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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 10:01:12 PM »

I agree with everything. Grin
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 07:58:47 PM »

I have airplanes covered with silk and various kinds of paper that are 25 - 50 years old that were doped with Aerogloss.  They are still sound.  The coverings I have done only 5 years ago have spider lines and are brittle.  Did I just get a bad batch? 
I think there are era 1 designs I would still like to build as my Torp .15 outruns my best Max III .15.  Both are over 18,000.
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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2014, 09:10:50 PM »

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  18K on a GH Torp with an 8x4 is great.Most turn around 13.5K and start to come apart if you make them go much faster.Yes there are many era 1 models that would do just fine in Vintage FAI.I like to fly Vintage because it is flown on Fri. before the main contest and I'm only flying the one event.Unlike the 6 I try to fly in the main contest.The guys around are all just there for the fun of it,good times.
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2014, 09:34:35 AM »

I have airplanes covered with silk and various kinds of paper that are 25 - 50 years old that were doped with Aerogloss.  They are still sound.  The coverings I have done only 5 years ago have spider lines and are brittle.  Did I just get a bad batch? 
I think there are era 1 designs I would still like to build as my Torp .15 outruns my best Max III .15.  Both are over 18,000.

Whatever you used prior to 1986 is not the same as it is now. Label notwithstanding.
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« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2014, 10:58:43 PM »

I've been a bit too busy for much modelling recently, but I got a few hours in on Night Train VII.
A couple of pictures have appeared before, but to recap, this is a new wing and tail on an old 1980 F1C fuselage cut down (cut up?) to suit.
I'd not seen a Night Train plan when I built my first 80s F1Cs, but my old fuselages are almost identical in construction, just needing a change to the pylon and fin, and reduction in length.

John
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« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2014, 11:44:59 PM »

Great covering job, John!
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2014, 12:34:31 AM »

John,great job but it looks like it might have been easier to just build a new body.I can say that because I did the same thing with my Dad's old FAI model.Used an old fuselage from the 80's removed the pylon and cut off the rudder,then put it all back together with a few new parts added his wing & stab, now have a new Vintage FAI model.I'll try to trim it at the contest in Aug. hope you can make it. Sorry I don't have any photo's. 
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« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2014, 01:12:10 AM »

I like recycling, Bruce  Cheesy
Besides, I would have had to throw away my old fuselage, and I...........
........well, I was finding that hard :'(

I had hundreds of flights with that model as an F1C - I didn't win anything with it, but I sure had fun flying it.
John

Monocoupe110, by the way had just about built a Rounsaville Excelsior B gas model - in under 2 weeks - and beautifully built it is too.
Not Vintage FAI, but still gas. K&B 29 (front induction) going into that one, I believe.
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« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2014, 06:41:25 PM »

Together for the first time.
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« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2014, 08:49:22 PM »

Is that your aeroplane in reply #33 John?  I thought it was a new one from Bob de Shields at first but he doesn't normally pick a model as elegant as that.

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« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2014, 12:49:41 AM »

Yes, John that's my model.
I can't say I agree with you about Bob deShields choice of model, though. He's picked some beauties, Gastove and Saturn in particular. Also he helped me with the graphic on the tail.
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« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2014, 08:58:10 AM »

 John

 Sharp looking Model.

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« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2014, 09:06:17 AM »

Very nice airplane, John!

 You mentioned 'Saturn';  I had one of these decades ago with an Oliver in the nose, flew very well for its time.   Silvio Lanfranchi wanted to buy it from me at first sight     Grin
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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2014, 09:56:32 AM »

Speaking of the Saturn, I'm just about to start covering my little Saturn...the 1/2A Solar

Cheers, Nigel  Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2014, 12:35:33 PM »

Nice work Nigel, I look forward to seeing that one flying.

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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2014, 05:35:34 PM »

Nigel's Salt Lake City Sadie now has a cowl.

This is going to be a great looking model.
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2014, 11:13:01 AM »

I learnt today that George French died in April.

For those that don't know, he was a very successful FAI Power flier in the UK in the 60's culminating in 2nd place at the 1967 World Champs flying his Night Train design, which is also a particular favourite of mine. Night Train was also very successful for other people, as was it's baby brother 1/2A Train.

Rest in peace, George, it was a pleasure and an honour knowing you!

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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2014, 05:54:40 PM »

1/2A Train was a great model-and a lot higher aspect ratio than was common for 1/2A's for the era (1969)-Martin Gregorie developed it still further as an F1J in the late 80s early 90s, but still managed to retain the George French aesthetics of the design. I have (ex Woodhouse) the early Night Train plan (Mk2?) which I'll eventually build for a G20......

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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2014, 08:23:13 PM »

I am very sorry to here of his passing,I never met him but did very much admire his work.I often wonder if there will be anyone left around to remember any of us. Undecided :'(
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2014, 09:26:12 PM »

RIP George French.   His power models from the photo's I've seen going back to the '60s were a work of art.
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« Reply #45 on: July 10, 2014, 07:55:58 AM »

I had the privilege of meeting George when I was building the Mk 2 Night Train. He was a very interesting man to talk to & indeed a craftsman. He was kind enough to show me both his Mk 2 & Mk 7 Night trains that had both seen serious competition useage. Unfortunately although I met him & visited twice after the initial visit, I was not flying models competitively in the same era as him, so never encountered him on the flying field.

Rest in peace, George.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2014, 11:04:02 AM »

There is not enough going on in the Power section these days..................

My 2nd Night Train is done - I just need to strap on the tuned pipe, and double check the rigging against the first one, and I am off to the flying field.

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1) Front fuselage as the lines are being hooked to the timer.
2) Night Train mk.7 (version 2) - just the tuned pipe to go.
3) I love George French designs.........

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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2014, 02:42:35 PM »

Well done John. Don't crash it before Albany! Grin
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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2014, 05:23:04 PM »

If it's going to crash Nigel, I want to know...............

.........I think, maybe.........
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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2014, 07:19:09 PM »

The Vintage FAI Challenge is over for another year, and it was the best yet (IMHO).

The results (unofficial)
1) Glen Schneider (Era 3 Lucky Lindy with ST G20/15)
2) Bruce Hannah (Era 2 Ray Monks with OS Max III 15)
3) Ken Kaiser (Era 3 Texan FAITON (?) with OS Max III 15)

(These guys made 5 x 3 minute maxes and flew off)

4) Bob Stalick (Era 1 Top Banana with K&B Greenhead 15)
5) John Buskell (Era 5 Night Train with ST G15F1)

(I know I got the top 3 right, not 100% sure about 4&5)

There was some great flying, and flying to 3 minutes, we saw some true 15 second climbs. Man, do those Era 2 and 3 models get high in 15 secs!
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