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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2017, 08:16:54 AM »

An interesting point Hepcat  although I would surmise that the craft cutter models are assembled with the aid of pins or magnets. I would also point out that they also are already old hat. Current cutting edge modelling is already done with the aid of 3d printers including complete scale models. As they say,progress waits for no man,but I think there is room for all of us, including the pins,spruce and bamboo. Not sure about the nails though !!!  Grin

It won't be pink Roman. I'm leaving that one to RalphS  Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2017, 09:22:43 AM »

Mefot, you saved my day Cheesy
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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2017, 09:58:11 AM »

How about a blue recce one? I've always liked those.
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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2017, 10:15:04 AM »

Current cutting edge modelling is already done with the aid of 3d printers including complete scale models.
It won't be pink Roman. I'm leaving that one to RalphS  Smiley

Don't know how I got dragged into this - no intention of building a Spitfire.    Huh

As for 3d printed models ............. have a look at this    https://3dlabprint.com/shop/lockheed-p-38-lightning/

In the meantime still working at plug-together craft cutter work.
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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2017, 10:19:28 AM »

That's a good idea Peter although I am leaning towards a mishmash of the schemes below. All in tissue as I have no means of spraying colour and rattle cans would probably prove too heavy  Smiley
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2017, 10:24:24 AM »

My mistake RalphS, I should of course have said Jack Plane !!! :'(

I think the P-38 is a bit beyond my skills in any medium !!!
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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2017, 11:37:58 AM »

Well it's not pink-   quite RED though!  Cheesy
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« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2017, 05:06:04 AM »

PINK!

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« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2017, 12:42:24 PM »

Arghhh my eyes.... Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2017, 03:11:43 PM »

You think that hurts...?!

First up is the colour scheme for the Chris Foss Middle Phase aileron wing slope-soarer kit I'm just starting... BLACK fuselage and vertical tail parts, FLUORESCENT PINK for the upper wings and horizontal tail, and lower wing surfaces will of course be full-on 'invasion stripes' so I can see which way's up!  Shocked

Second is the Blaster 3 DLG I'm almost finished assembling, all hypermodern materials and all that... fuselage and fin CARBON BLACK, horizontal surfaces BRIGHT ORANGE, wing undersides broad B&W STRIPES for the usual visibility challenges...!

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« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2017, 03:39:11 PM »

Sunglasses are recommended for viewing the previous post !!! Cheesy
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« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2017, 06:57:20 PM »

We will allow it for the slope soarer .... but .....  Wink

The phase series were all I wanted at one point in the 70s ... managed the Phase 6 in the 80s but have dumped most of my dad's Phase Lift that never got finished  Sad
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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2017, 01:42:49 AM »

I started with the fuselage. There is quite some work for preparing all the parts before assembling.
The parts fit very well. I like the small small glue bottle with its small opening. It makes it easy to dose the glue.
A toothpick is still handy to clean the glue joints from surplus glue.
I hope to add the second half of the fuselage to the formers today.

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« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2017, 04:29:51 AM »

Wings and tail surfaces now done – all the bits continue to fit amazingly well.  One minor addition has been a couple of very soft 1/8” balsa gussets at the upper wing roots, which sit on top of the kit gussets fitted at the lower surface of the wing.  These aren’t structural but rather to avoid the risk of tissue wrinkles in the corners.

Even with the time taken to sand off the burnt edges of the parts, this has been a very quick build so far.

Mike S
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« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2017, 01:41:34 AM »

Mike, great progress on your Moth.

I wanted to go on with the fuselage, but I have a question about the score line in front of the former F3A.
If the score line is along the former 3A (red line in my pict), and the fuselage is cracked there, then the upper corner of the side pieces will be narrower then the lower corner. ( I hope it is somehow understandable what I mean... Roll Eyes)
But in the next step the fuselage sides should be fitted to the front former F1 and F2 which are narrower in the lower section and wider in the upper section..... thus the opposite of the fuselage sides...

Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks in advance Roman
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« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2017, 01:52:33 AM »

Wings and tail surfaces now done – all the bits continue to fit amazingly well.  One minor addition has been a couple of very soft 1/8” balsa gussets at the upper wing roots, which sit on top of the kit gussets fitted at the lower surface of the wing.  These aren’t structural but rather to avoid the risk of tissue wrinkles in the corners.

Even with the time taken to sand off the burnt edges of the parts, this has been a very quick build so far.

Mike S

Mike that's the sort of thing I would do  - I hate those corner wrinkles
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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2017, 02:45:44 AM »

Hi Roman,

I hope that these pictures help, my big thumbs are in the way a bit but they should give you the idea...

Andrew
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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2017, 09:30:21 AM »

Fuselage and undercart done now.  My wire bending skills are somewhat lacking, so I found the latter a bit tricky.  Once I had all the bends in the right place though it fitted together fine.  I used 5 amp fuse wire and cyano to bind it, which seemed to work fine.  It looks like a lot of wood in the fuselage, but it doesn't feel heavy.

Mike S
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« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2017, 10:11:25 AM »

That's a fine bit of wire bending Mike. Fuselage looks good too  Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2017, 11:31:46 AM »

It looks like a lot of wood in the fuselage, but it doesn't feel heavy.

Mike, I remember the late Mike Hetherington saying he used to shave wood off longerons and spacers at the back and it made no difference, but I intend to do a Tiger and will definitely trim away some of that wood, starting with the triangles right at the back. The moments look similar to the VMC SE5 and that one needs plasticene (the Camel more so!).
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« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2017, 11:56:41 AM »

Don't go overboard! My CO2 Tiggie needed a good lump of tailweight...

Cheers,

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« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2017, 02:07:13 PM »

Dan. have you flown it? I was wondering about putting my Telco in one
Bill
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« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2017, 02:27:56 PM »

Dan is right, even with rubber power the Tiggy didn't need a lot.  The Camel on the other hand...

There is no doubt that there is a lot of wood in these designs, the construction method and the aim of making them handle-able for the average Joe makes it so.  So you guys can probably hack out quite a bit especially from the rear.

Having said that the sides are made from light wood, where ordinarily you might have stiff (and heavy) 1/16" longerons.  So it's not as heavy as it looks as Mike has observed.

For any one else, (sorry i didn't point this out earlier) I did a bit of a guide to wire bending using the Tiggy undercart as an example.  You can find it at:

https://www.vintagemodelcompany.com/wire-bending-guide.html

Andrew

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« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2017, 02:41:57 PM »

I tried to pick up a Tiger from the shop today but it had gone. All they had was Spitfires. So the range are certainly selling. On the other hand, they've had a lot of Aerographics for ages, but you have to cut out the bits. How quickly we succumb!

On an unrelated topic, if anyone is interested in a big indoor site near Newark on Trent, with Weds evening meetings, I can supply details.
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« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2017, 02:48:35 PM »

Bill, buy it direct from VMC, the price is probably the same and the post is free...

Andrew
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