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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2017, 08:39:53 PM »

My beef with chalk is that it adds excess weight. Not that I haven't done it more than once...but I had to brush it off a lot, which also worked it into the fibers...what ever! live and learn! anything you add to the payload is gonna add weight. You need to be thinking about weight mitigation. My Seven Swabians DVII had chalk and as BG says, it looke great!...but it weighed in on the porky scale!
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 08:56:15 PM »

Its True ... that is my gripe with Chalk too. Perhaps a dusting of white with an airbrush would be a better alternative.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2017, 10:42:58 AM »

Hi Monz! Personally I don't think George's stencil idea is entirely barmy. I tried it for a 4-colour lozenge and thought it would be feasible if exacting. I think I had a rectangular stencil with one cutout of each of the different lozenge shapes of one colour - mebbe six or nine cutouts, can't  remember. This stencil and the material (sheet in my case not tissue) were carefully marked so the stencil could be moved into its next position; sprayed; slid; sprayed, then the stencil of the next colour was placed and sprayed. . .so only four stencils, in fact.

However, that was an experiment for a small Fokker D.VIII - i.e. only fuselage and tailplane lozenged. Add another colour, and with the wings to do as well. . .hmmm yes, quite involved.

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2017, 11:04:23 AM »

Hi again Monique. I am a recovering madman who once also did the stencil thing, Like any wise madman I still have my guitar & pen, my plastering tools, and my stencils and airbrush, though they are gathering dust. The ink? Dr. Ph Martins' Spectralite. Fantastic vibrance of color, for little application. Here is the evidence, forgive the poison green, I was going through a green period.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2017, 12:01:05 PM »

No, you aren't truly mad unless you spend a winter masking lozenges with tape and then handpainting.
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 04:49:02 PM »

My beef with chalk is that it adds excess weight. Not that I haven't done it more than once...but I had to brush it off a lot, which also worked it into the fibers...what ever! live and learn! anything you add to the payload is gonna add weight. You need to be thinking about weight mitigation. My Seven Swabians DVII had chalk and as BG says, it looke great!...but it weighed in on the porky scale!

I've never tried chalking tissue, don't think I'd have the patience to rub it in, rub it off, rub it in!

Its True ... that is my gripe with Chalk too. Perhaps a dusting of white with an airbrush would be a better alternative.
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Hi Monz! Personally I don't think George's stencil idea is entirely barmy. I tried it for a 4-colour lozenge and thought it would be feasible if exacting. I think I had a rectangular stencil with one cutout of each of the different lozenge shapes of one colour - mebbe six or nine cutouts, can't  remember. This stencil and the material (sheet in my case not tissue) were carefully marked so the stencil could be moved into its next position; sprayed; slid; sprayed, then the stencil of the next colour was placed and sprayed. . .so only four stencils, in fact.

However, that was an experiment for a small Fokker D.VIII - i.e. only fuselage and tailplane lozenged. Add another colour, and with the wings to do as well. . .hmmm yes, quite involved.

Stephen.

I have been giving George's stencil idea some more thought, and if I was doing a bigger model I'd probably attempt it. I was studying the reference aeroplane's lozenge last night, which was doing my head in trying to match up to what's available out there on the net, and after much squinting I saw that there are sections of the wings where the fabric has been fitted upside down to other sections next to it. I think I'm going to redraw it to the size I need and then print off a bunch of 'rolls' of the stuff, whether on tish or decal is still undecided. Plenty of time till I get to that stage though.

So far, I've got the two fus frames built up and have begun joining them together. I've used 3/32 square balsa with some bamboo skewers in the cockpit area to simulate the steel tubing.

Hope to make some decent progress over the weekend. But, sunshine, beer, who knows Smiley

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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2017, 07:56:45 PM »

Only a little bit done this evening, slow and steady.

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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2017, 10:50:26 PM »

Where is the rear anchor for the rubber?  Possibly the wide upright just behind the lower wing saddle?  Good place.
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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2017, 10:59:18 PM »

It looks light and efficient and large compared to that glue bottle and can of soft drink.
What a nice work area.

Happy building

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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2017, 05:48:07 AM »

I can only aspire to such tidiness!  Grin

Looking very good Monique.
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« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2017, 09:42:41 AM »

Chalk adds weight? I've been doing chalk on tissue for years and have never noticed an appreciable gain in weight. There shouldn't be much chalk on the tissue when you are done. I always believed that it was one of the absolute lightest color applications available.

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« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2017, 11:35:32 AM »

Chalk doesn't add weight to the tissue or hardly noticeable. And you can do an A4 sheet in less than 5 minutes. Just put some chalk on the tissue, distribute and slightly press it with your finger and blow off what's left loosely, done!

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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2017, 05:26:54 PM »

Been doing a little bit when I can. Been adding the various little bits of visible cockpit tubing and gussets for the fuselage bracing wires. Hope to get some more finicky stuff done tomorrow.

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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2017, 07:08:29 PM »

That looks a bit special  Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2017, 01:51:37 AM »

How did you make the lovely curved corner tubes at the top of the cockpit?
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2017, 02:16:55 AM »

I was also wondering about those and realised that this is exactly the sort of application that rolled Hearty Clay is ideal for.  Any non structural parts such as these or the aluminium tube parts could be hearty clay if you were concerned about weight - not that Monique needs to be that's for sure!  Beautiful work Monz.
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2017, 06:49:29 AM »

Those white curved bits are from Johnson's cotton buds, super light and bendy Wink
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2017, 01:50:33 PM »

Cockpit floor progressing. I normally do this detailing at the end of the build and end up rushing it, so taking my time and doing it early on.

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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2017, 02:53:42 PM »

So, from what we see, you are planing to give Mike Stuart a run for his money in F4D...

An interesting duel.

Watching with interest

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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2017, 04:16:22 PM »

Lovely stuff so far Monz. Big is beautiful they say. Regarding the lozenge question, weren't there DVIIs with colour schemes that didn't have them, or are you set on them?

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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2017, 07:41:19 PM »

I just love looking at your framing.  The joins are just so perfect!  I keep trying but I will never get to your level, For that matter I will never get as good as most of the young "Cubs" in the JV-44.  I will keep watching with avid interest.
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« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2017, 05:06:37 PM »

Progress Monz?  We all are eagerly awaiting.
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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2017, 10:26:41 AM »

Good use of bamboo in the fuse. Did you have any glue joint drama?
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« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2017, 02:06:47 PM »

Hi all, sorry for the delay in replies. I've been looking at the recent posts bit at the bottom of the main page and forgot to come in here.

I see that all my linked images are gone. Turns out that Photobucket now want me to subscribe at $399/year to access 'third party hosting'. Screw that! Any recommendations for an image hosting site similar?

Dave, I'm set on this scheme, so lozenges it is!

Thanks Faif, measure, cut slightly longer, check fit, sand, check fit, sand, check fit, glue.

Crabby, I've read about bamboo joint issues, but these seem fine so far, I've knocked and dropped the fus a few times and they're holding.

Flydean, no progress so far, work has been hectic the past few weeks. It's looking quieter for July so hope to get some more done. It's a long shot at the moment, but I'm provisionally aiming for Nijmegen in November.
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« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2017, 06:04:25 PM »

Sorry for photobucket let you down, I hope you have the pic's saved on your pc as well.

Personally I prefer to store and save MY pictures on MY pc or two. At least if something crashes I know whom to blame  Wink

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