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« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2015, 07:57:18 PM »

"Just one more waaffer thin mint?" .... to which Mr. Creosote replied ..... Grin

This clip always comes to mind when I feel I am going to far ..... and a tale about tigers chasing their tails until they turned to butter.
Couldn't remember where that was from ... a quick google returned a non-PC answer!

Anyway I rambling .... must retire to my lovely stone pillow and horse hair pyjamas  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2015, 08:19:24 PM »

Didn't think I could feel more inadequate, but I can...!

Good stuff Russ. Love your builds.

Cheers,

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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2015, 09:39:10 PM »

That says "PATENT PALMER RIMS", dimension not given but it looks like 3/16, and centred under it, 5/32 high, "TYPE Y1 Y3&W1". No space either side of the ampersand.

Have you spoken with Miss Lyons? I bet she could figure out how to do it.

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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2015, 11:09:43 PM »

This was easy but I didn't think of it.
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2015, 05:39:29 AM »

I think that may be 'Greeked' at best Art!
I have to admit that I have machines that will do this for me ... but I think even they would struggle on the smaller text!
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« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2015, 08:12:35 AM »

I saw Paul Brigg's SE5 model recently.  He did that same text on tires by gluing on some tiny little white plastic letters (for the life of me I can't remember where he got them - sorry), then he painted everything black.  A swift brush across the letters with wet and dry took the paint off them only - leaving them very well defined indeed.....

Looking forward to seeing this Russ.....

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« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2015, 10:53:05 AM »

Thanks Andrew ... I suppose thinking about it, good old fashioned Letraset would probably make a good job?
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« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2015, 03:10:17 PM »

Do they still do that stuff?  I will ask Paul what he used next time I see him....

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« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2015, 02:24:23 PM »

Slaters Plastikard Ltd. sell small plastic letters and numbers like those described by Andrew, principally for model railway work, but the smallest they do are 2mm.

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« Reply #34 on: October 10, 2015, 02:40:30 PM »

Thanks Dave .... I'm hoping to try something tomorrow that might work well enough.
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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2015, 04:44:05 PM »

I've been playing with the wheels again today .... but nothing much to show.
Decided that a bit too much had been lost in finishing the tyres so I prepared a few more.

Started to move the plan beyond a three view trace.
I've decided to use some of my stock of carbon fibre . I'm using 2mm diameter tube for the leading edge and 1mm diameter tube for the trailing edge.
A new thing (again ... for me) that I am going to try is moulding some carbon tips using carbon tow.

Here's a lo-res snapshot of the basic wing assembly as drawn so far ... the thin LE and TE hopefully will give a decent scale appearance and should have the benefit of increased strength
(though I do expect to pay a slight weight penalty for this)
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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2015, 05:00:04 PM »

Actually, I did get a shot of the first of the new tyres and one of the neater centre hubs.

I think the carbon tube I am using is the Maarten Vandijk stuff .... I got it 'in the field' from Mike Woodhouse (Free Flight Supplies) years ago.
It's strong enough, but needs careful handling when cutting. I've used the really small stuff (0.5mm rod?) as the core of the struts for my Pensuti triplane, struts for my peanut Pietenpol etc.

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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2015, 05:36:56 PM »

Looking good Russ. What span does 16th end up as then?
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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2015, 05:41:44 PM »

Thanks John ... the span is about 505mm
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« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2015, 04:49:55 PM »

Warning!: I have annoyed myself a little with the following ... those who have been helpful may feel annoyed too!

I have a vinyl cutter .... I recently cut some very fiddly registered trade mark 'R's. I thought I had gone as small as possible with these.
Perhaps for little 'stick on' letters I had ... but it occurred to me earlier that a 'negative mask' would perhaps hold together at the 1.6mm required for the Palmer Cord writing.
It did hold together ... and this is the result. The 'P' and 'A' centre pieces did disappear, but they could be dotted back in with paint after the mask has been used to spray in the white.
Looks like I've got something that will do it after all ( ....no, I'm not going to try the 700 x 75!)

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« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2015, 06:06:57 PM »

( ....no, I'm not going to try the 700 x 75!)

Are you sure, Russ? I can see Alex Whittaker's report now...
"Russ Lister stole the show with his new model; a very fine Sopwith Pup, perfect in almost every detail and let down only by the glaring absence of the numbers on its tyres."  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2015, 06:52:13 PM »

Stop it Pete! ... you know I will rise to the bait!

Yup, I had to try it .... to be honest, the larger lettering is just clinging on in there so I might do a 'blur' of the smaller stuff but not get it defined.

The cut to the right is an attempt at a mask to fill the centres back in .... far too fiddly at the minute with my blunt ended scalpel.
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2015, 03:57:26 PM »

It looks like the vinyl mask will work .... just needs a few of the letters tweaking a bit.
For some reason some of the letters are a little too fine, even though drawn at the same weight. The 'A' and the 'Y' particularly.
Other than that I am happy with the result ... I might even make the small sevens a little larger to show more.
I used white AV acrylic for the lettering ... misted in from nearly two foot away to avoid the initial bleed that I got.

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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2015, 04:00:17 PM »

Russ,

Big respect, you are a man that suffers for your art.  Pete, you are the devil in disguise Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2015, 04:01:08 PM »

I managed to get on the CNC router with a trial set of ribs ... these are cut with a 1mm cutter.
Not as sharp as a laser with a bit of furring, but still god enough.
You can also make out where I have opened up the corners to save having to square them out ... again, something that you don't have to do with a laser.
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« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2015, 04:02:43 PM »

Thanks Andrew.
I forgot to mention that I just scratched out the 'O' centres etc. ... looks good enough with my naked eye!
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« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2015, 02:22:50 AM »

You know Russ - I like that a bit.
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« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2015, 04:02:38 PM »

Re-strung the trial wheel today .... then minutes later nearly wrote it off completely in the lathe!
Mounted it in the lathe to cut the axle pieces to length. I knew I would have to take it steady. Got close to finishing, then it broke loose.
Note to self .... cut them to length before assembly next time  Undecided
After all this messing about, I'm thinking about going back to my usual method of thin ply 'fins' representing the spokes.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say!
I did say at the beginning I was going to follow things more 'live' than usual ... warts 'n all.

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« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2015, 04:56:39 PM »

Awesome stuff, Russ!

I wish I had your patience, never mind skill!

Cheers,

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« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2015, 05:20:28 PM »

Cheers Dan .... I know you have both!
I have the Aerographics Camel open at the same time as I'm doing this .... love looking through Dave Causer's details!
Are you still going to be build the Camel? I find the plan etc. is brilliant, but mine seems to have been let down by the laser cutting (may have mentioned before?).
Just seems to stop me from getting going on it.  

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