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« on: February 22, 2016, 02:12:07 PM »

Once again I'm asking for the community's help with my paper on the history of FAI Power/F1C for the 2016 NFFS Sympo.

I've been trying to think of model kits that were specifically designed for FAI Power. The only one that I can come up with was Goldberg's FAI Viking. (I don't remember seeing one flown in FAI; please let me know if you saw one fly at FAI weights.)

There were a lot of magazine plans from that period, but none seem to have been kitted.

Were there any kits in GB or elsewhere?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2016, 02:22:16 PM »

Well, kind of, sort of...

Sal Taibi once told me that the Starduster 600 could have flown in FAI Power. But as far as I know, no one ever did.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 02:45:23 PM »

Starduster:

I actually flew a 1/2 Zeek, with wing and stab cut down and a longer fuselage in junior FAI Power at the 1961 Nats, put floats on it for ROW--got two third places.  Still have the model.

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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2016, 03:32:01 PM »

Hi Louis,

Barry Wheeler's 1952 World Championship winning model, the Eliminator, was kitted by Chuck Doughty. The kit was reviewed in the May 1953 Aeromodeller.

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2016, 03:44:38 PM »

I believe Paul Andrade set a national record with an FAI Viking around 1970
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2016, 03:55:07 PM »

Some German and a Swedish kit model. The picture shows Lothar Piesk at the world campion ship 1958 in Cranfield.

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2016, 08:40:41 PM »

Thanks to all.

It is interesting that two of the kits (Wheeler's Eliminator & Piesk's Atlas) were 1.5cc models.  I remember the Atlantis being featured in Model Airplane News   around 1959-60.  I assume that was the same as the Atlas. They both had the coweled engine and distinctive rudder---very attractive design.

Glad to hear that Paul had good luck with the Viking. I don't remember seeing the 15 size one fly back then, only the 1/2A version.  The consensus in our club was that the Blazer was the better design (lots of pylon vs hi-thrust arguments back then).

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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2016, 11:57:30 PM »

Hi Louis,

Was Carl Wheeley's Senator kitted by Berkeley?

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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 12:48:09 AM »

Amazon by Stan Hill. See: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SFRYeYoVqHw/Ss_ePPJehFI/AAAAAAAAD7Y/5x3Wai6L5pI/s1600/amazon-400-kit.jpg

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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 05:05:08 AM »

I'd have thought that even by the late 1950's and early 1960's FAI Power models were getting too complicated to kit, and would have had a very limited appeal anyway.
The only kit power model to really have an impact on contest-flying, at least in the UK, was the Yeoman "Dixielander", built in its hundreds if not thousands, but this was for Open (and later Slow Open) Power, which attracted a much larger entry than FAI. The "Dixielander" was dead simple, and if you couldn't get one of them to fly then FF Power was not for you.

I do have an extremely faint memory of an FAI power model being kitted somewhere in Eastern Europe [possibly the "Taltos" by Frigyes?]. Can't confirm this, though.

A long-gone pal of mine built an "Atlas", He built it because it 'looked nice', didn't make a very good job of it, and I don't think it survived trimming. If memory serves, I believe that model was also published as a plan in Aeromodeller.

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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 09:02:42 AM »

Hi Norm:

Thanks. I'd completely forgotten about the Amazon---but then it was a Berkeley kit, the few Berkeley kits my dad had in his hobby shop never sold well. I rememberer the Hank Struck Wakefield kit occupied shelf space from the early 1950s until he closed in the late 1970s. I think I was the only one that even opened the box. My dad considered a design being kitted by Berkeley the kiss of death.  Their version of the Ramrod 250 bore little resemblance, construction-wise, to the original. The biggest problem was the flat-bottom stab--the bent-balsa upper ribs on the original produced a bit of Philips entry.

 I'll check through what few old magazines I have regarding the Senator.

Louis

PS Sorry I didn't make it out to Lost Hills---perhaps next year.
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2016, 10:47:00 AM »

My dad considered a design being kitted by Berkeley the kiss of death.

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I remember the first shop I bought balsa from, 1958 onwards. They had a Berkeley kit for a flying boat and it was still there when I retuned many years later. The white box just a bit greyer.
But still, at that time I would have loved to have and build it. The same as the Atlas from Piesk, kitted by Graupner. But much to expensive these days.

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2016, 09:39:31 PM »

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I've been trying to think of model kits that were specifically designed for FAI Power. The only one that I can come up with was Goldberg's FAI Viking. (I don't remember seeing one flown in FAI; please let me know if you saw one fly at FAI weights.)
I was only a junior then but saw Doug Murray from West Australia win FAI power at the 1962-63 Aust Nationals with a kit Viking to FAI weight. From memory it's the only time a Hi-thrust model has won FAI power at an OZ Nats.

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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2016, 10:24:48 AM »

Here's one I forgot about the Midi- Pearl was flown as a FAI model as was the 450 Satallite
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