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« on: April 09, 2018, 01:33:51 PM »

Hello all: been out of the hobby for about 15 years, have decided to get it going again. I lost everything in a house fire at that time so am trying to rely on my memory (HA!) for supplies and things...I have found FAI Model Supply, Peck Polymers, Volare (a new one to me) but I'll be darned if I can remember the name of the place where I bought composite materials. Carbon fiber cloth, Kevlar, carbon rods and tubes and such...Can anybody help with that please? I did find a place in England but their shipping costs are rather high...otherwise a 2 hr search of the web has revealed nothing unless I'm building a boat or car...lol.    Thanks, Joe
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2018, 05:56:44 PM »

First, where are you located?  There may be other modelers in your area.

Look for Component Systems Technology.  Also go the National Free Flight Society website and look the community drop down menu for Free Flight (Always Capitalize) suppliers.  Several sites for composite materials.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2018, 06:21:41 PM »

Thanks flydean1...no other modelers in my area...Northern Wisconsin...my home club is the Minneapolis Model Aero Club and even that is 2 1/2 hrs away...flying field 3 1/4 hrs. No one there really messes with composite materials. I'll check on the NFFS site...good idea! Thank you buddy!
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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2018, 12:57:11 AM »

Other suppliers:

https://store.acpsales.com/  I remember them as similar to cstsales.com

http://www.sollercomposites.com  Fabrics are a bit heavy for free flight, but they have tow, epoxy, etc. Note the leftovers for 2$ per lb in the tow section. (the scaps aren't necessarily just tow)

https://goodwinds.com/   carbon shapes, tapered booms, etc.

McMaster-Carr: among the HUGE number of other hardware type items, there are some carbon tubes, gadgets for dealing with glue, etc. When they had a paper catalog, it was 3 or 4 inches thick, and the paper wasn't all that heavy. Around here, I could get items delivered in a day or two without any special charge, although it's been a few years. Not sure how long to northern Wisconsin, but my guess is they'll still get it into the shipper's hands quickly.

Don't dismiss the boat guys. For instance, raka.com has very light fiberglass cloth, fillers, epoxy etc. I fiberglassed a boat with their regular epoxy years ago, and it's held up well. Very similar to West, I think, but less expensive. I imagine the 900 resin would be better for composites.
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other than composites:

Easybuilt: kits, newer ones are said to be nicer. Some are laser cut.

Diehls: kits with nice materials, primarily WW2

Penn Valley Hobby Center   http://www.pennvalleyhobbycenter.com/rubber/indexaircraft.htm   Now an eBay vendor. Mostly nice reproductions of old kits.

Dumas Products: some interesting laser cut kits.

Sig: You  must know these guys. Besides their old stuff, they've taken over the Herr line, which had some interesting rubber powered kits.  sigmfg.com

I don't know how up to date it is, but you might try looking up the Cottage Wings List.  There are oodles of other vendors out there.
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The FAC squadron list shows one in Minneapolis, so I'm sure you can find some free flighters there.
http://www.flyingacesclub.com/facsqdrn118.pdf

Note also the links list on the FAC page:
http://www.flyingacesclub.com/FACLinks.html
Not much about composites there, of course.

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2018, 10:08:33 AM »

I heartily second McMaster-Carr.  After the Great Hard Disk Failure of 2015, theirs was one of the first sites I revisited to bookmark.  Their WHOLE catalog is online.  I once laboriously made my own odd-thread tap  #12 X 32.  Took a couple days on my less than perfect lathe.  A chance browse of their catalogue gave me a choice of taps in that size.  Most expensive was less than 20 bucks.  At 10 cents an hour I was going backwards.

Speedy service too.
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2018, 06:16:02 PM »

R-G in Germany has a vast range of carbon, Kevlar, glass, resins, mould releases and a mass of stuff aimed at both the model and full-size aerospace market. Have a look at https://www.r-g.de.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2018, 12:12:30 PM »

Many, MANY, thanks to all who replied...CST (Composite Structures Technology) was the place I was looking for. I stumbled upon it from the list at the NFFS site.

Now, I have another question...FAI Model Supply used to offer a front end for Coupe and Mulvihill models. I REALLY liked them and used them on all my high performance models. The Mulvi sized one was called the "Simple Torque" front end and the Coupe sized one was called the "Teeny Torque" front end. These were of the "reverse Montreal stop" variety, simple and reliable...and, well, inexpensive compared to modern F1B or F1G front ends (whew, mega bucks!). I talked to the guy at FAI...they ARE looking to have someone produce them again but he didn't sound too hopeful of that happening anytime soon. Living on a fixed income does not allow me to spend extravagantly sooooo...I'm asking if anyone might have some of these front ends, used, lying around their shop? And willing to part with them at a reasonable cost? Last time I actually ordered them was right around the turn of the century so that'll give y'all an idea of the time frame we're talking about. Looking for a couple of each size...

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