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« on: February 01, 2017, 11:14:27 PM »

My first balsa model in years. Practicing knife skills and the like. I have a place to work and time for it. I have found tons of great information on and linked from this site. No RC for me just yet but thinking about it. This is a newer, I think, B-24 kit by Guillows. Building as the J model. The wood still isn't very good. I built an F4 Corsair and a B-17 years ago. Hope to do the B-29 soon, from scratch. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2017, 09:20:48 AM »

Looking good, and welcome back to the hobby. You should look up Diels Engineering, the Easybuilt Pro Series, and Peck Polymers for some high quality scale models that fly great (no R/C required). Honestly, they're easier to build than Guillow's, too.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2017, 12:28:14 PM »

Welcome back to the hobby. I have had that same B-24 kit sitting in the closet for 30 years now. I hope you will continue with updates. It may finally inspire me to start on mine.  Grin

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2017, 01:16:43 PM »

You should look up Diels Engineering, the Easybuilt Pro Series, and Peck Polymers for some high quality scale models that fly great (no R/C required). Honestly, they're easier to build than Guillow's, too.

Thanks for the tip. Some nice kits on those sites.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2017, 07:38:04 PM »

I'll be following your build updates,GBB.

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2017, 09:49:17 PM »

I'll be following your build updates,GBB.  Scott

Ditto what Scott said!  Looking forward to this build!
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2017, 11:14:09 PM »

If you're looking for a twin that flies, suggest Ozark Model Aviation's B-25H.  The short kit includes laser cut former/ribs etc, canopies, vac formed parts.  You supply the strip wood.  I think an exceptionally nice kit:  http://www.ozarkmodelaviation.com/proddetail.php?prod=b25H
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 05:28:30 PM »

Made some progress in the last week or so. Ready for some sanding and filling gaps in the notches. What is a good filler that can be sanded easily? Figure I start with 220 grit paper and work my way to 400-600 grit. Probably try to tissue cover this so it needs to be pretty smooth and gap free.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 07:11:59 PM »

The peanut gallery needs a little help here. What are you planning on doing with the model? Is it a static scale example? Are you thinking of flying it? You have posted on the Indoor forum.....are you thinking this will be an indoor flying model? The reason for all the questions is that any worthwhile advice sort of needs to know the final result.

 When you say "filling gaps in the notches", what area do you mean? Beautiful workmanship, by the way.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2017, 09:05:18 PM »

Just a static model. I only posted it here.  There are gaps around the notches where the balsa broke or tore out while cutting them. The covering may not hide the flaws/defects. Thanks Grin added a pic.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 11:50:01 PM »

A great stuff I have found is Elmer's Wood Filler at the local hardware emporium. It comes in plastic containers and tubes, is a smooth, tan, balsa wood colored stuff and is water friendly. You can put a gob in a small container and add water to get the consistency you want and then just glop it on the offending spot. Let it dry over night and then sand it down with 100# and finish off with 200#. Sometimes I spritz a little water on the joint as it seems to make the stuff stick well. Where a bunch of stringers come together at the tail of a fuselage, I will glop some of the filler all around that point and it sands down to a great tissue anchor area. You can also dilute it down to a soup and brush it over balsa areas to fill the grain and as a prep for sanding. Other guys might use something different, though.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2017, 12:47:26 AM »

Only trouble with fillers is that if they're soft enough to sand easily they'll crack out of those little holes.  If they're any harder you'll end up with a knob of filler and hollows either side which is worse than what you started with! My fix on those sorts of issues is just to glue in some more of the native material - balsa wood - this sands the best and you'll never know there was an issue.  Just jam it in oversize with a bit of sandable white glue and sand back to suit
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 11:43:41 AM »

Giving this stuff a try. I thinned it enough to get it into and out of the syringe, sold separately, and it seems to be working. Sands easily and no chipping, yet. Might need a couple applications or perhaps play with the water mix. I'll post a pic later after I tweak it a bit.
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2017, 10:04:10 PM »

Been working on the tail end a bit. Figured this would help to finish up shaping the fuselage. Balsa dust everywhere. The wood filler seems to be working well in shaping the fuselage. Using about 5 drops of water in a tablespoon of filler works well. Next will be the rudder and the wings after that. Have fun modeling folks.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2017, 05:54:20 PM »

working on the rudders this past week. might try to cover these with tissue next. never done that before. I have used the plastic stuff. wish me luck. Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 12:39:21 AM »

Working on a wing of late. This is my third Guillows kit, never have sanded or shaped the LE/TE prior to building a wing. Seems to work for me. Have two more builds in the queue already. Smiley Anyone still fly gas engines?
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 10:20:27 PM »

first attempt at tissue covering, ever. the B-24 build. I used a Hobby Shop adhesive. I ask a lot of questions there so I feel compelled to buy their diluted glue. Smiley  I have put an alcohol/water mixture to shrink but have yet to dope. I would welcome comments and or suggestions. and my pooch wondering why I spend less time with her. The Tilly. some progress on the wing.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2017, 07:16:42 PM »

time for more tissue work. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2017, 08:05:09 PM »

Well your work looks pretty neat to me GB. Not a bad covering effort for your first try.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2017, 08:37:31 PM »

I agree with OZPAF. You may have been away a long time but you haven't forgotten much. This is a great forum and I am sure your contributions will be welcomed.
Why are you giantbikeboy? Do you have a Harley?  I just wondered because my son has just returned from the US after working there for eleven years and he brought a Harley back with him.
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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2017, 10:13:06 PM »

Hepcat, I rode mountain bikes for 20 years, first one was a Giant and the last one I put together is a Giant Anthem X4. I currently ride a 2013 HD Street Glide. Smiley V/H X pipe and Rinehart inserts, midnight pearl and chrome, fairly standard fare. Thanks for the feedback guys.
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2017, 04:57:23 PM »

a little more progress. almost ready for dope. I made quite a few mistakes with the covering. not too bad for my first attempt, IMO. the liberator "Witchcraft" was in town this week and I missed seeing it. I plan to attempt the same paint job. found out 45 minutes before they flew out. Sad plenty of info on the net, especially here:   http://www.collingsfoundation.org/aircrafts/consolidated-b-24-liberator/
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2017, 07:38:10 PM »

I think your covering and the whole build look just super!
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2017, 03:12:15 AM »

Very impressive and a good covering effort from what I can see.

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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2017, 11:51:52 AM »

anyone ever use this technique?
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