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« Reply #175 on: October 23, 2017, 03:56:00 PM »

Thanks gents.  Ralph the 'pedestal' is the lid of one of my gramophones.  In this case a 1924 Columbia.

Cheers, Mike
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« Reply #176 on: October 23, 2017, 05:58:48 PM »

Beautiful model and photos Mike. Test glides - that's brave Smiley
Happy flying
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« Reply #177 on: October 26, 2017, 12:25:20 AM »

Thanks gents.  Ralph the 'pedestal' is the lid of one of my gramophones.  In this case a 1924 Columbia.

A man after my own heart. 1925 Victrola VV-210 #184521 sits right by me as I write this.
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« Reply #178 on: October 27, 2017, 05:05:25 AM »

Thanks gents.  Ralph the 'pedestal' is the lid of one of my gramophones.  In this case a 1924 Columbia.

A man after my own heart. 1925 Victrola VV-210 #184521 sits right by me as I write this.

Can't help wondering - how many turns do they take? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #179 on: October 27, 2017, 08:22:23 AM »

Can't help wondering - how many turns do they take? Roll Eyes
About 15 turns for a Glenn Miller record
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« Reply #180 on: October 27, 2017, 01:47:36 PM »

A gramophone?...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQqWSnsHoA

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« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2017, 02:28:56 PM »

torque output is very consistent at 78rpm for most of the run
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« Reply #182 on: October 28, 2017, 03:03:19 AM »

Does the globe have the Trans World Airways' and Pan Am clipper routes marked on it?
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« Reply #183 on: October 29, 2017, 01:20:45 PM »

OK so this is my thread and I can have gramphones on it if I want!  This is my 1929 HMV Model 163 which my grandparents bought new at the time.  These probably represented the peak of development for wind-up gramophones.  It has a massive re-entrant horn inside the cabinet and it puts out a huge sound. We usually play it with the volume control doors shut.  It takes 53 turns from empty and you get 3 records per wind.

As for the Borel, I'm onto rigging at this point.  The rigging is for scale effect only as the carbon mainspar does all the heavy lifting.  I have the rigging running freely through the wings in vertical tubes which means that they can hook on at the top and I only need one dental band at the bottom.  Turnbuckles are tissue tube wrapped around a 22SWG mandrel and hardened with cyano.

The Borel logo is a quick mock-up I did to test a method so it's a bit rough.  The real one will be better.  This is just stuck on with double-sided tape to give you the idea.  I also have to do the word HYDRAVION that sits above the Borel logo - yikes!   This is half the size again.  Times like this I wish I was one of you graphic artist types!!
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« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2017, 01:32:34 PM »

Oh wow, it's even more gorgeous with the rigging! I think I want to marry it and have its babies.
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« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2017, 01:46:54 PM »

Marvellous, gorgeous, a piece of art

Urs

PS: of course I speak about the gramophone  Grin
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« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2017, 04:52:42 PM »

I think I like the gramophone better than the model, but when the model gets to be almost 90 years old I reserve the right to change my mind.

Nice carved cabinet, very good looking.

I recall the moment when I realized that the "volume control" on my Victrola was a pair of doors, that really cracked me up.
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« Reply #187 on: October 30, 2017, 12:24:20 AM »

A man of taste and talent Mike. beautiful workmanship in both.

John
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« Reply #188 on: October 30, 2017, 05:30:10 AM »

That'll be quarter-sawn oak - first time I've seen oak praised on this forum!
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« Reply #189 on: November 15, 2017, 09:02:37 PM »

Back in reply #183 you saw my first hand painted attempt at a mock-up of the Borel logo.  This was marginal and I was not keen to tackle HYDRAVION!  A second attempt using a hand-cut spray mask was also not great.  Rather than spoil the ship for a ha'penny worth of tar,  I sent my hand drawn artwork to a mate with digital skills who produced a lovely AI file and then on to a guy who produced these fantastic decals.

I got sufficient to cope with stuff-ups and future crashes!  I also had a number printed at the original 1/20 scale of the Lubomir Koutny design in case I or others either have built this model at 1/20 or wish to.

I''m happy to share gratis,  subject only to seeing evidence of the model completed or well under way!
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« Reply #190 on: November 15, 2017, 11:16:22 PM »

11-15-2017

I love it, fantastic work, who's your label guy, he does great work too.

Cheers, Ray K.
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« Reply #191 on: November 19, 2017, 12:05:38 PM »

Well folks here she is with the signwriting on the front.  I'm very happy with it.  I floated the decal on with Tamiya Markfit which is a trick I learned from the plastic modellers.  This product gently dissolves the the carrier film and allows the decal to somehow meld itself into the paintwork and achieve that painted on look rather than just stuck on top.  Not much more to do now - just finish the rigging on the other side and a few little scale fittings to go
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« Reply #192 on: November 19, 2017, 12:56:48 PM »

Congratulations on a beautiful build!  I enjoyed following along.
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« Reply #193 on: November 19, 2017, 01:38:52 PM »

Gorgeous model  Smiley
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« Reply #194 on: November 19, 2017, 01:43:07 PM »

Wow...

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« Reply #195 on: November 19, 2017, 02:00:08 PM »

Mike
I 've looked through the thread but can't find how you 'did' the colour of the floats. They look very nice.
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« Reply #196 on: November 19, 2017, 02:29:54 PM »

really beautiful, well done
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« Reply #197 on: November 19, 2017, 02:40:29 PM »

Mike
I 've looked through the thread but can't find how you 'did' the colour of the floats. They look very nice.
Bill

Bill it was actually really simple and very satisfying.  I painted the floats with Tamiya desert yellow and then when it was dry I wiped on burnt umber artists oils.   You can shake in any kind of grain you want and represent different panels. Be prepared for the oil paint to take a couple of days to dry properly. Then you can give it a coat of clear orange for varnished effect.  There's a good little tutorial on the Wingnut Wings website.  I used the same technique on my prop.

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips
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« Reply #198 on: November 19, 2017, 03:16:23 PM »

Quite a lot of awe from this corner. Well done!
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« Reply #199 on: November 20, 2017, 01:44:59 AM »

Lost for words Mike. Thanks for all your info on this and your other threads.

John
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