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Title: New stuff - well not really
Post by: glidermaster on July 29, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
I was clearing up the balsa box recently, and before I knew it, I had built another Night Train wing.
Actually, I broke the wing of the older of my 2 Night Trains at Lost Hills in Feb, and elected to build another rather than repair (again).
Like most of my stuff, better viewed from at least 10 feet, and even better, 500 feet (Night Train has quite the climb!).
John


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: gossie on July 29, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
Looks ok.  But what are you doing to crash them?


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: TRuss on July 29, 2017, 07:51:01 PM
Looks good.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: glidermaster on July 29, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
 It wasn't a crash this time Howard, just to an awkward DT. A repair would have been quite straight forward, but that wing had been repaired 3 times before. I fly with the likes of De Shields, Hannah and Tarvin, who are masters of stylish finish, so a scruffy model is, well, it's just not on, really.......

JB


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: FF Bruce on July 30, 2017, 12:31:54 AM
Very nice John, the Train must go on.We need that model to represent a golden time in FAI power.You are the man to do just that. 


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: BG on July 30, 2017, 10:35:27 AM
Nice John, though as Ladi says, "flying god does not care about good looking models!" ...said with a gravely Czech accent with happy guy hanging out of corner of mouth.  ;D

BG


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: Hepcat on July 30, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
Glidermaster John,
In my early years as a fanatical followed of the FF religion I had the benefit of rubbing shoulders with, (sorry, licking the boots of) many of the best in the business (including your Dad of course).  One important thing I learnt was that the only reason to use more than one colour on covering a model was to make it easier to see when in a thermal, or a corn field, or a tree. Patches were regarded as medals for carrying on flying in adverse conditions. They could be any colour or even made from the bag you took your sandwiches in if time was short.
My, my, how times do change.  In a few decades art galleries will have special rooms devoted to the specialized colours and patterns of the Artisan miniature aeroplane makers of the twenty first century.  Actually John your decoration is the most refined I have seen and if I wasn’t so old and crabby I would admit I like it a lot.
Hepcatjohn.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: danberry on July 30, 2017, 07:52:09 PM
Glidermaster John,
In my early years as a fanatical followed of the FF religion I had the benefit of rubbing shoulders with, (sorry, licking the boots of) many of the best in the business (including your Dad of course).  One important thing I learnt was that the only reason to use more than one colour on covering a model was to make it easier to see when in a thermal, or a corn field, or a tree. Patches were regarded as medals for carrying on flying in adverse conditions. They could be any colour or even made from the bag you took your sandwiches in if time was short.
My, my, how times do change.  In a few decades art galleries will have special rooms devoted to the specialized colours and patterns of the Artisan miniature aeroplane makers of the twenty first century.  Actually John your decoration is the most refined I have seen and if I wasn’t so old and crabby I would admit I like it a lot.
Hepcatjohn.


Patched airplanes fly better and also intimidate the opposition. I poke a hole and do a patch before the plane ever gets a test glide.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: glidermaster on July 30, 2017, 09:43:32 PM
I had a good chuckle at both the last 2 posts, after scratching my head a bit at Bernards.

Here are the old and new together - not so bad the old one, really. But the camera doth, in fact, lie - bigly  (to use a Bill Dennis expression).

JB


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: gossie on July 30, 2017, 10:36:50 PM
They both look good to me.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: glidermaster on July 30, 2017, 10:48:40 PM
Further to the illustrious Hepcat's post, I did find that the red/white scheme of Night Train was not very easy to see, climbing slowly in a succession of Fab Feb thermals, so the new one has a black circle under the right tip as a visibility aid. We'll see if it helps, but I observe that Bruce Hannah uses quite a bit of black in his colour schemes. Years ago there was an article in an Aeromodeller  annual, that put red at the top of the visibility chart (I think).
JB


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: FF Bruce on July 31, 2017, 12:17:48 AM
Yes John I use black more now that my eyes aren't as good at picking out little tiny dots of white or yellow.I like red but the chart I saw orange was the winner,good in the sky and on the ground. But the color doesn't much matter if it's a pile of sticks a few feet in front of you.
i hope you get the train trimmed out with the new wing,I think I see a little of Bob D. influence in there. See you in a few weeks.
 


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: gossie on July 31, 2017, 12:26:15 AM
Black is good for distance.
Red is good on the ground.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: billdennis747 on July 31, 2017, 02:41:06 AM
In the current Aeromodeller, Dave Hipperson discusses colour and yes - black is best but I also use fluorescent pink on tips and fin. You can see it in the air and on the ground from a very long way.


Title: Re: New stuff - well not really
Post by: Mike Thomas on July 31, 2017, 02:53:08 AM

Patched airplanes fly better and also intimidate the opposition. I poke a hole and do a patch before the plane ever gets a test glide.

I have always thought that there would be quite a market for pre-patched tissue for these very reasons.