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« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2014, 09:25:19 AM »

Thanks Bill. I will try it, but this time I may just make little balsa louvres and colour the 'open' side black. I remember my dad doing this years ago on a big RC Spad XIII and it was surprisingly effective. The reason I remember it though is that he made them all facing the wrong way and had to do them all again!

I agree that it's a shame about the dihedral (lack of) on so many tempting subjects but it I've trained my brain not to worry much about adding it these days (although I'd still draw the line at putting it on a DrI). The Albatros plan, incidentally, shows no top wing dihedral on the drawing but does suggest adding it if the model's being built to fly. Perhaps I'd better just highlight that bit before handing it over to those stern kit scale judges!
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« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2014, 09:51:12 AM »

Hi Pete

As to dihedral in the D-III: I have about 1/8 per upper wing tip and maybe
1/4 at most in the bottom panels. Wing tips are also "up swept".
Model is quite stable as an outdoor rubber performer. It seems to prefer
flying in a wide RH pattern. A straight ahead aggressive climb that settling into a RH pattern.
Some down thrust is built into the nose with a little R thrust.
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« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2014, 11:00:52 AM »

Hi Mike and thank you. I tried to add dihedral as you describe above (and on the plan) although I may have been a little over generous on the top wing. Sometimes it settles down a bit though doesn't it? It's not as excessive as it looks on my last pic though. I shall be flying mine indoors mostly and intend to fly it left as that is the only successful pattern for me so far. Three or four circuits  are all that I require. To that end I have tweaked the aileron edge pieces a bit as I stuck them on, giving me a chance of keeping the left wing up, and the right wing down in the turn without needing trim tabs. I tried to add the  down and right thrust as suggested too, although I do find that however carefully I do this it ends up as a bit of a lottery once the motor tension kicks in.
I'm thoroughly enjoying this model. It's slightly bigger and sturdier than I imagined (probably because it is more of an outdoor design really) but these are both characteristics I really like.
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« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2014, 06:56:29 PM »

Thanks Pete.
Yea I like designing the old WW1 crates and using some of the
construction/covering techniques incorporated resulting from flying in many FAC scale
contests since mid 70s. My all time mentor was Walt Mooney and I allow
his influence free reign with the stuff I do.
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« Reply #229 on: March 28, 2014, 06:04:14 AM »

How are the other kit scale entries coming along I wonder?

Sad news from me: I'm afraid I have to scratch.  :'(
I was only ever going to be there for some of the Sunday so cancelling the Saturday has made it a no go. Model nearly finished too  Sad Sad
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« Reply #230 on: March 28, 2014, 11:04:24 AM »

Bum, that's a shame Jon  Undecided . I am the opposite, now it has moved to the Sunday only I will be entering......
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« Reply #231 on: March 28, 2014, 12:05:53 PM »

That is a real shame, Jon. I was really looking forward to seeing it in action.
(and my Spandaus were warming up nicely)

Andrew, glad you're coming after all. Are you up for the pylon race again? It would be a shame not to continue our destructively consistent record. Unless you've got a suitable lamb to slaughter I'd quite like to bring Betty-Jo again; she's now getting so tatty that I really won't mind what happens!
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« Reply #232 on: March 28, 2014, 02:02:24 PM »

Haha, well mine has been stripped of all armament by Airdisco  Shocked

I'm still planning to pop along and watch though.
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« Reply #233 on: March 28, 2014, 04:52:42 PM »

Hi Pete,

I would be honoured to co pilot Betty Jo....

Andrew
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« Reply #234 on: March 28, 2014, 05:49:40 PM »

Excellent- I'll get her back in training then!
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« Reply #235 on: March 31, 2014, 10:27:45 AM »

Entry form and cheque in post. No going back now!

Here are the engine, exhaust, radiator (top and bottom) ready for painting, and guns.
The pink 'water pipes' were made from some handy kids' craft material I pinched from my son. Can't remember the name of it but t's bendy sticky strings, which could be very handy for this sort of thing. The stickiness can be sanded off.
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« Reply #236 on: March 31, 2014, 11:59:14 AM »

Glad to hear it Pete  Smiley .... I'm not really ready .... and I went backwards with the Triplane yesterday (motor trouble), but I still put an entry in with Andy at the meeting yesterday.


If I don't get finished or ready, I don't mind being last on the results list ... the event needs consistent support, so I will be doing this every year from now on.
The way I look at it is that you will have to pay as a spectator anyway (and I always go, one way or other) so all is not lost financially if you do not finish in time.
Get those entries in everyone .... end of party political broadcast!  Roll Eyes


The detailing is looking great Pete  Smiley
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« Reply #237 on: March 31, 2014, 02:11:24 PM »

My cheque to Andy has gone today, I was due to give him yesterday but I was struck down by a child passed on disease of some sort, having been off work on Thursday to look after my son.....

So it looks like trimming will be on the Saturday night (no change there then!)

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« Reply #238 on: March 31, 2014, 02:34:06 PM »

I think a few will still be trimming come that Saturday night .... apart from Graham .... he seemed to have brought his invisible rails along with him yesterday Roll Eyes
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« Reply #239 on: March 31, 2014, 02:45:47 PM »

I'll be posting my entry tomorrow. Trimming on Saturday night? Of course! I'll still be building Friday night!
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« Reply #240 on: March 31, 2014, 07:34:46 PM »

Well, don't know if it will be trimmed or not, but the engine is now in...
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« Reply #241 on: April 01, 2014, 05:13:58 AM »

Looking good Pete  Smiley
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« Reply #242 on: April 02, 2014, 05:14:01 PM »

Done! Will try to trim at Clayton Green on Saturday, so here are some pics just in case.
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« Reply #243 on: April 02, 2014, 05:35:58 PM »

Great job Pete ... good luck at the weekend!  Smiley
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« Reply #244 on: April 02, 2014, 05:42:01 PM »

Nice work Pete, a very imposing looking model....

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« Reply #245 on: April 02, 2014, 06:18:44 PM »

It has a classic hand crafted look.
Very appealing. Smiley
Good luck Pete.

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« Reply #246 on: April 03, 2014, 12:59:31 PM »

Love it.
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« Reply #247 on: April 03, 2014, 02:59:53 PM »

That's looking very good Pete, looking forward to seeing it in the flesh at Clayton this Saturday. Won't be entering Kit Scale this year. I put together a Skylake Models Waco SRE but I'm not happy with the finish, so I'm just entering a Volksplane in open rubber this year (God help me!!).

 Cheers, Dave  Grin
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« Reply #248 on: April 03, 2014, 03:25:08 PM »

Thanks everyone! Dave, glad you're going on Saturday. Should be an interesting day if Tim brings his new Zlin too. Is it a new Volksplane you're entering? Must have been another impressively speedy build if it is.
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« Reply #249 on: April 03, 2014, 03:56:22 PM »

Hi Pete,
it is an enlarged version of my peanut model. It has flown in its unpainted state so I've got to be brave and see how it goes now. I'll bring it along to Clayton so you can have a look along with my Waco and an untrimmed  peanut Bristol Brownie.
Cheers, Dave  Tongue Undecided
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