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« on: January 20, 2018, 05:55:49 PM »

On the 9th, 10th and 11th of November the 8th edition of the International Indoor Fly In will be held.

If we combine the 2 Interscale editions and the IIFI editions this will be the 10th time we will use the hall in Nijmegen for our competition.

More information will come somewhere in March but it is already possible to enter from today on. I will make a online register form like last year in a few days.

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Bernard Bruins

internationalindoorflyin@gmail.com
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2018, 05:13:20 AM »

The invitation will be finished up soon. But you can already enter by filling in the online form.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfvQWENHnt3fhbz23OTb5_LO81_TTJZeq81guyLbVm-y7E63A/viewform

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 09:40:16 AM »

Just 2 months away till we will be flying again in Nijmegen. Don't forget to register.

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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 09:43:20 AM »

Also got some questions about kit scale. We don't follow the BMFA rule regarding wins and exclusion. So have you won became second/third you can still register the model at the IIFI. Even if you win in Nijmegen you can register it again the year after.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2018, 12:03:55 PM »

I know all lot of people read this who know a bit about the rules.

I'm having some difficulty with my score sheet for kit scale. The rules state a max points static of 100. Flying has 5 elements with a K factor of 1 for each element. Also the rules state that there can be a max score of 340 points?

Example:

100% score for static. Both judges score all 5 flight elements with a 10 so 50 points per judge times 2. 100 points total, second flight same gives a score of 300 max. What am I missing or did I made a mistake in my rulebook? It is almost an exact copy of the BMFA book.

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2018, 01:34:20 PM »

Bernard

You miss-read our BMFA rules, I don't know if you changed it for Nijmegen.

Static is out of 100; (60% +20% + 20%) = 100

Flying is marked out of 10 for each judge x 2 judges = 20
BUT there are 6 elements to mark not 5. (Take off, Climb, Cruise, Descent & approach, Landing, Realism) Page 91 of current rulebook.
So 60 points per judge x 2 judges = 120 x 2 flights = 240 plus the 100 from static = 340.

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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 10:53:55 AM »

Plenty of pictures please! Even some 'live' progress updates would be great, so that those of us who couldn't make it this time can read about it at home while drinking beer and pretending we're really there. For the full virtual experience I might even put one of my best models on a table in front me and break a bit off it every half hour or so.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 02:11:59 PM »

Yep some pictures would be great... oops opened the beer already  Wink Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 05:26:21 PM »

".........and break a bit off it every half hour or so."

Vandal......  Philistine....  and Port and stilton for the videos.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 05:57:51 PM »

I’m afraid, slackers, that the hall is a good as ever, the locals as welcoming as ever, and the beer remains stunningly good.  AND, so far as I’ve observed, no-one has broken into a sweat... let alone broken any balsa!

Didn’t have any time to take photos this afternoon as, along with everyone present, I was entirely possessed with trimming.  Ignored both of my entered models, which can wait until the morning, but focussed just on the little CO2 Bristol Scout which took ten powered flights to get largely sorted - now takes off cleanly, climbs to head-height in a small but flat circle and descends to a gentle landing after about 15-20 seconds.  I was about to get someone to video a repeat on my camera when Bernard Iron-Fist called time on all scale trimming so the duration folks could crack on with official flights in quiet air... and all international crises averted!  Wink

Richard’s flying boat - with but a few tweaks of the Zombie flight-profiler - is a treat to behold, Mike got not one but two very newly made VMC Kit Scale jobs neatly trimmed and his new Open Rubber slow-mo also, and most of the Brit-Pack seemed to make very good progress too.

Numbers are visibly down on last year, with only a handful of Czechs yet evident, but expect more folk on the morrow - and the weekend promises good action.   Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 06:11:10 PM »

Thanks Jon! Keep the updates coming. Good news on the Scout; that’s  another nail in the ‘Scouts won’t ROG’ coffin then.
(Now stop drinking and enjoying yourself and off to bed with you- big day tomorrow!)
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2018, 02:43:59 PM »

Okay, first the good news (no, not my good news, the other good news that you've all been waiting for):  I've got videos of almost every single official flight from all classes (Kit Scale, Open Rubber, Open Electric and Open CO2) from Rounds 3 & 4 yesterday.

Now the bad news:  I took them all using my new iPad, which is a brilliant method for this task compared to my tiny camera, but I haven't the foggiest how to now transfer them to my normal Mac so they can be put online for wider consumption!  I tried uploading direct from the iPad to my usual web album but the browser didn't like it.  My IT-guru brother will help me when he's home later this evening, and as my cupboards are bare I'm now forced to go to the pub now for fish and chips... on a Monday night!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2018, 03:12:12 PM »

Fish and Chips at the Pub !!!  Grin sounds good to me.

If you plug your iPad into your Mac with the usb lead you should be able to use 'Image Capture' which ships with your Mac OS, select the iPad as the source and it should show up  a thumbnail list of the videos on your iPad. Select the ones you want and right click to choose import. You can select a destination folder from a dialogue box at the bottom of the 'image capture'

Hope this helps

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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2018, 03:56:29 PM »

Chris, thanks for that heads-up - back from the pub and they're all flowing nicely down the wire!

The pint of best was also very good! Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2018, 05:05:16 PM »

First batch now uploaded.

Rounds 3&4 of Kit Scale:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/DVGqYaW7ZiTe7j9f6

With apologies - I don't know why the resolution isn't as high as the originals...?

Also results of KS Flying below (neither Static nor combined results posted at time of photo).

And also Peanut Static and Flying results (which weren't yet combined).

Sleepy-time now.... will upload the rest in the morning.
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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2018, 07:28:36 PM »

Worked my way through a few tonight, Jon, and will savour some more tomorrow. Many thanks for filming and posting.
What stonking flying from your Camel again, with a long straight take-off run to die for. You're being quite coy, but even though I've not seen the static marks I'm guessing you nailed it in Europe as well!
Many congrats!
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2018, 01:56:22 AM »

Thank you all for your infos, movies and pictures from the event.
I did not make it this year Cry  It was planed, but I had to cancel it short before the event.
Your reports are great and I plan to be there next year again...

Jon, your CO2 bird flies beautifully!

Hope to see some more pictures from Nijmegen.

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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2018, 02:07:22 AM »

Thanks for posting the videos Jon I'm enjoying watching my way through them.

As the others have said you Camel flew beautifully again, I hope like Pete that congratulations are in order
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2018, 02:39:01 AM »

Thanks for the thanks.  Its always a pleasure to share this stuff.  Of course you chaps were missed, and you will be there in 2019  Wink

Bernard said it will be the same weekend next year, i.e. Fri 8th - Sun 10th Nov.

Re the Camel, I can assure you that it is as much a surprise to me as it is to everyone else!  You'll notice that I tend to hold the model for up to ten seconds before release to burn off the excess power phase of the CO2 motor (a change of note can usually be heard).  Too much less and the Camel will have a shorter takeoff run, a steeper turning initial climb and will thus patrol a different sector of the hall (see the 4th round video)!

Video quality is now happily HD on this morning (was all low-res last night).  Maybe it initially displays uploaded videos in low-res, but then takes time to fatten up?

Next up are the 3rd and 4th rounds of Open Rubber:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/XM4gzVEgjfKqw5sp8

Jon

PS, re the full results in all classes, maybe someone will be along later with this data...?
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2018, 02:48:10 AM »

Jon
Thanks for the videos. Glad to see next year will happen - will book my hotel today. The hall looks half-empty and the judging tables very under-populated. What was going on?
Bill
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2018, 03:03:07 AM »

It was just a quiet year I suppose Bill.  As well as our own numbers being down, the Czech contingent seemed at least half that of last year, and several other players were also missing.  The Scandies seemed intact, the French were a trio, and our hosts were both abundant and as welcoming and hospitable as ever!  THREE CHEERS FOR THE DUTCH!

The other significant difference over last year was that only one model could be entered per class, which made things considerably less stressful for all concerned.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2018, 03:18:19 AM »

These things happen from time to time and I'm sure it will be back to 'normal' next year.
My room is booked and my models half-built.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2018, 03:33:37 AM »

Final batch, Open CO2 now up: https://photos.app.goo.gl/9xWsqg3AkRXAqyTg8

Jon

PS a couple of extras:  footage of Tonda Alfery's and Wout Moerman's Pistachio biplanes, and Richard Crossley's Sainte duration model - launch and ceiling sex from one flight, approach and landing (with a less than round wheel) from a later one: https://photos.app.goo.gl/k9yWMKJaq3GHnFyaA

Hey ho!  Hey ho!  Off to work I go...!  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2018, 11:47:38 AM »

Thanx guys for the kind words. You can understand it takes time to check all the scores so results will come up in a few days. I know some want them soon for websites and magazines. Because of this I certainly want to double check all scores.

For those absent the date next year will be indeed 8, 9 and 10 November 2019. So same weekend as last few editions.

Also for those absent. I announced my "retirement" (for now). I got too much going on in my life to completely focus on this event. So Roel is going to do the next few editions. He already told that it is not a matter of, if I will return, but when. Nothing will change only a different face doing the work.

Thank you all for the last few years and hope to see you all next year.

Regards,

Bernard

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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2018, 12:25:10 PM »

And got time to read all the posts.

Hmm Iron Fist Bernard. Please do explain Wink.

I'm also wondering what is 'normal' in your eyes regarding the amount of entries?

Bernard...
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