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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2013, 07:02:43 PM »

To leave Baron von Carlsberg's DVII for a minute, have just found a genuine photo of my albatros. Well, the front two thirds of it at least. It was in a nice collection of photos here: http://www.chmelnice.org/index.php/2011/10/jasta-2-prvni-ze-vsech/
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2013, 02:36:23 PM »

Good luck, Pete! Should be a good one...

I've printed out some more lozenge tissue from the FF Scale website; this time at the original 1/24th scale. I'm going to try it out on a smaller, sport model before tackling the DVII. That way, I can find out the best techniques for adhering/finishing without worrying about it! I'm thinking of Walt Mooney's Hergt Monoplane peanut or Bill Hannan's Ten Cent Time Machine Fokker.

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2013, 07:37:59 PM »

Albatros kit has arrived so might start soon. Had a quick look at the plan (Midkiff) which looks great. Bit puzzled to find only the right hand lower wing on it though. As I'm supposed to build over the plan, doesn't this mean I'll have the hassle of copying and reversing it (or tracing it through onto the back) in order to build the LH wing? The joy of kit building for me is NOT having to do that kind of thing, but perhaps I'm missing something as usual.

(Incidentally, Dan- do you want this thread used as a general WW1 Aerographics meeting place, or is it really intended as a thread for your own two builds? If the latter then I'll put further Albatros updates elsewhere)


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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2013, 04:36:23 AM »

Pete, I don't mind either way! This wasn't really intended as just my build thread, so whatever you want...

No further progress on mine; I spent yesterday taking the wings, tail, prop etc. off a 1:1 scale Stearman!

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2013, 06:26:12 AM »

Hmm, 1th scale, eh? That's quite big. Might need something a bit heavier than Esaki on it, and a pretty mighty Gasparin I should think.
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2013, 08:26:13 AM »

A little big for Nottingham, certainly...
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2013, 01:15:22 PM »

I decided against interrupting the Fokker build just to try the lozenge tissue, so I covered the underside of the u/c stub wing first! I chickened out of using tissue paste as it's water based, but the gum-type stuff I used to cover the Scram had no effect on the printed tissue whatsoever! A promising start...

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2013, 01:26:16 PM »

Hey Dan, are you using an inkjet printer? To shrink it, stick the wing on a shelf in the bathroom, vertically, and have a hot shower, the steam should do the trick Wink
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2013, 01:30:32 PM »

That's a mental image for which I will not be preparing a photoshopped image!  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2013, 01:52:22 PM »

For which many people will be eternally grateful....

'Specially me!

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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2013, 01:55:57 PM »

Lozenge tissue steam shrunk as normal and has shrunk up nice and tight with two coats of dope. Not a trace of colours running, either!

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A very pleased Dan!
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« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2013, 02:47:34 PM »

OK, now I've remembered to charge the camera, here's a couple of pics of the printed tissue!

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2013, 06:15:37 AM »

Came out nice!  Did you use the "normal" or "draft" ink setting?

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« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2013, 12:59:34 PM »

Whatever the printer was set to already!

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« Reply #39 on: September 21, 2013, 02:48:23 PM »

Here's a couple of pics of the current state of play. It's starting to look like an aeroplane! I managed to bend all the wirework today; usually my least favourite job and a particular nightmare on a DVII! The centre section struts dictate the position of the top wing, so they had to be accurate...

Noseblock and CO2 tank mounting to sort out and it's pretty much ready for covering, after a marathon lozenge printing session, of course!

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« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2013, 04:29:23 PM »

After contemplating making a rad. grill from 28g wire (VERY briefly!), I spent a couple of days wondering how to do it without going insane. As it had to be "built in" before going any further, I was a bit stumped! It's amazing what you can do with a tea bag (Unused!) and a spot of paint!!

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« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2013, 04:43:33 PM »

Nowt wrong with what you have done Dan .... I would have raided another 'spatter guard' for it though (might still have offcuts from the last one)
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »

Link to one of my 'eternal' threads if you haven't seen one used before?

http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14366.0;attach=94217;image

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« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2013, 05:01:07 PM »

Nice, Russ! I didn't have anything similar to hand, so a tea bag it was! It looks OK, I think...

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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2013, 05:09:51 PM »

Yours looks fine Dan  Smiley ... it was just with you mentioning a wire option, I didn't know if you had ever spotted these spatter guards.
You can still get one for less than £2 I think from somewhere like Wilkinsons or The Range.
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« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2013, 12:50:53 PM »

Radiator grills were always a nightmare for me before I got some of the nylon (more likely Perlon?) screening material to keep the summer bugs outa da haus.  Available in white or black, and is stretchable, so one can vary the weave size a bit.  Works and looks OK, and I have LOTS of off-cuts Wink.

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« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2013, 01:43:03 PM »

I use copper gauze. Can't remember where it came from - one of those "that looks useful" moments.
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« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2013, 04:12:13 PM »

Yes Bill!! I tend to hoard stuff, much to Jill's dismay, but then when I actually need something... vanished into the ether. Either we have a poltergeist or our maniac cats really will eat anything.

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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2013, 04:42:48 PM »

Covering is now underway in earnest. I've still failed to find a genuine scheme that appealed or didn't look a screaming nightmare to do, so it's still going to be a fictitious one... Looking at the rules and judge's guide again, a specific prototype is not required. As long as it's finished "in an appropriate manner", I should be ok. With that in mind, I'm hoping lozenge camo, national markings and spurious Jasta and personal markings (if I can be bothered!) will pass muster. If not, never mind. I said I was going to finish it how I wanted! I'm still quite astounded by how well the printed tissue turned out, as well as it's hardiness when done! Tissue paste is a no-no, but anything else doesn't seem to touch it.

I think Pete Fardell was called upon by the judges to explain the printed tissue on his DVIII at the Indoor Nats this year. I would argue that most beginners/younger modellers these days would be far more likely to go the printed route than trying to do it any other way as they are all far more computer savvy than this old git will ever be!

Back with some pics when I get a bit further...

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2013, 06:11:28 PM »

I was indeed asked by Charlie Newman to justify my printed lozenges, but it was okay because the templates from which I printed came on a CD as part of the kit. In any case (possibly partly due to that model) the kit scale rules have now been changed to allow printed tissue (at least that's my understanding).
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