fly except in videos so it will be a thrill for us just to spectate.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2016, 04:54:42 AM »

I have only just caught this. Great video, beautiful trim - terrific place to fly and entertain kids. i did think you were being brave though, flying with the fans running.

John
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2016, 10:09:57 PM »

My former student that is coming to the Nats with me flew his Carney P18 today in our 18-foot gym.  Consistent 1:30 on 20" loop of 0.070 rubber and very heavy at 9.5 grams w/o the motor.  He plans to build another lighter one before Rantoul.  We can't wait try it in a 45' site.
Same young man flew his A6 4:13 a couple weeks ago.  We're both looking forward to our first big contest.
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2016, 06:19:05 AM »

Same young man flew his A6 4:13 a couple weeks ago.  We're both looking forward to our first big contest.

That's impressive. He will do great at USIC.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2016, 08:25:05 PM »

Billy

Let me know how you and your student do/did. 
I just started a new TSA flight endurance student today.  Just starting the transition from gliders to rubber power.

Jim
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2016, 09:30:29 AM »

If this is who I think it is, he set a new record for A6 in Senior Cat2.

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2016, 10:19:29 AM »

I have a question about the tail fin. The plans show it offset to the left but the images on this site appear to have the fin inline with the fuselage. Which is the best way to go. Thanks
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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2016, 10:47:13 AM »

The planes we made from Don Mace's P-18 Hawk plans used an offset fin.
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2017, 01:41:26 PM »

The O.F.F.C. (Old Farts Flying Club) holds a P-18 contest every year as one of the monthly contests.  It is one of the more popular events.  The next one will be 02.01.17 at the Stonehurst Recreation Center gym, 9901 Dronfield Ave, Sun Valley, California.  The meeting is at 9:00AM and the contest runs from 10:00 to 11:45.  Spectators, and new fliers are welcome.  This year's contest is restricted to the P-18 Hawk design, built per plan, but any front end and prop are allowed, and an 8 gram minimum.  (We let the CD set the rules for the particular session.)

Attached is a picture of the contestants from last year's contest.  Also, we do have a formal weigh in to get on the timing sheet.  In the other picture that's Will Woods with the plane on the scale with Pete Bassone the time keeper.


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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2017, 05:10:30 PM »

The P-18 contest was held February 01.  It went very smoothly thanks to the efforts of the CD, Barry Dougherty.  The contest was P-18 Hawk, per plan, with any prop and front bearing allowed. (Per CD's discretion.)  All were scratch built except for Dave Gee's entry which was a Laser Cut Planes kit.

The results were:

1. Lowell Norenberg                    234.6 seconds
2. Don Martin                            228.1
3. Stan Christopher                    224.2
4. Pete Basone                          172.0
5. Wynn Hammer                        129.7
6. Dave Gee                              121.7
7. Bud Matthews                        119.9
8. John Buntin                            107.9


Some pictures,  Dave Gee launching,  John Buntin weighing in with Barry Dougherty at the scale, and Barry totaling the scores under the watchful eyes of Don Martin and myself.
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2017, 11:26:10 PM »

Are the times the best single flight or the sum of the two best flights?

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2017, 02:52:26 PM »

Are the times the best single flight or the sum of the two best flights?

LP


The times are the sum of the two best of five attempts.

This is a somewhat difficult room for the lighter, slower model classes since we have no control over the HVAC system.  Everyone would get better times if we could turn it off.  Bye the way, two of the guys in that list of contestants are over 90 years old!

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