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« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2017, 01:35:15 PM »

Yes...just once. Shocked
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« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2017, 07:38:42 PM »

In my experience it's usually better to face downwind Smiley

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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 05:20:38 PM »

been working on the nacelles lately. too ugly to show a pic just yet. Sad I also tried my lack of airbrush skills today. another first. looks like a bunch of holes in the tissue, came in the kit. two coats of SIG nitrate thinned 50/50. a thin coat of model master primer grey acrylic slightly thinned with water. comments? suggestions? a bit underwhelmed.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 07:46:08 PM »

If I remember correctly Guillows "tissue" was really more of a silkspan type of paper.  That has a lot more holes than Esaki so it will take more coats of dope to fill all of the holes. I would try to thin it less also something like 25% thinners as that will help with filling the holes in the paper. Since this is to be for display weight will not be a problem so more coats of the dope will be required.  Your build is just beautiful by the way! Grin
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2017, 03:20:02 PM »

Thanks for the advice, I will try a 75/25 mix and see if that helps. Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2017, 04:12:59 PM »

G'day mate.  This sort of tissue is not ideal - get Esaki next time.  If I understand correctly that this will not be a flying model and weight will not be an issue then the easiest fix is probably to use Tamiya filler primer which comes in a rattle can - lightly sanded with wet n dry used wet. 

If weight were an issue I would sand the tissue lightly with 800 grit or finer wet n dry (used dry) and without blowing the dust off, re-dope with non-shrinking dope.  The fine sanding dust mixed with the dope will help fill the holes.  Alternatively some talcum powder mixed the dope will work.

The other thing you can do with this sort of crap tissue is to wipe the dope on with a piece of sponge rather than brush, so that the surface tension of the dope covers the holes.
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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2017, 06:04:30 PM »

finally got the nacelles on one wing done. struggled quite a bit on this. all the little mistakes along the way add up, and show here. I think it will still work. while sanding I poked a hole in the bottom of the wing with my pinky nail. Sad I might even have put the lower partial former on the inside nacelle in backwards. the instructions are a bit vague. on to the other wing.
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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2017, 10:59:59 PM »

quick mock-up.
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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2017, 05:56:09 PM »

have a few repairs to make in the tissue and then on to paint. I have never done well with the plastic parts on these models. that's about the only thing left though. then more paint. till then...
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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2017, 06:03:37 PM »

very nicely done!  Good luck with the rest of the finishing.
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« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2017, 07:32:53 PM »

first coat of color. model masters dark green. another coat of that and then some krylon matte clear. I started on the plastic parts yesterday, the landing gear. looks like leftover breakfast.
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2017, 04:02:03 PM »

been doing a little painting on the tail the past few days, airbrush. using blue painters tape for a straight edge. worried it will pull the paper off the frame so I did not get a good seal in some areas. have to figure out how to make and print my own decals next I think. anyone know a good source for decals on the net? just numbers and letters. thoughts? ideas?
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2017, 08:01:25 PM »

I forget the name of the font used by the USAF at that time, but you can download it and take it to a good sign shop that cuts vinyl lettering. Have them machine cut it. I can set the job up for you if you need. Right now I am knocked out by sciatica and can't get to my computer graphic station. By then someone will have a better idea for you. I have most of the military aviation fonts.
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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2017, 06:50:09 AM »

The font is called AmarilloUSAF and you find it easely on the web. Download it and put it in the font folder so you can use it in MS Words and print it in any size you need.

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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2017, 12:07:55 PM »

Yep that's the one I use. Sometimes I Crabbyize it a little by adding a stroke to fatten it up or force the width some to fit the application...Are you using your coveted B 25 J plans as a tablecloth?
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« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2017, 12:37:30 PM »

The 3 is different, as well as the 2, see here, http://www.collingsfoundation.org/aircrafts/consolidated-b-24-liberator/  I think they use their own font. I have asked about it on the site but have yet to hear back.

I have been working on a materials list for the B-25 and the plans make a nice tablecloth plus it is the only space large enough I have to keep them flat, for now. Smiley
 
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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2017, 01:30:34 PM »

picky picky picky   the stuff on the inside of the rudder would take a bit of a font search, but the Q2 on the side is doable. I had to make an austro-hungarian alphabet once for a guy when I printed tissue for his Albatross p-nut. Thankless labor for peanut shells! Angry Sad Roll Eyes Smiley Grin   please don't get any coffee cup rings on that B 25 plan.
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« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2017, 09:44:42 PM »

I have searched and cannot find a 64 bit Amarillo font. should have kept the old computer I guess. I'll just use Arial in bold in a 28 font size, looks OK. color is my next picky picky bit. meanwhile I still struggle with plastics as I mentioned previously. have a great Mothers's Day weekend all.
 
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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2017, 05:09:52 AM »

And you as well GBB.

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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2017, 04:47:38 PM »

GBB, you are doing a top notch job here. Being picky is a good thing, mother always said. Please don't settle for Arial. That's settling for chopped liver. I will set the job up for you and even do the pressure sensitives for free. Just PM me and I will get the ball rolling. Colored esaki on clear double face ultra thin.
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« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2017, 08:39:17 PM »

I really appreciate the offer Crabby. I am using this build as a learning tool. need to learn how to do this stuff on my own no matter how bad it turns out. people would likely say nice decals, what happened to the rest of it. Smiley I always hated liver for dinner, every other Tuesday growing up. GBB
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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2017, 08:48:53 PM »

meanwhile...
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« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2017, 04:00:29 PM »

GBB, Here is an example of Amarillo applied to a Classic Monogram Corsair. I build those old plastic kits for nostalgias sake. Not to beat the dead horse. I typeset these, then machine cut 'em on my vinyl cutter ( I was once a graphic production supervisor for a big tradeshow company) I used to have all the tools as a fringe benefit. I was forced to get it done or else for 28 years. I am happy that is in the past but I find there is no challenge graphically that  am not up to. that is not a boast, just the sad truth. Do it yourself, its the best way. Hit those fingers with the hammer till you learn to stay out of the way! FWIW!
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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2017, 04:45:37 PM »

that looks really nice. I have a 56" span corsair under the table right now. 2 maybe 3 builds out.
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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2017, 03:31:14 PM »

working on some paint detail. you folks ever rig a brush like this? seems to work fairly well. again my blue tape problems. a little touch up and it will be fine. Smiley
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