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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2017, 05:49:36 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2017, 06:10:40 AM »

Could you stick at least one of them in the pylon race?
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2017, 07:07:42 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2017, 08:26:01 AM »

The Fury could do well in the air race - it can fly fast, tight circles, but it is tired. Maybe it's flaming fury can be filmed after the nats....The Sopwith Tri-plane is knackered, but I might repair it enough for one final flight...of DOOM...
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2017, 08:45:24 AM »

Go for it: especially as the Fury is a bonafide air racer according to the Wiki entry for WW1 ace and air racer, Hubert Jones Penderel...

"On 30 June 1934, at the Fifteenth Royal Air Force Display at Hendon, Penderel represented the RAF Fighting Area HQ as one of ten competitors in the 14-mile (23 km) "Headquarters Race". He piloted a Hawker Fury, fitted with a Kestrel IIS engine. Flight describes the scene, "The scratch man, Wing Commander Penderel, Fighting Area, had already overtaken several others when he came round over the enclosures on the first lap, and from then on he could be seen overhauling other machines steadily." Due to the efficacy of the handicapping, Penderel finished outside the first three places."

I'm going to enter my faithful old Guillows Fairchild, which also circles efficiently (if not fast). Sadly, but understandably, its usual mass launch event has been removed from the schedule and I can't just not bring it!
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2017, 02:05:03 PM »

OK, I'll bring the Fury along for the pylon race. That's two models that are nearly ready. Just need to pull the 3rd one out of the bag for a proper busy day.
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2017, 12:26:47 PM »

Lacey coming along! All flying surfaces doped and pinned down flat whilst I mess about with the motor mounting/cowl and u/c. I'm very glad I didn't start using the bit of Esaki silver I had left before latest order arrived. It's totally different. Not nearly as opaque and would have looked a total mismatch. Why do they have to muck about with things...??

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2017, 01:44:23 PM »

I'll be interested to know whether the new batch of silver is any easier/harder to apply.
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« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2017, 05:36:36 PM »

This is my entry, the wings at least.

It is the Veron Chilton DW1.  The prototype is the one down at Old Warden.  It is a really pretty little aeroplane.

So to The point, I had some silver tissue that I had bought from a craft shop a while back the brand is "Simon Elvin".  After bad experiences with the Silver Esaki I decided to give it a go.  The shrink was good, and the dope didn't do much to disturb the silver pigment.  It's not masively shiny but looks ok, it actually looks better in the flesh than it does in the pictures...

I have had a DW1 on the drawing board for a while, it's hung about whilst other more well known models like the Tiger moth and the camel got done.  Building the Veron one has very much brought it back to mind to be finished off...

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« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2017, 05:41:46 PM »

Nice engineery lumps of metal wot you've got there Andrew.
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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2017, 05:48:12 PM »

Yes, some bits of 1" square BDMS blocks I had sawn off at work a while back, I had to prop the whole lot up on the blocks to clear the undercart wire.  The one I have on the drawing board allows the fitment of the wire later - avoiding such fussiness!
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2017, 06:27:44 PM »

BDMS? Somethingorother mild steel - what's the BD stand for?
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2017, 07:15:36 PM »

Bright drawn...

Mild steel can be any old crap usually with a nasty oxide layer and rounded corners.  BDMS is better quality, with a bright surface and nice sharp corners and overall tolerance... The former makes good gates, the later is a proper material for making engineered components...

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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2017, 07:27:14 PM »

(Not the same as BDSM then... Shocked)

I like the look of the Chilton. Looking forward to seeing the rest of it.
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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2017, 12:34:54 PM »

The new Esaki silver did seem to go on more easily, but it IS a Lacey...!

The older stuff I used on the SE and Tiggie was completely opaque. This is nowhere near. It looks similar to the stuff Andrew posted pics of on his Chilton.

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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2017, 04:53:20 PM »

The new Esaki silver did seem to go on more easily, but it IS a Lacey...!

The older stuff I used on the SE and Tiggie was completely opaque. This is nowhere near. It looks similar to the stuff Andrew posted pics of on his Chilton.

That's promising. For a kit scale model at least, I think I'd sacrifice a bit of opacity for a better covering job. You're right though- someone really needs to try it on something with more graceful curves than a Lacey.






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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2017, 04:22:32 PM »

Most of the tricky bits now done before I get laid into the Saturday Night Cider when my beloved goes to work at 9. U/C bent and installed and motor mounting sorted. Just the tank/filler mount to sort out and I can finish the covering. A week should see it done, he says laughingly...

The pic is an indication of what the new silver Esaki looks like.

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« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2017, 08:02:16 PM »

Well, I've looked at the wing pic a few times now and not felt ill .... maybe it's the fuselage ... or the 'perfect storm' when it all comes together?  Wink

Joking aside ... it's looking good Dan Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2017, 11:00:31 AM »

Cheers Russ! It looks like a Lacey... Fingers crossed, it should be the lightest KS model I've built to date. It will still be the Andreasson this year, all being well. Then I might FINALLY get on with the Bulldog! And the Strutter, and the etc. etc...!

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2017, 12:06:09 PM »

Here is the Chilton getting close to being done.  The nose block needs another coat or two of paint, and the markings and screen need adding.

With a double prop to peg length of 1/8" and a smidge if nose weight it should be in the 22-23g mark, so should float around ok so long as I can trim it!

Phil Smith was a bit stingey with the stringers so it is a bit starved horse, but it still looks quite pretty.

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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2017, 02:01:45 PM »

Lovely! Nice one, Andrew...

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« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2017, 03:20:55 PM »

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I'd say - how many is that - 2?!
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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2017, 04:24:31 PM »

...yup, 1 in the middle and 1 each side.

This would be fine, if the parts are covered with paper rather than tissue, but they are not!

The embryonic VMC design has the same few up front, with a paper covering (or like all of the models a balsa infill should you so wish) and a couple more stringers each side behind the cockpit...

The lack of stringers makes it light though!

I cut the registration letters from tissue for the top and bottom of the wing and fitted them before finishing for the evening...

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« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2017, 04:32:40 AM »

Lovely Andrew

I can well imagine it floating around!  Cheesy
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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2017, 09:00:23 AM »

Looks lovely Andrew Smiley Inspiring me to finish off my Dime scale version...
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