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« on: April 14, 2018, 07:44:45 AM »

OK here it is, a documented journey through an F1D build.
This is a little different to the usual 'how to' threads.
I have no previous experience building one of these planes, so I've not got anything to 'teach'.
You can watch me struggle through the buid, learn new processes, make mistakes, get stuck, try again, etc.
Hopefully the thread will prove to be an inspiration to anyone else who feels like giving these planes a go.


So initial steps.
I downloaded a bunch of plans, there are a lot out there. INAV, F1D blog and HPA are good places to look.
I did a big table of the dimensions of the plane and the wood and tried to work out if there was a pattern or a formula.
There isn't really.

Wings are constrained by the max dimensions and fuselages tend to be about 750mm long.

In the end I decided to follow a published plan from Ivan Treger.
It has a world record and it looks nice and clean in it's lines.

I looked up the wood and ordered it from Nick Aikman.
Then I set about working out what other parts I need:

Here's the initial steps in my kitchen while I cook the weekend breakfast.

Pic 1 is the plans in A3 and A4 and the wood. I listed the weird stuff like boron, carbon and tungsten wire.
Pic 2 shows me testing the boom wood in a pretty rudimentary manner.
Pic 3 shows the Motorstick wood - I had two pieces that are almost exactly identical, very nice.
then the plan itself.



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« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 05:04:33 PM »

Hi Skymon !  You are INSPIRING ME ...      I am looking forward to following your first F1d build, as I have never built one - but I have seen the flights and they are pretty hypnotizing !     Shocked  Shocked     And thank you for this invitation "You can watch me struggle through the buid, learn new processes, make mistakes, get stuck, try again, etc."   Cheesy  LOL  - I will do just that.   Thank you again,  I will be following this one.   Thanks for posting everything in your build.  It will be great to follow.   Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 02:34:41 PM »

Dito on the inspiration Skymon. I am slowly working my way through the mini-quark after seeing your build.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2018, 06:35:29 AM »

OK - distinct lack of progress.
Mainly based on the fact that my partner organised a secret 50th Birthday trip to Madrid for a week.
That's over now and this is my progress...


Balsa blocks for props have arrived!

Time to start carving..

I'm using a neat spread sheet devised by Bob Bailey to create the points needed to carve the blocks.

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2018, 10:59:09 PM »

Could you point us at the spreadsheet?
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2018, 11:42:56 PM »

Skymon -

Yuan Kang Lee, a world F1D champion, has created and published an excellent step-by-step guide for building an F1D. I think it is geared toward a novice in F1D.

I don't have the link handy but someone else will probably post the same.

You couldn't find a better resource than Kang's guide. If you are lucky, he will be following your build.

Good luck with your build. F1D is the pinnacle of indoor free flight. These models are truly elegant in flight. 
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 02:50:21 AM »

Prop spread sheet is here:
http://indoorduration-gbr.co.uk/#/make-propellers/4591896868
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2018, 06:23:11 AM »

Hi Skymon - all the best with your build. In 2010 I started a similar first-timer build and ended up going to World Champs in 2012, 2014 & 2018. Look forward to hearing about your journey. cheers
Tim
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 07:59:28 AM »

https://thef1dblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/f1d-plan-construction-information/
That's the link to all the F1D building stuff, check out the rest of the site for some tips on F1D basics too.

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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2018, 10:12:40 AM »

I have only just started these, but they should also help:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkPRArS87a-qaOlUtGpnNGQ/

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2018, 12:11:39 PM »

Mike,

I watched some of your videos last night. Along with Joshua's videos and Kang's instructions; there are some fantastic resources online. Thanks guys.

I look forward to this build
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2018, 01:30:15 PM »

Any suggestions for future topics?
Will take any/all feedback.

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Mike Kirda
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 07:49:50 AM »

Rigging with invisible wire!
making square things round
applying boron to things that are not straight
rolling and gluing booms
Boom and stick joint areas
prop shaft rubber hook forms


just for starters:)
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 10:37:21 AM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2018, 01:39:46 PM »

Also Mike, you seem to be plugged in to rare material sources.

 I'm looking for that material which has infinite strength and negligible weight. 

I think it comes from an obscure district in the Far Eastern country of Shangri La and is called unobtainium.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2018, 03:15:27 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2018, 07:56:05 AM »

rolling and gluing booms
just for starters:)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkPRArS87a-qaOlUtGpnNGQ/
Episodes 9, 10 and 12 cover this, although not explicitly boom seam gluing.
Motorstick and stub seam gluing techniques are the same as a tailboom, so didn't think it really necessary for a tailboom video.

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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2018, 03:35:37 AM »

OK, so it's been ages since I started this thread. 50th Birthday activities have derailed my progress somewhat.
But, I am now back in the game!

My boom form arrived today, from Free flight supplies, a chuck glider tapered fuse section.
I also have been kindly donated some boron by a fellow local flier, which was very much appreciated.

So now I have a complete F1D, just in basic kit form.

I will be doing some building over the weekend and hope to post progress on Monday.
Thanks for watching:)

Si
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2018, 06:37:33 AM »

Hi Si

I too am encouraged by your F1D build and am interested in how things proceed.


Also I am embarking on the same journey - building my first F1D. You are a little ahead - I am still assembling the tools and materials required.

I look forward to your progress

Cheers
Dave

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