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« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2013, 01:10:23 PM »

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I have a club, now with six 12-14 year olds in regular attendance

Let me get this right ... you are operating a club outside of the BMFA at the moment?
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« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2013, 03:01:51 PM »

Yes. It is not a public club though. I work at a school and we will fly in the school hall. I suspect you are going to shout insurance at me but it is covered by the school. Plus they are still building not flying! Early days. However, as the interest is making the club viable as an ongoing concern I will soon be approaching the BMFA with a view to getting things in place for involving the kids in events. Partly my motivation to get to the Indoor Nationals, to experience the way of things and check out the suitability.
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« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2013, 04:11:19 PM »

Sounds good  Smiley .... would be better within the BMFA though. Can't remember the junior rate but I hope that it is not prohibitive.
I don't shout at anyone ... it makes me 'ead hurt  Smiley
I should just add that, yes, I would have been more concerned if it was a 'full blown outdoor club'
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« Reply #78 on: February 06, 2013, 07:35:43 AM »

Spoke with South Midlands delegate last night. It would seem that complaints about the website are common, well he rolled his eyes and smiled!!

The [email protected] email address is broadcast to all those in the BMFA corridors of power, he suggested to use that one to raise issues or offer help.
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« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2013, 01:31:59 AM »

In answer to your original question Fat Dragon, Kit Scale not being on the BMFA or Scale BMFA was due to my omission.....apologies. Both the Scale Indoor Nats on 21st April (which includes the annual Kit Scale comp) and an event  I'm organising in Birmingham two weeks before on 7th April (Indoor scale RC and pre-nats trimming/possible competition for scale free flight models) should now be on both sites.

If you need any more info, l please PM me.

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« Reply #80 on: February 09, 2013, 06:49:43 AM »

Cheers for the info Andy.

I didn't mean to stir up trouble, but felt opinions needed an airing! The discussion was quite lively for a short time, so I guess they did.

Rich

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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2013, 02:25:56 AM »

No probs at all, Rich. In fact your post reminded me via a third party that I'd not put the events on the BMFA Site, so thanks are due from me for the reminder!

Andy
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« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2013, 04:53:29 AM »

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« Reply #83 on: August 02, 2013, 05:40:55 AM »

I emailed the BMFA office to point out an error in the obituary for Jack Allen 1992-2013.  I think it should be 1929?  I sent my email on 29th July and it is now 5 days later.  I haven't had an acknowledgement and the website has not been altered.  Says it all really.
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« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2013, 03:21:11 PM »

I have just looked at the BMFA website and it looks to be different from my last visit.  So, is this the new website?

Because it carries a lot of different information I could not immediately go to (for instance) Kit Scale Rules although I eventually found it.

What do you think?
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« Reply #85 on: September 30, 2013, 03:55:18 PM »

Just had a look. Much, much better. Visually and functionally. Hooray!
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« Reply #86 on: September 30, 2013, 04:01:14 PM »

Looks better ... went straight to the gallery and found a great video of the FF Nats .... including a clip of Jon yak52!  Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: September 30, 2013, 04:07:25 PM »

Perfect up nostril shot Undecided

The site looks good.
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« Reply #88 on: September 30, 2013, 05:04:41 PM »

It looks the same to me - is the address different?
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« Reply #89 on: September 30, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »

Have you tried refreshing the browser Bill? ...it's still bmfa.org but the pages have changed.
pressing ctrl  and F5 together might help?
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« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2013, 06:13:47 PM »

I think I'm missing something here - looks unchanged to me too - and I reloaded the page lots of times..
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« Reply #91 on: September 30, 2013, 06:52:00 PM »

It's definitely different. Did you go here?: http://www.bmfa.org/

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"The new BMFA website is now live at www.bmfa.org
Some of you will be able to see it now, some will still show the old site until the domain name re-direction propogates through the internet. Feedback and constuctive criticism welcome to [email protected]"
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« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2013, 01:56:55 AM »

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I'll have to be patient because mine is just the same; advertising the August Nats.
Bill
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« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2013, 02:00:16 AM »

FF modeller - just seen your ctrl F5 trick and it worked. Thanks
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« Reply #94 on: December 16, 2013, 05:34:44 AM »

Have just found this - a very nice well conducted mature discussion. Which of course is what one would expect. I am not being patronising but I have found on so many forums, probably because of the anonymity of the internet,  people can be very venomous!

I was involved at Council level many years ago - probably some 40 years or more, and nothing much seems to have changed. I saw the emergence of what may be called the dumbing down of aeromodelling because of this strange fascination to get "bums on seats" - or more people flying model aeroplanes.  I felt then and do now that this was detrimental and never saw the reason for it.  I enjoyed being (as it was claimed) elitist as a member of the Society of Model Areonautical Engineers.

Some 60 or so years ago as a callow lad I heard senior people in the Club bemoaning that "if we don't encourage more youngsters the hobby will die". Aeromodeling is still alive and well.  I am surprised to hear recently from the local model shop (well about 14 miles away) that the "have to be built" kits are selling well and having made a return about two years ago after 40 years off I am pleasantly surprised at the attendance at FF meets of all disciplines.

Do remember that many folk who serve us are volunteers and some may well admit they are not best qualified for the job - but like in so many things well qualified suitable volunteers are far too busy already.  But they willingly give their time and suspecting that not much has changed there either you can bet your flying boots that BMFA time probably dominates.  I don't know how much of our "subs" goes in insurance and certainly some while ago I was satisfied that  personal insurance I had was adequate on it's own,  But the BMFA insurance is recognised.  I strongly suspect that quite a bit of our subs goes into the reserve fund or whatever it may be called for the defence of flying sites against the quite often outrageous and prejudiced opposition to people enjoying themselves by members of the public.  If people moving to a rural area can seek to ban a cockerel from crowing or farmers spreading muck then model flying must be fair game?  And then we have of course the events, although I accept that these are due to the commitment of the various technical committees.

So OK I don't like the title BMFA - I don't go to the August Nationals (too much like a boot sale and for the hoi polloi and yes I am a frightful snob) but of course the August Nationals does bring in some loot!

The web site (now and before) is good enough as far as I am concerned - and I wonder if it were better then would it be just another opportunity for me to spend even more time on my Mac. So Hip Pocket does me just fine thanks, as do the couple of other "specialised" sites I visit. 

I do admit  that I find the "News" a bit tedious but until Aeromodeller appeared again I cannot recall ,even during my most active years, buying a copy of any of the then Magazines available.  An occasional quick glance whilst waiting for my train at Charing Cross was about all that was required.

On the occasions I have rung the "office" I have always had a courteous and helpful dialogue although once or twice when one gets referred "upwards" I find my tolerance can be tested!

So not a waste of space by any means I say and hardly expensive either for what we get?  Maybe just a little more independence for the tech Committees I wonder but that is very much an opinion and I cannot claim to really have examined the issue.

Oh and Monique I did look at your website a while ago - Royal Academy stuff to say the least - perhaps a little too professional for the likes of BMFA maybe. 
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« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2013, 07:52:16 AM »

Have just found this - a very nice well conducted mature discussion. Which of course is what one would expect. I am not being patronising but I have found on so many forums, probably because of the anonymity of the internet,  people can be very venomous!

Just to put you right on that, nearly all of the people that had the discussion (mature or not), know and or have met each other, and most likely than not will have met/meet each other at various events.  So the point of anonymity is somewhat moot......

The Website has improved considerably, they came good on their promises to do that and I e-mailed the BMFA to say so. I do believe in criticism and praise in equal measure  Grin

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« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2013, 08:37:05 AM »



 I don't go to the August Nationals (too much like a boot sale and for the hoi polloi and yes I am a frightful snob) but of course the August Nationals does bring in some loot!



Well, I've been going to the August Nats ever since they were in May so I guess I must be one of (the) hoi polloi!
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« Reply #97 on: December 16, 2013, 10:55:09 AM »

A thoughtful and sound posting DavidJP

>I was involved at Council level many years ago - probably some 40 years or more, and nothing much seems to have changed. I saw the emergence of what may be called the dumbing down of aeromodelling because of this strange fascination to get "bums on seats" - or more people flying model aeroplanes.  I felt then and do now that this was detrimental and never saw the reason for it.  I enjoyed being (as it was claimed) elitist as a member of the Society of Model Areonautical Engineers.

In this I totally agree, having being heavily involved on Northern Area affairs in various positions inclusive of Chairman.   I still think of the organisation as the SMAE - which, legally, it still is - and regret the general change of name  .    Our NA Rep gained Council disfavour when he referred to it as the 'Bought Model Flying Association' but that has,sadly,  come closer to truth as the years have passed.

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« Reply #98 on: December 17, 2013, 07:41:23 AM »



Just to put you right on that, nearly all of the people that had the discussion (mature or not), know and or have met each other, and most likely than not will have met/meet each other at various events.  So the point of anonymity is somewhat moot......

The Website has improved considerably, they came good on their promises to do that and I e-mailed the BMFA to say so. I do believe in criticism and praise in equal measure  Grin

Andrew

Sorry that I was not clear- my very point was that this site was unique among some in that the discussion was mature etc. But yes I suppose folk on here do meet up occasionally - and of course unlike a number of other forums there is not the passion for nom de plumes! I also agree Andrew it is good to give praise as well - otherwise how are they to know that they are on the right track?  I too passed similar comment a short while ago when speaking.

Thank you Applehoney - and very amused by the "Bought Model Flying Association - not heard that one. But this is of course typical of the modern culture - "I want it now" - instant entertainment and all that.
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