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« on: February 26, 2016, 09:02:57 PM »

I have the Bob Holman short kit and hope to build 2 planes, one with with bamboo tips and the other with laminated. I haven't done either before, so it will be a learning experience. The kit consists of 1 plywood sheet containing form to bend the tip outline, and 1 sheet with wing and fuselage ribs and formers. I plan to incorporate a pop-up tail DT using a silly putty timer. I can't seem to find 1/32 aluminum wire, so will use music wire to form the cockpit. Because life keeps interfering with modeling I'm a slow builder. Please be patient as I work my way through.

http://www.gregorie.org/freeflight/silly_dt/index.html

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2016, 10:40:20 PM »

Oh wow, great to see this build! I also have the Holman kit and have been staring at the plan lately, I don't know about that wire wing saddle. It's a nice looking plane, looking forward to your build, hopefully there will also be some flying info!
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2016, 06:20:16 PM »

Looking forward to following this build.  Have you a color scheme in mind yet?
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 01:00:19 PM »

Hi Pat, I thought I'd follow the plan with red tail and blue wings, but I'm not sure about blue or yellow for the fuselage. I steamed and formed the longerons so as not to build in stress if I could help it. I'm also going to try carving my first prop. The procedure I will be following is in the link below.

As long as I know people are following the build maybe it will give me incentive to keep on instead of getting distracted!

Bill G.   Huh

http://website.lineone.net/~raynes.pk.mac/makeprop.htm
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 07:47:55 PM »

Hey we can't have you being distracted Smiley I'm following with interest.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 08:07:16 PM »

I don't comment much, but I am following with great interest.  I love these Jimmy Allen ships.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 08:30:33 PM »

I've got the Holman short kit too, but am stuck as I can't figure out what to do instead of the goofy music wire wing saddle.  Help!!

How are you going to do it?

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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 09:02:57 PM »

I'm building it for FAC competition, so as I read the rules I have to keep the wire saddle.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 09:38:49 PM »

Oh-Oh!  Me too.  I think I'm in trouble.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 09:05:04 AM »

The longer I study the plans the more amazed I am that kids managed to get them flying! There's the plans aren't saying.

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 09:06:38 AM »

That should read: There's a lot the plans aren't saying.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 09:16:01 AM »

I'm building it for FAC competition, so as I read the rules I have to keep the wire saddle.

I am confident that the FAC Rules will allow you to re-engineer the wing mounting system.  This is not an uncommon modification to OT models and is written into the rules: "changes to incorporate a removable wing, tail, or landing gear are permitted".

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 09:19:20 AM »

Thanks George!  I really didn't want to do that wire saddle business for mounting the wings.  I just gotta figure out what I do want to do!

Scott
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2016, 10:02:31 AM »

George, the wings are already removable, so gluing them in place might not be allowed under that section. If i were going to glue them on, I would add a strut from the upper fuselage to the fourth rib.

Bill.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2016, 10:11:09 AM »

I've also been thinking about changing the wing saddle since I've also been thinking about building the plane. Best I could come up with so far was to fill the side in with some sheet on the lower half, and the bottom, to make an open half-box, maybe with some reinforcements across the bottom 1/2" or so (to clear the rubber), and then glueing the wings on the side of that, so that you remove the whole open crate. That's the best I've come up with so far, but I usually just build it first and then try figure something out later!
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2016, 08:58:09 AM »

Finishing the fuselage sides. I looked on the internet to get an idea of rear peg positions, and they're all over the map. Everywhere from the leading edge of the stab to the trailing edge of the wing! I,m going to put mine at upright #9 and if I need to I can move it forward another bay.

The upper formers don't have notches for the stringers, apparently they just glue to the top of the formers. I'm thinking about 1/2 depth notches for more gluing surface. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Bill G.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2016, 09:16:31 AM »

US Army blue and chrome yellow would look great on this plane! 
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2016, 09:22:16 AM »

That was my thought Pat. Some sort of pre WWII color scheme.
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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 11:32:39 AM »

It's been a rough year, but I'm back making progress. In between I built the Tail-Firster embryo http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=21200.0

The Fuse is framed up and ready to add the wire around the cockpit. I found the wire at Jo-Ann's Fabrics. The landing gear is built and wrapped, and I'm starting on the wheels.

The color scheme will be blue fuselage, yellow wings, and red tail. With luck it should be ready for glide tests by Christmas.

Bill G.
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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2017, 11:56:35 AM »

Some more progress. Fuselage is about complete.
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« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2017, 01:42:09 PM »

Ready to cover! Trying to get ready for the FAC outdoor Champs and Ted Dock contests on the 14th thru 17th.
Steamed the wash-in out of the left wing after the pictures were taken.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2017, 09:01:27 PM »

Very nice work.

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2017, 08:09:06 PM »

Thanks Scott, it's been struggle. Wednesday the 13th I stuck everything together with rubber bands and glide tested in the back yard. That went OK so I left for Muncie. Wednesday night I put the windscreen on in the Hotel. Thursday I was busy flying events so didn't get to try trimming until Friday. My decent glide had turned into a stall and fall off to the left. After doing that three times I decided to put it away until I can trim it over some tall grass. I still need to set up the DT and install a pilot, so am not calling the build complete yet. It's been an experience, and I've learned a lot from it. Enjoy the pictures.

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2017, 08:57:22 PM »

Neat-looking ship - I like the colors!
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2017, 09:06:00 PM »

Thanks Mike, I might put some Jimmie Allen markings on the sides when I ge around to it.
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