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« on: December 22, 2012, 06:54:23 PM »

Well, I have a new Fox 35 Black Head and was wondering what plane the members of HPA would suggest for the "C" nostalgia class. Comments please!

Thks, Scott
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 09:17:50 PM »

Ramrod 750 would be my choice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 09:50:06 PM »

Yep, Gene Smith has flown one with a Fox Blackhead .35 for years an it's tough to beat.  I also have a Klarich kit and a Mattes Blackhead waiting for it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 10:57:23 PM »

You really must have been having a bad day to be saddled with such a boatanchor engine! Roll Eyes

Don't believe those imposters!  I will take it off your hands for $25.00 cash.  Just don't look on the front of my T-Bird 650 at Muncie next summer. Cheesy Grin
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 05:48:31 PM »

Have you asked Lee Campbell yet ? He probably has a great kit that would be a perfect match. Campbell's Custom Kits has a catalog on google.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 05:57:27 PM »

Thanks, for the responses. The 750 R'rod was at the top of my list also! Just was wondering what everyone else thought. Next winters activity. I do like R'rods. attached are pics. of my 250 and 600.

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 06:07:45 PM »

You are a cagey one, aren't you, Scott!  Just looking for someone to back your play, so to speak?
In any case, the 250 & 600 are very nice.
Just wondering: did you use the plan I published in NFFS Digest some years back?
It is an authentic copy of the first Ramrod dwg Ron St Jean ever made.
You can look it up!  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 06:21:52 PM »

FYI - Eric Rule has been laser cutting RR 750 ribs for the local SoCals. I do believe his has the spar going to the bottom of the rib. Contact Eric through RSM http://www.rsmdistribution.com/index-2.htm

Merry Christmas, you guys!

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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 06:37:36 PM »

Fine suggestion, Norm.  As I recall, when spar slots were cut into bottom of ribs, it was difficult to maintain
straight lower surface. 
I wonder if this does not sound like a natural for carbon capping the ribs?
At least the bottom, & why not the top?
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 07:08:42 PM »

My Ramrod 432 has the upswept stab that I know Lee believes is valuable.  It may well be but on my next one I'm going to make the middle part that sits on the stab platform flatbottomed so as to make the rotation under D/T more managable.  Also the stab key is in that area and the flat bottom would be a lot easier to live with.
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2012, 08:55:21 PM »

Fine suggestion, Norm.  As I recall, when spar slots were cut into bottom of ribs, it was difficult to maintain
straight lower surface. 
I wonder if this does not sound like a natural for carbon capping the ribs?
At least the bottom, & why not the top?

Seeing how it's laser cut, he could have easily put the spar slot in the middle of the rib, but this is the way the guys that placed the order wanted it. I would have preferred through the middle of the rib, just for nostalgia sake. I hated cutting those spar holes! The Goldberg Sailplane was the worst!

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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2012, 09:47:53 PM »

I looked at the R'rod dwg and my build notes from 1955 to see that it seems I even cut the bottom of the ribs,
then put filler pieces at the bottom of the slots after spars installed. 
Of course, the 250 wing was not built with ribs per se. Instead capstrips were laid first, then spars, then top sliced ribs.
It was an easy build, since you just put LE and TE at the chordal dimension, caps, spars, sliced ribs, dihedral & cover it.
At least that is how I recall it...almost 58 years later!  Shocked Grin
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« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2012, 07:16:26 PM »

Lee, all the R'rod's I've built have been with the up-swept stab. The 600 is with the stringers through the middle of the rib. I was thinking of getting a short kit for Klerich kits. Anyone have any experience with them?

Scott
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« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 08:02:41 PM »

I have built several Klarich short kits including the Ramrod 750 which has a Fox Black Head Combat special on it.  I have also built the his Lucky Lindy 500 and the 1/2A Zero.  I like being able to pick my own spars, LE, TE, etc.  Good stuff.

Gene
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