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Title: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Bargle on November 26, 2018, 06:45:26 AM
I found these some years back and thought they might be (or not) of some small interest. They were taken by my father back inthe late 50s-early 60s, somewhere in the eastern US. Whatever event it was, it seems to have had a good turn-out. I thought maybe someone would recognize the fellow holding the p-51. In any case, enjoy.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: gossie on November 26, 2018, 07:10:07 AM
Thanks, and looks just like it did all over the world at that time.
So what went wrong?


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: mike on November 27, 2018, 04:06:19 AM
I was born in 1950.
Life has changed.
Most of the folks alive in the 1950s had just survived WW2.  They were used to 'make do and mend' and being patient, waiting for their endeavours to bear fruit.  Aircraft had seen a massive period of exciting development and had been a major factor in the conflict.  Money was short - if you wanted one, you made it.
Now, aircraft are noisy, late, crowded ways of rushing around the globe.  A few young people may be attracted to aeroplanes but everybody has a credit card and can get whatever they want at the click of a mouse.  Commerce has realised that and advertises 'the next quick thrill' 24/7.  So people search for instant gratification as their right and 'sitting down to make something' can't really compete.

Just had breakfast - there must have been some extra cynicism in the porridge.

Sorry if this has diverted the aim of the thread...


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: duration on November 27, 2018, 09:08:05 AM
Good to see photos of the way it was.

As a kid in the 1950s the big local contest (Memphis, Tennessee) was sponsored by one of the local men's clubs, a local sporting goods store, and the morning Newspaper that gave the junior high point winner a free trip to the Nats. The men's club provided timers (all in white shirts, khaki pants, and pith helmets) and boxed lunches.

All that went away in the mid-1960s.

 Porridge not needed this morning.

Louis



Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: billdennis747 on November 27, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
All that went away in the mid-1960s.
I always enjoy re-reading Barry Haisman's irascible letter in the 1957-8 Zaic Yearbook!


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: flydean1 on November 27, 2018, 01:39:18 PM
I remember when 1/2-A gas had more than 300 entries at the NATS.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 28, 2018, 05:04:13 AM
I thoroughly enjoy looking at photos of aero modelling activity of long ago.  I look too for a little urchin in short trousers that might be me!

Because it was often a Sunday when these events happened all the men were smartly dressed in jackets and trousers and ties and many wore trilby hats.  

I think the Second World War did enhance the interest in aircraft as Mike says above.  The kits I think were in short supply but solid models were available during the war and I remember sitting with my Cousin who was a few years older and my mentor at the kitchen table hacking way at impregnable balsa with half a razor blade.  The kits were barren - a few vaguely shaped pieces of balsa a short length of wire and a pressed tin prop that had to be twisted for pitch. And a few waterslide  decals.  After the War we were into flying models - Skyleada and Astra were common names. But wood harder than any balsa I have ever used.

Then the events - Northern Heights Gala at Halton -  at Ford in Sussex and all over.  Train and bus was the only means of transport.  But we were happy doing it.  Model shops were plentiful - there were 4 or 5 within ten minutes bike ride where I lived in South London.  Local Parks were for flying model aeroplanes.

To me Mike it is not cynicism - more regret that those days have gone.  Yes I know some will talk about the hardship etc. True there was some - but it was not that bad.  The streets were safe - kids were kids and we had no hang ups. We were disciplined and understood that nothing was for nothing.  People had a sense of pride in more or less everything and entertainment had to be made as often as not. There was radio of course but there were otherwise no buttons to press to keep one amused.

I welcome progress of course but I think somehow we have in a number of cases mishandled it.  I am very glad I lived through the period I did.  

At the age of about eleven I joined my first model club.  In 1950.  Ahh, said some of the men - good to see young faces - if we don't get more youngsters participating aeromodelling will be dead in ten years!  

Bill -  could you post Barry Halsmans letter please - can't recall it.    


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: billdennis747 on November 28, 2018, 05:50:50 AM

Bill -  could you post Barry Halsmans letter please - can't recall it.    
Sorry David, I've scanned it but it's come out at 6 squillibytes


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: RalphS on November 28, 2018, 05:56:38 AM
The mention of trilby hats by DavidJP reminded me that I was given an old model club photo along with a 1940/50 built Bowden Mouse.  I don't know any of the people but wondered if one of them was Barry Haisman (also previously mentioned).  I met Ivan Cameron who designed the Cameron 1941 Flight Cup Winner who told me a sad story from his club days.  Perhaps he also appears on this picture.  I like the kids and the formal attire required to fly models in the UK Winter - or it could be Summer.  

The original photos in this thread remind me of a similar photo story in a 1940's Aeromodeller about American model meets of that time.  Looks wonderful.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 28, 2018, 09:10:10 AM
Thank you Bill.  That sounds interesting - so whee do you get those?  All I get are boring Mbs and GBs!  And I don’ t know what to do with them either.  Of course some of Pylonius’ stuff is prophetic on occasions - in 1066 Clarion.

That was a pretty typical line up Ralph.  Note the short trousers.  Whenever I see those I think of the winter of ‘47 and trudging the mile or so to school and my blue knees.  No wellies then! Or ch.  Do you know the club?  The chap at the back far right looks familiar. 


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: USch on November 28, 2018, 09:40:30 AM
I always enjoy re-reading Barry Haisman's irascible letter in the 1957-8 Zaic Yearbook!

That had running me to the bookshelf and take out the yearbook. I admit I know by memory nearly all of the drawings in the book but had never read the aforementioned letter.

An' eye opener! If only I had read it 50 years ago  :( :( :(  ;D

Urs


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: RalphS on November 28, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
Do you know the club?  The chap at the back far right looks familiar. 

The club was Liverpool MAC.  I had wondered if it was Barry H.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: USch on November 28, 2018, 02:11:59 PM
After a lot of hard work,  ;) , here the copy of Barry Haisman's original letter to Frank Zaic. Included also the 4 drawings for beginners models, if anybody feels like teaching to youngsters after the read  ;)

Urs

Edit: I had to substitute the first pages, so the sequence is upset, just follow the page numbers  >:(
Re-edit: now it is as it should be


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Starduster on November 28, 2018, 04:13:48 PM
I've often wondered:

1) How many AMA Delta Darts have been built/flown since they were first introduced?

2) How many people, after building one, stuck with the hobby?

3) With all the "Ballyhoo" (to quote Mr. Halsman) regarding S.O., I wonder how many of these kids continued with model airplanes as a hobby?



Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Indoorflyer on November 28, 2018, 06:41:21 PM
I don't think many have time for "hobbies" these days.  Young Eagle flights provided by EAA members, however, are very successful in helping young people find a career path.

Gosh, I think Barry and I could enjoy quite the conversation over several beers!



Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 29, 2018, 03:21:47 AM
I don't think many have time for "hobbies" these days.

I really do wonder at that!  Having lived through then and now!  I think there is far more leisure time now than years ago.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 29, 2018, 03:33:47 AM
If its got a screen it will divert your attention, and suck your imagination and your dough elsewhere  :(

I did indeed have cynicism on toast for breakfast, but I've just added powdered pragmatism to my coffee :)



Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 29, 2018, 03:40:50 AM
I don't think many have time for "hobbies" these days.

I really do wonder at that!  Having lived through then and now!  I think there is far more leisure time now than years ago.

Yes.  If you really want to do something, then you'll find the "time" for it.

Met a bloke once on holiday on the Norfolk Broads, a shore-based Chief Petty Officer in the RN also on holiday with his lads.  He'd built an Iain Oughtred 16ft clinker ply dinghy based on a traditional Shetland working boat.  Asked him how long it had taken, he replied:  'Six months of not watching Coronation Street!'


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 29, 2018, 04:16:06 AM
But a P.O. would have become disciplined.  TV surely takes second place to stroking tablets and phones which is also killing the art of communication.  We have to face it - most of today’s younger generation are not interested in diy hobbies and entertainment.  They may be masters with technology but it is a narrow field. Some cannot read an anologue clock it seems. But that is fine - does not affect me and they are happy.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: cvasecuk on November 29, 2018, 04:56:22 AM
Starduster..
1) A very big number
2) A very small number
3) Another very small number
Ron


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 29, 2018, 07:51:12 AM
Ah, it’s turning into the old “older people using devices with screens to communicate their disapproval of younger people  spending their free time on devices with screens” thing again.
Don’tcha just love it!  ;D


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Ex Member on November 29, 2018, 08:40:16 AM
Ah, it’s turning into the old “older people using devices with screens to communicate their disapproval of younger people  spending their free time on devices with screens” thing again.
Don’tcha just love it!  ;D

I am afraid we are, but I'm resisting the temptation to hit back on behalf of us lazy, computer and screen obsessed young 'uns.  :D

A picture of the first Meeting of the NMAC in 1937...  Gotta love those pre-war trousers!

Andrew


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 29, 2018, 08:45:42 AM
No Pete I am not disapproving - I said it does not affect me and they are happy so it is fine.  And I urged acceptance of the situation.  And I have not been reading the Daily Mail either.  And when you think of it if a quarter of those youngsters who like stroking smart phones and tablets etc. were to fly model aeroplanes every flying site would be terribly overcrowded.  And what about the devastation of the Balsa forests if a lot of them graduated to building model aeroplanes?  I think I have always tried to be fair and not condemn people for what they choose to do, provided it is legal, or even what they may think or say because generally we try very hard to have unselective equality.   ;) 8) :D


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: billdennis747 on November 29, 2018, 08:54:30 AM
Andrew, is that Nottingham MAC? I joined about 1965 and at that time it was 100% c/l combat and stunt. I got roped in for mass production of Dominators and traipsed around village fetes where there was always a combat comp. Obviously there was a sea change at some point after 1937. Any idea where that photo was taken?
Yes - excellent trousers. Plenty of room for a winder, winch or sandwiches.
Bill


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: planesjimmycam on November 29, 2018, 09:25:36 AM
Hi Everyone,
 I found this photo doing some research , it shows models being flown at Philadelphia Airport opening day in 1938. I am sure they put a few flights in to show the spectators!
  Jim


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Snaky Stringer on November 29, 2018, 12:55:47 PM
John O'Donnell once told me that he ascribed the vast amount of modelling he was able to do to not watching television.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 29, 2018, 01:42:43 PM
Maybe I'll start turning up to events in a shirt, tie and trilby and see if we 'youngsters' can't reverse the trend in standards! ;D

My defence of today's kids really stems from my son's experience. He used to occasionally join me at flying events and got fed up with (some) older blokes making smart alec remarks about him sitting there looking at his phone. What annoyed him was their assumption that he should be taking more interest in the model flying instead, and that an obsession with computer based technology is by definition unhealthy. Well he and  several of his friends have built their own PCs from parts researched, saved for and purchased online and by talking to each other on their various devices. They save their money and spend it on computers in just the way the more enterprising children did with model kits in the 1950s. Once the computers are built, they play with them, or rebuild them, or tweak them, or make another. They can program in computer languages which are a complete mystery to me and if they can't do something, they research it through youtube, forums, talking to each other and goddness knows what other means. As well as all the computer stuff he learns piano, reads a lot, goes indoor climbing, and is in an athletics club. His friends have all sorts of other interests too.

So yes, it's a bit annoying for them when they hear someone say, "All kids do today is play on their computers or stare at their phones."

Rant over. As you were..... (and I like the old model club photos as much as anyone!)


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: TheLurker on November 29, 2018, 02:53:35 PM
Maybe I'll start turning up to events in a shirt, tie and trilby ...
One wouldn't be seen in public without one's trilby, or panama according to season, but I'm afraid that one draws the line at a tie. :)


It should also be pointed out that apart from anything else the hatband is a jolly handy place to hold small odds and ends that would get lost or broken in a pocket.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Ex Member on November 29, 2018, 02:59:22 PM
Andrew, is that Nottingham MAC? I joined about 1965 and at that time it was 100% c/l combat and stunt. I got roped in for mass production of Dominators and traipsed around village fetes where there was always a combat comp. Obviously there was a sea change at some point after 1937. Any idea where that photo was taken?
Yes - excellent trousers. Plenty of room for a winder, winch or sandwiches.
Bill

Yes it’s the Nottingham club, the picture was taken at Tollerton...

Andrew


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 29, 2018, 03:07:54 PM
@Pete - Hear! Hear!  :)


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Crabby on November 29, 2018, 03:25:17 PM
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

I wonder if Socrates was a freeflighter ::)


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 29, 2018, 05:08:31 PM
I would say those "Old Blokes" you mention Pete are at least a little naive!  "Playing" with computers?  Well, I often say I "play" with toy aeroplanes.  But  denigrating myself more than  anything. 

I suppose making a receiver - tiny by the standards in those days - using an XFG1 valve was my only claim to technological prowess.  Tottenham Court Road was the source of parts. The science master the mentor.

Well J O'D I watch very little TV but my output falls very short!

You are of course right to defend todays kids Pete as certainly some deserve it - but equally other people have the like right to highlight cases where the situation is different.  Perhaps those of us writing here have unwittingly been a little intolerant.  Too entrenched perhaps?   


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DHnut on November 29, 2018, 05:35:49 PM
Pete and David,
 


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: FreeFlightModeller on November 29, 2018, 06:41:46 PM
I don't go back as far as some, but this is one from my early days in the Leicester MAC.
Some have said it's not me, but I'm pretty sure it is me on the left. Taken at Abbey Pastures in Leicester, approx 1974?

I probably mark the point at which style was lost?  ::)


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 29, 2018, 06:51:19 PM
What are you keeping in your trouser leg that necessitates you tucking it into your sock? Ferret?


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: FreeFlightModeller on November 29, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
There's enough room! ... I think they were a dreadful 70s take on Oxford Bags?
'On me bike' of course ... I lived about a mile at most from the club's main CL meeting site. It's all fenced off astroturf pitches now ... but we would never have been allowed to fly there in today's world


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Buster11 on November 29, 2018, 08:01:57 PM
Not a model in sight here, but this is the 1947 Flight Cup contest at Epsom Downs. The infield of the racecourse is maybe 1.2km x 600 metres, but in those days we flew three flight contests with five minute maxes, and probably parachute DTs. Entries were in the mid- hundreds. There were plenty of young competitors, and they had all built the models they flew, probably in their bedrooms, using real razor blades that could cut you, real pins, and real dope (usually sleeping in the same room where the dope was drying). Nobody died. No parents sued the kit manufacturers for not pointing out that you weren't supposed to eat the wood or that razor blades were sharp, and the balsa cement tubes didn't carry labels telling users that they were made of lead (HORRORS!) and that biting the ends of the tube to break the hardened cement off might not be a good plan, but we did and the results of lead acetate ingestion haven't manifested themselves so far 70 years later.

I think one of the valuable things about building, flying and competing with a model aircraft is that it keeps you in touch with reality from an early age, and it gives you the satisfaction of creating something that works. Flying it with other people, some with far more experience, but still dealing with the same laws of physics, builds confidence and develops an interest in exactly the things that STEM is all about.

A couple of weeks ago there was a report that British medical schools were now getting concerned that many surgical students had virtually no manual skills; adept as they might well be at swiping an IPhone or tapping a screen, they had never cut anything with a blade or sewn anything with a needle or actually made anything with their hands, so the very basics of a surgeon's profession were unknown territory to them. There, that's a nice encouraging thought for anyone planning on any surgery in the future....


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Konrad on November 29, 2018, 09:44:24 PM
...

A couple of weeks ago there was a report that British medical schools were now getting concerned that many surgical students had virtually no manual skills; adept as they might well be at swiping an IPhone or tapping a screen, they had never cut anything with a blade or sewn anything with a needle or actually made anything with their hands, so the very basics of a surgeon's profession were unknown territory to them. There, that's a nice encouraging thought for anyone planning on any surgery in the future....
Scalpels are being replaced with lasers, just like our kits today. Scalpels are a throw back to the days when you went to the barber to get stitched back together.
The last tumor I had removed was with a laser, less trauma to the surrounding tissue, or so I'm told. In my last trauma room visit I was patched together with staples and tape. Not a stitch to be found!

Today most medicine has moved away from slicing and dicing to looking more like a chemistry set. I have a lot more respect for the lab technician than I do any surgeon. They developed the drugs and actually run the tests. Most of us would still die on the table if it wasn't for the anesthesia chemicals.

Actually I'm happy that my surgeon is adept at swiping his cell phone. It is an indication to me that he is up to date on the literature.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 29, 2018, 11:34:05 PM

A couple of weeks ago there was a report that British medical schools were now getting concerned that many surgical students had virtually no manual skills...


So I was recently on an old Intercity train back from London, standing by the doors at the end of the carriage a few minutes from my stop.  One of the windows was open, which was a bit of relief as the main carriage area had been hot and stuffy.  Got chatting to a youngster, about 18, sweet chap, from Worthing on his way to stay with friends in Wiltshire he said.  It was quite noisy and getting gradually colder, and after a while he asked me how to close the window - to his jaw-dropping astonishment I stepped over and pulled it straight up!  ;D

Yesterday on a brand new Intercity train to London for another meeting, terribly crowded as it was missing half its carriages and running slow because it couldn't use the electricity laid on for its benefit and one of its its three diesel engines wasn't working.  A load of us were rammed in the 'lobby-area' between the palatial lavatory and the main carriage.  Every single person who came to use the loo had to ask how to open its curved electric door!  In the meantime the automatic doors to the main carriage kept opening and closing with the rapidity of an automatic rifle as the sensor registered the tiniest movements from any of us sardines.  In the end I whipped out from my wallet a yellow-sticky (on which was written my shopping-list for later) and stuck it over the sensor, while the guy the other side (originally from Tanzania, so we had much in common) then acted as the 'door-activator' (by nodding his head) for any bladder-full person he saw squeezing their way along from my side.

All the while the sour-faced young woman adjacent to me remained anaesthetised by her mobile phone, its external wiring plugged into her amygdala.

After a couple of Tube rides (bless the old-fashioned trains with their worn upholstery!) I emerged from London Bridge station.  The only interesting person amongst all the dangerous pedestrians careering down the pavement blinded by their phone-screens was a lonely hunter-gatherer... scouring the wind-swept concrete for cigarette butts.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 30, 2018, 03:21:03 AM
...
A couple of weeks ago there was a report that British medical schools were now getting concerned that many surgical students had virtually no manual skills; adept as they might well be at swiping an IPhone or tapping a screen, they had never cut anything with a blade or sewn anything with a needle or actually made anything with their hands, so the very basics of a surgeon's profession were unknown territory to them. There, that's a nice encouraging thought for anyone planning on any surgery in the future....
Scalpels are being replaced with lasers, just like our kits today. Scalpels are a throw back to the days when you went to the barber to get stitched... Actually I'm happy that my surgeon is adept at swiping his cell phone. It is an indication to me that he is up to date on the literature.
The report was quite widely discredited when it came out, because it was based not on any evidence but on a grumpy older surgeon’s belligerent opinion (along the usual lines of ‘it was better in the old days and these kids know nothing’). That said, there is no doubt that, in all fields, old skills are lost and new ones are gained. Whilst ‘helping’ my son put his computer together I didn’t have a clue what any of the bits were, but WAS able to tell him which way to turn the screwdriver to tighten a screw! Unfortunately he’ll remember that now so my useful days are numbered. I was also a bit more dexterous than him when manoeuvring the bits into position. I’m not sure if that’s just due to having had years more practice though. Here’s quite an interesting report that backs up the new boys like Konrad’s surgeon...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46036095


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 30, 2018, 06:48:24 AM
Apologies for my part in derailing the subject of this rather excellent thread.
To make amends, here are a couple of photos from Aeromodeller: Oct '55 and Jan '56 respectively.

(The second pic is from an article with the snappy little title of  'Aeromodelling in Education; fourteen points in favour of the hobby as an aid to education, outlined by J. A. Brown'.)


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 30, 2018, 08:09:59 AM
Ah... I remember once building a Dolphin!

Here's a lovely one from #GirlsCanAlsoAeromodel.

I just made that up - but please don't read anything 'cultural' into it!  The Dolphin could even make an ideal home for a 2-chan RC brick saved from some horrid foam ARTF micro-aggression!  ;D


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: FreeFlightModeller on November 30, 2018, 08:26:32 AM
That's pretty in pink!


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: FreeFlightModeller on November 30, 2018, 08:31:56 AM
Not a derail, Pete .... I think the time we live in does dictate our skill set, but does not affect our innate ability to acquire that skill set.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Starduster on November 30, 2018, 08:40:13 AM
To make amends, here are a couple of photos from Aeromodeller: Oct '55 and Jan '56 respectively.


Strange, I know, but the first thing I noticed in that first picture (after that huge antennae, of course!) was the guy on the bike in the back (with the drop handle bars). It looks like he is doing a "Track-Stand" very causally, with his hands in his pockets!


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: PeeTee on November 30, 2018, 08:52:29 AM
The Hayes DMAC no less, a bit before my time but still going strong!

Peter


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 30, 2018, 09:02:07 AM
I’m currently sitting in my local Costa reading AM Oct 1957. Came across this pic of the British team at end of the World A/2 Glider Championships in Czechoslovakia. They finished 9th out of 20 nations. Flag held high! I like the caption.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: billdennis747 on November 30, 2018, 09:20:32 AM
That'll be Eddie Cosh behind then? I didn't know Costas kept Aeromodeller to read.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Jack Plane on November 30, 2018, 09:53:45 AM
Were questions indeed asked in the House?

Perhaps Cafe Nerd  or Pret Anallergy carry old copies of Hansards?


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 30, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
I didn't know Costas kept Aeromodeller to read.
Just a few under the counter copies for their best customers. You have to say, “...and I’ll have some ‘dope’ with that please” and give them a knowing wink. Try it.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: glidermaster on November 30, 2018, 11:27:49 AM
That's too funny Pete.........
Jackets and ties? - a pic from the early 60's at Chobham common, the stretch behind the people and the bushes is now the M3
The 2nd shot was taken by Buster11, and that's me about to tread on the A2 wing. At Chobham, too, circa 1959 or 60.

JB


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: billdennis747 on November 30, 2018, 12:26:22 PM
Is that Mike Gaster with your dad John?


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: USch on November 30, 2018, 01:14:08 PM
How comes.... Glidermaster's reply and picture vanished from the topic  ???

Urs


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 30, 2018, 01:39:33 PM
I must air these two incidences - and look forward to comment...

First in a large shopping mall I had made a small purchase in a large branch of Smiths and paid cash.  Having opened the till it then collapsed and would not show my change - but bless her the assistant coped and used her fingers to calculate the amount.  The second...... a young lad revealed that he could not tell the time by an analogue clock.  But declared it did not matter because his phone had the numbers which changed.  I am sure I did not imagine either.

Sadly Pete I have discovered that the BBC News is most unreliable - by personally witnessing some events and then sometime later seeing the report on the BBC.

That you help your son with his computer matters is a very significant reason why he does what he does - responding to being encouraged and stimulated and so is beyond the mundane business of simply stroking his iPhone and tablet and playing games on his computer.

Of course I have to side with Buster somewhat because we are of a like generation so that makes us grumpy and intolerant of younger people and progress.  Make allowances please.

Returning to topic - any more photos please?


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: glidermaster on November 30, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
It was Mike Gaster Bill, and Urs is right, where did my post go??


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Mark Braunlich on November 30, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
I may have posted this before.  If so, I apologize.

The photo here shows competitors in a flying scale contest held in conjunction with the 1932 National Air Races (USA) at Cleveland, Ohio Municipal Airport.  The young man in white holding his Fokker D.VIII model is an 18 year old Chet Lanzo who would go on to do great things in the model world.



Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: Mark Braunlich on November 30, 2018, 02:33:31 PM
I don't know anything about the date or location of these photos.  Probably late '40s.  I saved them because it shows my favorite gas model, the So-Long.  The trophy hardware seems very elaborate, even for those days.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: DavidJP on November 30, 2018, 04:49:56 PM
Here are two - 1936 Wakefield (in America).  The sartorially elegant fellow on the right and left respectively is justin aleman - the 1934 winner.  Am going to dump my striped  striped Henley Regatta blazer I think and find out who his tailor is.  The young lad is Alwyn Greenhalgh (Later Commander).   Bert Judge holding his winning model.


Title: Re: Old Model Meet Photos
Post by: riversidedan on December 01, 2018, 03:39:38 AM
I was born in 1950.
Life has changed.
Most of the folks alive in the 1950s had just survived WW2.  They were used to 'make do and mend' and being patient, waiting for their endeavours to bear fruit.  Aircraft had seen a massive period of exciting development and had been a major factor in the conflict.  Money was short - if you wanted one, you made it.
Now, aircraft are noisy, late, crowded ways of rushing around the globe.  A few young people may be attracted to aeroplanes but everybody has a credit card and can get whatever they want at the click of a mouse.  Commerce has realised that and advertises 'the next quick thrill' 24/7.  So people search for instant gratification as their right and 'sitting down to make something' can't really compete.

Just had breakfast - there must have been some extra cynicism in the porridge.

Sorry if this has diverted the aim of the thread...

I agree, its a "I want it now world...…..how pityful is that