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Title: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on September 14, 2019, 04:17:46 AM
Has there been any info on this, other than the initial announcement almost immediately after the last one?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on September 14, 2019, 08:39:57 AM
No info yet on here as far as I know, but I emailed recently to double-check before booking my accommodation, and the reply was that the event is on.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Graham Banham on September 14, 2019, 09:55:09 AM
I emailed Roel and the IIFI email address recently too: no reply to either although the original invite did say the final schedule will be sent mid-October. I assume then the entry details will be sent well before then (i.e. now) as clearly entry numbers will dictate that schedule.......


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: john bowerman on September 14, 2019, 03:36:23 PM
I replied to the earlier mail advertising the event, but there were no application forms in the mail.
I mailed back advising this and the reply came back that further info would follow later but I could enter via the web page.
I decided to do this as no money was involved.
The web address I was given is as follows.
https://forms.gle/oPYmRobbVY9KayrM9
I have, as said made my entry but I do not know if it has been accepted or received.
I guess they know what they are doing but it it getting very close to November now.
Hope this helps
John


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on September 14, 2019, 04:18:41 PM
Past experience has shown they are pretty dependable, I see nor reason for worry or doubt. I follow the event facebook page too. They did say they were going to send / upload entry forms and this is still to come. But nothing negative has been posted either, so  think it is normally underway...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on September 14, 2019, 05:10:53 PM
I agree with George and have no doubt at all that it’s all in hand. If anyone feels like worrying about something though then why not put that nervous energy into getting some more models finished?

 (Or perhaps it’s only me who’s not quite ready yet?)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on September 15, 2019, 03:04:35 AM
I don't think anyone has said they are worried - just waiting for info before booking a ferry


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on September 16, 2019, 11:39:11 AM
Apparently facebook was much easier to see and reply. I imagine they will post here too.

Bernarnd is not the event organiser this year, Roel is.

He replied that more info will come out by the end of the week. I Imagine the full schedule.

Anyway, regarding bookings etc, it is still valid that we have acces from Friday noon until Sunday, the main competition being on Saturday and Sunday.

Hope that helps...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on September 16, 2019, 03:27:05 PM
Cheers George, that tallies exactly with what I've been informed.

The main thing now is to get those pesky models ready!  ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on October 01, 2019, 04:16:05 AM
Just to make sure, since it wasn't posted anywhere.

I imagine those involved have already received per email the information buletin that was sent last week...

George


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 01, 2019, 04:28:51 AM
Yes, got it thanks! Not long now. Just need to get the entry form in.
(I rather like the included ‘reserve model’ concept whereby you can substitute a spare model if you wreck your best one in the early rounds.)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on October 01, 2019, 08:42:35 AM
I haven't received any bulletins or forms by email.  ???


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 01, 2019, 09:20:25 AM
I haven't received any bulletins or forms by email.  ???
Yes, we had a meeting and I'm afraid you're banned this year.  ;D



Only kidding. I've just forwarded you the recent bulletin, assuming your email address (that I got off one of the other scale emails) was the right one.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on October 01, 2019, 09:27:00 AM
Cheers Pete  ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 02, 2019, 09:56:36 AM
Just found out that the hotel Tim and I usually stay in ('Sous les Eglises') is booked up. I have the accomodation list from Roel, but if anyone else going has any hotel recommendations please could they PM me. Thanks
Pete


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on October 02, 2019, 10:38:08 AM
Not a chance that I would ever be able to go, but I look forward to the results ... whenever that might be ... and good luck to those entering .... whoever they might be  ;)



Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Graham Banham on October 02, 2019, 01:04:09 PM
Pete, check your PM


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on October 02, 2019, 02:34:16 PM
Ditto.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on October 02, 2019, 03:09:22 PM
All beginning to sound a bit hush hush  ::)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on October 02, 2019, 03:45:41 PM
Sorry Russ... if I told you I'd have to...  ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on October 02, 2019, 04:01:07 PM
I'm an undercover aeromodeller and a master of disguise .... I will penetrate your group .... and you will not know that I have done it.
I have also been to the Arthur Bostrom School of Acting.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on October 02, 2019, 04:20:15 PM
Thanks all! Turned out we could've squeezed into the Sous les Eglises after all but only if we shared a bed. It worked well for Eric and Ernie of course, but all things considered I've now booked us into the Rozenhof instead. Thanks for the info Graham and Jon. It was possibly Jon's "food is excellent" that swung it, although I have to say it will do well to top the pub next to the old place.

Anyway, not long to go now. Who's bringing a trimmed model?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Tim Horne on October 02, 2019, 06:17:07 PM
Who's bringing a trimmed model?

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :o


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on October 03, 2019, 03:02:42 AM
Who's bringing a trimmed model?
Well, last night I was glueing the tail on one of my models and thought I'd throw it around the garden to check the trim. It stalled a bit so I stuck some packing under the tail TE. It was no better so in went some more, and more. I gave up when it nearly looped and it's sitting there this morning with about -5 degrees. It was about 3am when I suddenly sat up in bed...
Time to take up trainspotting.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Mercoman on October 03, 2019, 07:45:05 AM
Hi Nijmegen

I have flown once or twice at Buckminster.. distance is a bit prohibitive though. My usual flying field is 1min drive away!

Cheers

Mercoman


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: BernardB on October 27, 2019, 09:26:27 AM
Everybody ready guys?

See you in a few weeks. And no worries, all the entries made with the online form are put on to the entry list. One thing you could do to help us out is to send the model choices.

Regards,

Your former CD (but for how long??? ;))

Bernard


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 02, 2019, 04:09:44 PM
Oh that lovely warm feeling you get when the models you’re taking to Nijmegen fit exactly into the box you’ve just ordered from Amazon!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 02, 2019, 04:22:50 PM
I may have said before ... I love a really useful box!
I guess that the box came in a box?  ::)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 02, 2019, 04:36:45 PM
I love a really useful box! I guess that the box came in a box?  ::)
Yes, the box the box came in, being a bit bigger than the box, was my back-up box if the box wasn’t a big enough box, but it was.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 02, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
Two for the price of one plus p and p then!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Tim Horne on November 02, 2019, 05:34:17 PM
Very neat Pete.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DHnut on November 02, 2019, 05:43:18 PM
Good flying at the weekend Pete. The box looks a very practical solution to the vexed problem of travel with a model. I have to make a custom box to fit in the overhead locker together with a method of carrying it as well as securing the models to avoid hangar rash for the indoor models. In the case of the outdoor box I also add a lot of bubble wrap to prevent movement as well. I am still looking for a food container that is not brittle for tools. The current ones have fractured due to impact of hand tools.  Ricky


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Graham Banham on November 02, 2019, 07:07:57 PM
5mm foam board, B&Q duct (why is the brand name Duck?) tape and some aliphatic works well too: separate box for each model though...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: flydean1 on November 02, 2019, 07:22:43 PM
It's called Duck Tape because it's used for fixing quacks (cracks).


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Tim Horne on November 02, 2019, 09:12:34 PM
It's called Duck Tape because it's used for fixing quacks (cracks).
Where is the "groan" emoji when you need it :D

As we are doing travel box "show and tell" here is mine, knocked up today and big enough to hold my entire fleet!
Large, overengineered and very heavy, it's a perfect match for the models it will carry ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on November 03, 2019, 03:13:00 AM
It's called Duck Tape because it's used for fixing quacks (cracks).
No; in the words of Talking Heads/Everly Pregnant Brothers, you need
'Polyfilla
That's the stuff
To f...f...fill up, to fill up me (my) cracks'


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 03, 2019, 03:47:32 AM
I see your new model is ready Graham...  ;)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: BernardB on November 04, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
Please send your model choices to us.

Email is the best way to go. See you on Friday...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffscale on November 06, 2019, 12:31:53 PM
Here is my new Nijmegen model box - built from 5 mm foam board like Graham's. 

inside you can see a Comet 54" span Taylorcraft.  Max permitted weight 200 grams.  My all-up weight?  199 grams.  So, if it needs a touch of nose weight, I'll have to shorten the motor  :)

Test glides in the garden show a very floaty glide.  fingers crossed I can get it to circle in the hall.  I have, however, been encouraged by Richard Crossley's trimming exploits at Bushfields. 

I think the kit scale judges will need extra (or bigger) tables this year!

Mike S


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 06, 2019, 01:36:53 PM
Both Taylorcraft and box looking great Mike.  Hope the hall isn't humid... that could quickly add a few grams!  :o

Good luck and great fun to everyone attending.  Much to my upset I had to cancel my booking this year, but I'll be eagerly awaiting every despatch from the event as it unfolds.  :)

Jon


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 06, 2019, 02:13:54 PM
Looks lovely, Mike. At 199g and 54” span not I’m surprised its glide is very floaty! This and Richard’s will be something to behold! Did Graham build a monster lightweight too?

(My own kit scale entry’s span is less than a quarter of yours and will take up almost no table space. Maybe, to bring it up to parity, my flight scores could be quadrupled?)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DHnut on November 06, 2019, 02:23:52 PM
Is there a reason for why the weight limit was set at 200 gm. I know you are looking at using wing loading as a criteria and that may be a better measure for this sort of model. The ability to turn within the hall may be the limiting factor. Watching with interest.
Ricky


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 06, 2019, 03:58:07 PM
[double-post error - see below]


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 06, 2019, 03:58:18 PM

Maybe, to bring it up to parity, my flight scores could be quadrupled?


Fear not Pete, you won't need the multiplier!  :)

But here's an idea (to really get the STC in a knot):  how about wingspan is set at a 'standard' 19.5" say, so smaller models, e.g. 13" Peanuts, get a proportional 33% bonus, while larger models, e.g. 32.5", have to take a 33% hit on flight scores!?  ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 08, 2019, 06:07:13 PM
Well, after all the waiting it’s finally all kicked off...
A great welcome from our amazing Dutch hosts as always.
We had a highly enjoyable Friday trimming session at the hall this afternoon. Lots of very fine models in action already.
More pics over the next few days, but by way of a taster here’s Mike’s 54” span Taylorcraft taking off on one of its many trimming sorties, and also an action shot of Doug Hunt leaping (yes leaping) to catch it!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DHnut on November 08, 2019, 06:55:53 PM
Pete,
        What a great shot. I look forward to seeing the action tomorrow morning. Given the weather how was the trip over what can be a very turbulent bit of water, I speak from experience.
Ricky


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 09, 2019, 01:54:27 AM
Crossing was fine thanks, Ricky. What nearly did for us though was all the rain and flooding in South Yorkshire which meant Tim had a horrible journey from Derbyshire over to me in Hull and we very nearly missed the boat to Rotterdam!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 09, 2019, 02:40:32 AM
Fab initial 'taster' of a report Pete, and look forward to more.

Assume Mike added a bit more rudder in after putting Doug to that sudden exertion!  :o

Jon

PS How's the Scout?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 09, 2019, 02:48:30 AM
Great shot Pete.. and great catch by Doug.

Looking forward to more too. I hope your trimming was successful


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: OZPAF on November 09, 2019, 03:37:17 AM
What a catch! Good luck to you all in the Comp.

John


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 09, 2019, 04:55:46 AM
Thanks chaps. Into day 1 proper now and all is well so far. Doug’s catch was one of several but Mike got juuuust the right amount of turn in the end. Looks fantastic in flight.
 
PS How's the Scout?
So far so good, thanks for asking; takes off, flies a bit, comes down, doesn’t do anything horrible. Not too much trimming needed to get it to that stage. Just entered my first ever official Peanut score on my sheet! (30s inc. the ROG bonus.)

Here’s a pic of part of the kit scale entry. Notice how just two models are taking up 50% of the table space!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: D/T on November 09, 2019, 06:29:24 AM
Quote
Here’s a pic of part of the kit scale entry

I have been intrigued by the roundels on your Scout. Is there any story, or was it just a case that they had run out of blue? Good luck with it.
Cheers
Don


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 09, 2019, 06:32:20 AM
That's a good looking Kit Scale table, Pete!

Look forward to further reports.  :)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 09, 2019, 07:20:31 AM
Quote
Here’s a pic of part of the kit scale entry

I have been intrigued by the roundels on your Scout. Is there any story, or was it just a case that they had run out of blue? Good luck with it.
Cheers
Don

Early RNAS Scout before markings became more standardised. Also the Union Flag was dropped because of confusion with the German cross.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: D/T on November 09, 2019, 12:11:17 PM
Quote
Early RNAS Scout before markings became more standardised
Thanks. It is easy to forget how new aviation was at that time.
Don


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 09, 2019, 12:59:13 PM
Yes, Scout markings just as Jon says. I rather like the red and white roundels myself.

Getting towards the end of the first day now, and it’s been a ball. Looking forward to the evening banquet shortly. Still all to play for but it’s going to be tight at the top this year I think, with some lovely flights from the usual suspects. Will anyone beat the mighty Martin Huc I wonder? (First pic shows 3 of his models.)
Meanwhile back here in the mortal world, my Consolidated PT-3 hasn’t quite qualified yet, but is behaving itself and has had air beneath its wings, so two more chances tomorrow. Ditto Tim’s DWC, which is showing real promise.

Other pic is of a tiny Waterman Gosling racer built by the guy on the table next to min. He’s called Christophe* and yes, those are hand made spoked wheels (with 50p coin for scale). Flies too!  :o

*I’ll make sure I get the chap’s name right before I post it. He’s French and super talented as you can see.



Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: TheLurker on November 09, 2019, 01:16:20 PM
Quote from: Pete Fardell
Other pic is of a tiny Waterman Gosling racer ...
Good grief! That's astonishing.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 09, 2019, 01:18:24 PM
Great pics Pete, thanks for those. Good to see Martin's Bleriot it seemed to get missed out in all the photos last year . It looks every bit a late model Bleriot.

Good luck to both of you to get some qualifying flights in tomorrow, great to hear its going well

I suspect some camera trickery with the Gosling surely  :-\ ??? ........ where do you get such large 50p pieces

Chris


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on November 09, 2019, 01:43:08 PM
I suspect some camera trickery with the Gosling surely  :-\ ??? ........ where do you get such large 50p pieces
It's one of those giant chocolate Christmas ones


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 09, 2019, 01:45:02 PM
Am I going mad? .... or did the kit scale photo disappear? .... or both?!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 09, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
... Probably both !  ;).   Maybe it has been censored for containing models for kit scale that occupy too much table space ?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Indoorflyer on November 09, 2019, 02:16:31 PM
Just saw another pic of the Waterman on a Facebook group page.  Sitting on the scale @ 1.835 gm!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 09, 2019, 02:37:22 PM
That Waterman is mad!  Pray tell us how Mike's beast is getting on... and the Scout?

Martin Huc?  So I assume the Poles and Czecks are back in their serried ranks to intimidate us mere mortals...!  :o



Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 09, 2019, 06:01:44 PM
Scout’s doing alright- fair to middling flights. Take offs are a bit unconvincing. Mike’s big silver one has flown lovely slow circuits, as has Richard C’s similarly sized red and yellow one. They’re so slow and nicely trimmed, and the hall’s so big, that they’re not even using the whole space or looking too incongruous.
Not sure where the kit scale table photo went either, but here it is again with some other judging table shots too. Also, another pic of the gorgeous Huc Bleriot...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 10, 2019, 05:12:36 PM
This year’s prize winners


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 10, 2019, 05:21:29 PM
Plenty of familiar faces there ... look forward to the full results :)
I hope that you had a good weekend too, Pete?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 10, 2019, 05:43:45 PM
A super weekend, as always with the IIFIs. Huge thanks to our wonderful hosts and roll on next year!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 10, 2019, 06:02:27 PM
Both our American biplanes were still in one piece at the end!
With much sound trimming advice from the in-house experts I got two qualifying flights with the PT-3 today (Yipee!)
And Tim’s DWC flew too- not quite for long enough yet, but going steadily in the right direction. One to watch at the Nats!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 10, 2019, 06:11:27 PM
The Frenchman with the minute Gosling racer shown in a previous post is called Christophe Cramoisan. Here’s his similarly sized Huntington H12. Also with home made spokies!
( :o encore!)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 11, 2019, 12:32:02 AM
Both our American biplanes were still in one piece at the end!
With much sound trimming advice from the in-house experts I got two qualifying flights with the PT-3 today (Yipee!)
And Tim’s DWC flew too- not quite for long enough yet, but going steadily in the right direction. One to watch at the Nats!

Yay!  That's one of the things I love about this pursuit - the generosity of fellow players!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 11, 2019, 12:45:39 AM
Absolutely, Jon. In my case I owe much to Richard C and Lars T in particular on this occasion. I’ll just keep adding photos and info in a rather haphazard way if that’s okay. I’m not sure I can remember all the placings but am sure they’ll be up soon.
Here is George’s stunning DH9. It was flying beautifully and placed 2nd in Electric. (The class was won by our own Derek Knight whose Tiger Moth was also flying superbly. It must have been very close at the top though, with Tonda Alery’s exquisite Spitfire 3rd.)

Other photos here are all, I think, the wonderful work of Vincent Merlijn. I don’t think he flew the seaplanes but the others were a joy to watch in action. The Kawasaki fighter was flying in both F4D and KS. Camo on it is done with torn tissue I believe.  The Fairchild 24 (gotta love ‘em!) is a peanut from the Gene Dubois plan. The HLG rounds (F1N) are very nice to watch for us tensed up Scale bods- they keep our stress levels down! (Vincent, ever versatile, tow launched a scale glider too at one point, and was rather regretting the loss of that short lived class.)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 11, 2019, 02:08:21 AM
Thanks for posting the photos Pete. it looks like a great event with some stunning models. Look forward to more pics  ;)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: rgroener on November 11, 2019, 03:24:00 AM
Thanks for the pics! It looks like you had quite some action over the weekend.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 11, 2019, 09:07:35 AM
Absolutely, Jon. In my case I owe much to Richard C and Lars T in particular on this occasion...

I’ll just keep adding photos and info in a rather haphazard way if that’s okay. I’m not sure I can remember all the placings but am sure they’ll be up soon.

Here is George’s stunning DH9. It was flying beautifully and placed 2nd in Electric. (The class was won by our own Derek Knight whose Tiger Moth was also flying superbly. It must have been very close at the top though, with Tonda Alery’s exquisite Spitfire 3rd.)


It was exactly Lars who I had in mind!

Very eager to eventually see photos, videos and results!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: BernardB on November 11, 2019, 10:40:59 AM
Good to hear everyone had fun and is home safe.

Next year Roel and I will do it all again. So now you can direct all your question to either of us instead of one person. I will open a new thread for the 2020 edition.

Regards,

Bernard


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on November 11, 2019, 11:19:41 AM
Good to hear!

Yes, home and safe as well.

A great event, as usual. As was already pointed out during the award ceremony, and that was my impression too, the overall flying quality was much higher this time, which makes me very interested to see the results in detail.

Many nice models. many even nicer aeromodellers, a great weekend once again.

Only problem? I managed to forget my backpack at a a highway gas station, where we stopped for a pause. It has been found so I have to go get it, a good 2 hours away...

And in the backpack is my camera, with photographs and videos  :-[

First time this happens to me, but there is a first for everything...

Well, even my Avro flew for the first time (sort of...)
And a second place in electric behind Derek Knight is not bad either... As for third. I think it was Martin Huk and not Tonda Alfery as previously mentioned.

Time to think of new projects for next year... Tired of going with the same every time.

George


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 11, 2019, 02:16:00 PM
No one else will ever tire of your models, George! But yes- new ones are always good to see.
Here is Mr Alfery with his incredible flying Pancake. This model flew beautifully. Not just beautifully considering its unorthodoxy, but beautifully by any standard at all. I suspect that for many of us it was the model of the weekend, not withstanding all the other very worthy contenders. It finished 2nd in F4D, only beaten by the mind blowing Huk Bleriot. Lars Tolkstam’s sublime Rumpler was 3rd and got the highest (very high indeed) flight score of all.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on November 11, 2019, 02:25:32 PM
Mike Stuart is already uploading videos.

Here is the above pictured pancake in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmW4rxIuugM&feature=em-uploademail

A rare sight indeed. Considering the configuration, there are not many words to describe the result. The video says it all...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 11, 2019, 03:05:37 PM
And very enjoyable it is too watching them.

I won't link to them all but good to see Pete's PT3 in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80kLF2ubB9g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80kLF2ubB9g)




Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DavidJP on November 11, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
Thank you all for the photos and video -  clearly one of the best events if not the best and one to attend.  Well done all.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 11, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
Just click here https://www.youtube.com/user/ffscale/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/ffscale/videos) to see everything Mike has uploaded... so far!

PS Who won KS and with what?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffscale on November 11, 2019, 04:36:35 PM
That was a great weekend, wasn't it?  The standard of the models seems to get better each year.  Great to spend time so many modellers from around Europe, not to mention Enrique Malz from Israel.  Thanks to the organisers and their families for the organisation and lovely food.

As you have noticed I've started putting up videos on Youtube.  The Vought V-173 Pancake was my favourite model of the event I think - how do you even start trimming something like that!  Also, I thought Jiri Dolozel's pistachio Sopwith Rainbow was fantastic.  

KS was won by Richard Crossley's giant Aeronca Chief.  Both Rich and I had a lot of fun flying our monster models indoors, and there was no difficulty flying in the hall once you had trimmed for a suitable circuit.  If anybody got a video of my Taylorcraft in action, I'd love to see it.

Mike S


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on November 12, 2019, 04:21:19 AM
Another one uploading videos is Vladimir Alfery, the son of Antonin.

He probably caught almost all the flights.

Here is his playlist, to be updated when Youtube limits allow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH1rBPCsKuI&list=PLN29opIuaZIWkw31Jl2xNcad8mZsvMFeQ

And a corresponding spreadsheet with information, still needs filling up:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1chxJMzFO81klu97f0vYW_RQxrmFLBWRuzZMQG8b5BD0/edit?fbclid=IwAR2mQI0_xAJ0fwFu6EHivKlEIobZ9HtTrCs7tdF4jiPqpXqs9zk2gi3HWVA#gid=0



Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 12, 2019, 07:58:30 AM
Some more pics...
Three fine pistachios by Messrs Huk, Horne and Crossley respectively.
My peanut Scout nuzzling up to Mike Stuart’s Blackburn Baffin (asking it for flying tips!)
Two shots of John Bowerman’s* beautifully done Fairchild 22 (open rubber). He got this flying really well by the Sunday.


*John also placed 3rd in Kit Scale with his very fine flying DHC Beaver. Richard C’s huge Aeronca won KS and perhaps someone can remind me who was second as my memory has failed? I do know it wasn’t me.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 12, 2019, 08:15:24 AM
Hugely - vicariously - enjoying watching the videos!  :) :) :)

My favourite so far is the little German WW1 pusher seaplane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPl6tW3VRFw&list=PLN29opIuaZIWkw31Jl2xNcad8mZsvMFeQ&index=84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPl6tW3VRFw&list=PLN29opIuaZIWkw31Jl2xNcad8mZsvMFeQ&index=84)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 12, 2019, 10:11:22 AM
Thats a great little flyer  :)

I love the HB W.20 too .... another one that I have mostly drawn up at peanut scale. I've even cut out parts to run the prop by belt drive using an arrangement I christened the 'tumble dryer'.
I did the printed tissue for Pete Iliffe's larger one and printed it at peanut scale while I was at it. I thought it was a bit ambitious for now so opted for the Westland (amongst others!)
As usual, l mess about that much that someone gets the job done properly in the meantime!
I did post the engine cylinders and scale prop I made a year or so ago  ::)  
It's why I post my builds in advance now .... my 'secret' builds turn into those "yeah, yeah, yeah ... we believe" you moments!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 12, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
And some more...

Tim Horne's DWC ready for action
Mike Stuart about to release The Beast again (for a small fee he was giving rides to small children all day)
Kit scale table-hogs with John Bowerman's third placed DHC Beaver hiding underneath them
Another shot of the judging tables. Pete Smart's new electric Fokker airliner (foreground) went very well.
Sopwith Rainbows: pistachio and peanut, both by Jiri Dolozel. Just gorgeous!



Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffscale on November 14, 2019, 04:41:11 AM
Thanks so much to Vladimir Alfery for uploading over 200 videos from Nijmegen.  I was delighted to find the round 4 flight of my big taylorcraft on there – probably its best flight.  The model had 400 turns on.


https://youtu.be/QPdf10zkowk (https://youtu.be/QPdf10zkowk)

Some stats if anybody is interested:

All-up weight 199 grams.  The weight of motor was decided by the difference between the empty model weight and the 200 gram maximum weight limit, hence it was only 17 grams and just a couple of inches longer than the peg to hook distance.  I used 5 loops of 1/8” and the prop is an Easybuilt plastic 12 incher.  The rear peg is just behind the wing trailing edge, otherwise there were very few deviations from the Comet plan.  I did use an upper wing spar though and balsa for the upper cowling panels, instead of paper.

The model was only using less than half the hall, as you can see.  A drooped left aileron was used to hold up the wing up in the turn. The model was so docile that trimming for indoor flight was much easier than I’d expected.  Richard Crossley found the same with his class-winning Aeronca.

I’m looking forwards to trying it outdoors sometime with a longer motor, so I can really wind it up.  Think it would have to be a calm day though!

Mike S


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: billdennis747 on November 14, 2019, 04:56:02 AM
Astonishing Mike. I watched the video before reading your comments and thought 'it's trimmed for Walsall, not Nijmegen'! Interesting that you were limited on rubber. I always remember J O'D's view that rubber scale models are often over-powered and under-wound. I found that with my Jungmann where I reduced from 30g to 23g, increased turns closer to max and doubled duration
If you fly it outside you will need a contact number and a tracker!
Was the original one-piece and is this one?
Bill


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: kkphantom on November 14, 2019, 04:58:47 AM

I’m looking forwards to trying it outdoors sometime with a longer motor, so I can really wind it up.  Think it would have to be a calm day though!

Mike

...and thermal free!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffscale on November 14, 2019, 06:49:39 AM
The original is one-piece.  The wings come off on mine - wire hooks and rubber bands at the wing roots and where the struts meet the fuselage.

I tried it with the same motor rearranged into four loops and wound to 700 turns, but it wouldn’t quite take off.  I think if I used a motor half way between the two that would be ideal (4 loops 1/8” plus a loop of1/16”).

Mike S


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: vintagemike on November 14, 2019, 07:21:01 AM
Mike your motor would translate to 6 strands of 3/16", might be easier to make up.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffscale on November 14, 2019, 08:33:37 AM
Much easier - thanks, I hadn’t noticed that!

Mike S


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: kittyfritters on November 14, 2019, 11:50:29 AM
Not knowing how large Mike is I couldn't really get the scale of the Taylorcraft but, in the table shot I know exactly how large the Beaver is so I really get the size of the "beast".  It takes nerve to fly a free flight model that large indoors.  Well done!

Howard Littman
(KF)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Indoorflyer on November 14, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
Yeah, it's a biggie!  54" span


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 14, 2019, 04:35:49 PM
Few more pics...

This little Waco by Enrique Malz is, like all his models, almost unbelievably well made. It has a fully furbished cabin, complete with a Crossley-esque miniature model plane sitting on the back seat! Unfortuntely my phone camera failed to peer inside properly, but perhaps someone else got a good pic.
Electric Blackburn Mono (by Vlastík Šimek?) which flew really nicely.
Nicely mellowed Renard peanut by Bryan Stichbury.
Fine flying, and very interesting, Potez 29 by Jacques Cartigny.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 15, 2019, 03:43:22 AM
Has anyone posted this link before? ...it even features some of Enrique's models at the end! A talented cellist and aeromodeller!

  https://youtu.be/qwrs08v36X4  (https://youtu.be/qwrs08v36X4)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 15, 2019, 11:14:08 AM
This nice little video of the event has just appeared on YouTube, made by Christophe Cramoisan (he of miniature Gosling racer fame)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrqAxzelMcc

Highly entertaining and gives a good flavour of the weekend!*


*Just a couple of little caption errors to watch for: Lars Tolkstam's superb Rumpler flight is labeled 'Nederlands', but Lars is of course Swedish. Also, it's Tim Horne's pistachio Waco on the table, and not Peter Boys'.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on November 15, 2019, 11:32:07 AM
Thanks Peter, indeed fun to watch.

For me the "biggest" caption error is another, namely "Czechoslovakia"  ;D.

I am not sure how Tonda and the rest of the gang would feel about it, despite the velvet divorce...

George


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 15, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Really enjoyed that video  :) ... thanks for posting the link, Pete.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Squirrelnet on November 15, 2019, 02:30:27 PM
Great pictures and videos from this event, thanks to all - it makes for great armchair flying


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 16, 2019, 06:57:33 AM
Another one uploading videos is Vladimir Alfery, the son of Antonin.
He probably caught almost all the flights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH1rBPCsKuI&list=PLN29opIuaZIWkw31Jl2xNcad8mZsvMFeQ


And a corresponding spreadsheet with information, still needs filling up:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1chxJMzFO81klu97f0vYW_RQxrmFLBWRuzZMQG8b5BD0/edit?fbclid=IwAR2mQI0_xAJ0fwFu6EHivKlEIobZ9HtTrCs7tdF4jiPqpXqs9zk2gi3HWVA#gid=0

George, did you fill in the spreadsheet yourself? If so, then thank you! Must have been quite a task!! :o


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 16, 2019, 07:28:39 AM
Incidentally, a couple of the last remaining model blanks in F4D are (I think) Graham Banham's Focke Wulf Ta 152, and Pete Smart's Aeronca Chief.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: g_kandylakis on November 16, 2019, 11:09:05 AM
Hi Peter,
Yes I did, it  was not that bad. I did see all the videos after all, so I had the spreadsheet open in another window.

My biggest problem was not having all the schedule sheets and I was not completely sure of some models...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 16, 2019, 12:34:29 PM
Well it's much appreciated!
Can you, or anyone, remind me of the top 3 placings in a  few of the classes that I can't quite remember. The official results will no doubt be up fairly soon, but I'm trying to write up my report for Aeromodeller and it would help me to know.
The ones I'm unsure of are Peanut, Pistachio and CO2.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Merlinboy on November 16, 2019, 04:08:28 PM
PM sent re your missing results Pete  :)

Regards,

Paul


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 16, 2019, 05:04:30 PM
Thanks Paul! Sorted.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Merlinboy on November 16, 2019, 07:28:16 PM
No probs Pete

Happy to help!  :)

Regards,

Paul


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Prosper on November 17, 2019, 02:26:29 AM
This is such a lush thread! I've gawped at a few of the pics,  and over coming days will be luxuriating over all the pics and videos. There's an extraordinary amount of  high skill and talent gathered here. Thanks to everyone involved.

Stephen.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DavidJP on November 17, 2019, 06:43:35 AM
Beautifully put Stephan.  Yes full of admiration for the skill shown - both in flying and the detailed building.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 17, 2019, 09:15:09 AM
Yes ... I cast a list of 209 videos to my TV last night and sat and watched. I think I got to 121 before it was declared 'strictly come dancing time'. Inspirational  :)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 17, 2019, 09:33:22 AM
I don’t understand, Russ. Why would anyone in your house rather watch Strictly Come Dancing? If someone’s into beautifully choreographed displays of grace and elegance being judged and scored by a panel of experts, then surely they’d prefer to just keep watching the Nijmegen videos? (Is it maybe because we IIFI contestants didn’t wear enough sequins?)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 17, 2019, 10:26:37 AM
 ;D


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 17, 2019, 10:37:32 AM
Lol .... my wife would tell you that she has to have some compensation for the 36 years she has put up with me!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: DavidJP on November 18, 2019, 12:57:14 PM
Come to think of it I am not sure I could watch two hundred odd videos of models performing even to the standard on here at one sitting.  I would fidget and wander off.  I like the dancing in strictly too but we record it so we can avoid the mainly silly audience and the “luvvy” behaviour.  On balance though good videos of toy aeroplanes performing well probably scores most points.  Pete, the prospect of you in sequins is something I simply cannot imagine!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 20, 2019, 07:44:09 AM
PM sent re your missing results Pete  :)

Regards,

Paul
Thanks again, Paul. There’s still just one result I can’t remember though, which is 2nd place in Kit Scale. I know Richard’s huge Aeronca won it and John Bowerman’s DHC Beaver was third. But who was 2nd?
Anyone?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 20, 2019, 09:45:09 AM
I'll have a complete guess! ... Mike Stuart?


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 20, 2019, 10:38:48 AM
Nope, despite the Taylorcraft’s amazing performance it wasn’t Mike. Must have been someone in this shot of the prize winners...


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Indoorflyer on November 20, 2019, 11:10:33 AM
Didn't the event organizers publish the results??


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Antonin Alfery on November 20, 2019, 11:25:08 AM
If I remember well - Vlastimil Šimek with his Aerosport. But, please, ask Roel or Bernard to be sure.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 20, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
If I remember well - Vlastimil Šimek with his Aerosport. But, please, ask Roel or Bernard to be sure.
Thanks, Tonda; now you’ve said it I’m sure that’s right. (I won’t bother Bernard and Roel as I don’t want to rush them. I know they’ll publish the full results once they’re checked and ready.)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: john bowerman on November 20, 2019, 01:07:58 PM
Pete

Yes you are definitely correct is was Vlastimil Simek with the Aerosport.
We had a drink with Bernard at the hotel on Sunday night and saw the results.
Regards
John


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Merlinboy on November 20, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Hi Pete,

Antonin, John and yourself are all absolutely 100% correct; Vlastimil Simek was 2nd in kit-scale with the Aerosport.

Best wishes,

Paul.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 06:00:06 AM
Thanks again,all. One more fact check for Aeromodeller...
Birgit Tornkvist’s Wittman racer won the profile scale contest. Am I right In thinking Johan Wallin proxy-flew this for her (as well as Georg Tornkvist’s Ganagobie)? I gather Birgit and Georg are well into their nineties.


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Merlinboy on November 24, 2019, 08:20:25 AM
Hi Pete,

 That is my understanding also; I remember reference being made to the fact at the prize giving ceremony on Sunday afternoon.

I did consume a vast amount of Trappist beer during my stay though so perhaps someone else will also kindly confirm we are both correct!

Best wishes,

Paul


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 24, 2019, 03:05:32 PM
Just had a look through the results just posted on Facebook .... very high standards!  :)
The Rumpler (Lars?) was my favourite flyer, so glad to see it up there!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: BernardB on November 24, 2019, 03:25:47 PM
Thanks again,all. One more fact check for Aeromodeller...
Birgit Tornkvist’s Wittman racer won the profile scale contest. Am I right In thinking Johan Wallin proxy-flew this for her (as well as Georg Tornkvist’s Ganagobie)? I gather Birgit and Georg are well into their nineties.

Georg is 97 and Birgit is only 95. and yes Johan did all their proxy flying


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 04:00:28 PM
Thanks Bernard, and Paul, for confirming. Hope someone proxy flies for me when I’m 97!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: BernardB on November 24, 2019, 04:12:21 PM
The results are on Facebook and emailed to all the competitors.

I'm busy to put all the static scores into a online sheet for anyone to see. So you can see where people score better then others.

Regards,

Bernard


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 04:19:27 PM
Thanks for all your work, Bernard. It was a massive undertaking for you, but I know I won't be the only one poring over the results this evening. Much appreciated!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 05:45:43 PM
Some more pics...
These are all Tim Horne's but I asked him to send me some of them for Aeromodeller, and he let me put them on here too...

Tiny helicopter- Christophe Cramaison
Zlin peanut- Dave Prior
Waco SRE- Peter Boys (Kit Scale)
PZL 24 peanut- Mike Stuart
Comet 54" Taylorcraft- Mike Stuart
Spitfire peanut- Pete Smart


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 05:50:26 PM
More of Tim's pics...
Taylor monoplane- not sure whose
Richard Crossley's KS winning 54" Aeronca
Two of Doug Hunt's models
Men at work: John Bowerman (on his way to 3rd palce in KS with his DH Beaver) and Wout Moerman
Enrique Maltz's peanut Waco. Pilot and model aicraft on back seat!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 05:58:05 PM
And some more...
George Kandylakis's models (he's not afraid to make a spoked wheel or two... or eight)
Tonda Alfrey's Spitfire (electric) and Vought Pancake: 4th and 2nd in Elec and Rubber
Pistachio table
Albatros D.II- also Antonin Alfery's (Pistachio winner)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 06:13:18 PM
Yet more of Tim's...

Redwing, Vega and Morane L of Mssrs Stuart, Crossley and Huk
Some of the Peanut entry on their judging table
Nakajima Kate (Pistachio)- Jacques Cartigny
Sopwith Rainbow racers (Pistachio and Peanut)- Jiri Dolozel (came 2nd and 3rd respectively)
Peanut Sommer Monoplane- Andrea Hartstein


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 06:31:04 PM
And more...
Peter Boys' Waco SRE peanut
Peter Smart's models including his Fokker F.23 airliner which flew well. Also the Alfery Rumpler IV which came 3rd in CO2
John Bowerman's fine Fairchild 22 (rubber)
Jiri Dolozel's Hansa-Brandenburg W.20 (electric). Flew as beautifully as it looked
George Kandylakis's truly outstanding DH.9 (2nd in Electric this time)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 06:44:18 PM
Last lot of Tim's photos...

Wout Moerman's Fokker F.II (Peanut)
Vincent Merlijn's fine flying Kawasaki Hein (from the GAR kit)
And some more of Vincent's models
Gert Brendela and Larissa Bruins busy judging the Kit Scale models
Finally, my PT3 and Tim's DWC (both for open rubber)





Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 24, 2019, 08:34:36 PM
And one more of my own pics of the World Cruiser (which incidentally got the 4th highest static score in F4D and by Sunday wasn’t very far off being trimmed for a qualifying flight. One to watch at Walsall?)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Jack Plane on November 25, 2019, 04:19:22 AM
Thank you Pete - and Tim - for these great photos!


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Pete Fardell on November 25, 2019, 04:58:52 AM
Couple of late night name typos to correct this morning : Tiny helicopter is Christopher Cramoisan's. Judging is of couse Gert Brendel. (Apologies to both gents)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Russ Lister on November 25, 2019, 05:29:35 AM
Thanks for the photos both .... the World Cruiser is definitely one to be watched  :)

Nijmegen joins the list of events like Geneseo, that I would love to attend but know I probably never will  :)


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: OZPAF on November 25, 2019, 10:19:31 PM
Thank you Pete and Tim and all those who provided pics and videos.

John


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: RolandD6 on November 26, 2019, 05:41:00 PM
Once again I am late to the party. A bit thankyou to everyone who took photos and posted them for us all to enjoy.

A great bunch of models. Something to aspire to.

Paul


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: Antonin Alfery on December 25, 2019, 10:54:59 AM
Mike's Stuart report:

http://www.ffscale.co.uk/page3aq.htm


Title: Re: Nijmegen 2019
Post by: ffadict on December 26, 2019, 09:38:36 PM
Beautiful workmanship there. I can only aspire to get a flying model  ;D

Paul