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« on: August 28, 2017, 03:40:25 PM »

After being hounded (excuse the pun!) by VMC for a while I have got round to doing a Sopwith Triplane for the range.

The relatively narrow chord of the wings meant I had to make this one an 18" span like the Tiger Moth, and unlike the SE5a, and Camel which are 16" span.

The picture shows my rough hand cut prototype airframe, I do this normally to quickly check for any gross errors and problems, try out the method for the wing alignment jigs and trial the first stab at the paper parts.

The tail surfaces will be built up, the sheet parts are just the basic outlines, and the observant of you might notice the missing wings  Roll Eyes Grin Grin

Andrew
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2017, 03:52:26 PM »

Get thee behind me tempter!  You are a very bad man.  Are you trying to bankrupt me? Smiley

Seriously?  Looks intriguing.
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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2017, 05:26:12 PM »

While recuperating from back issues I am doing my reading, and am just finishing up my 3rd reading of Sagittarius Rising by Cecil Lewis. He began as a fledgling flying the Maurice Longhorn, then the Shorthorn, with very little flying time graduated to the Fe2b, then the Morane parasol. When he started flying the scouts it was the SE-5, the Camel, but the plane he said was the easiest most flyable well balanced was the Sopwith Triplane. It has been on my bucket list for a long time, and I do get a kick out of flying Thee Old Mans tripe now and then. It is a most stable and well mannered model I have ever flown. But I do want to build my own soon. It's one of those planes that just looks like a model airplane. It looks like the stars are lining up for a Tripehound build!
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2017, 07:31:07 AM »

That's good news, i hope that mine turns out to be well mannered too!

Cheers

Andrew
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 06:23:37 AM »

The prototype is nearly done.  The wing alignment jigs seemed to work of again with three wings.

I just need to detail and fit the gun and cover a few bare balsa areas with tissue, before giving this one a heave.  I forgot to weight it but I think that it is around 40g sans rubber an nose weight.  I think that there is a plenty of wing area to hold it all up.

The cowl areas are paper but I've put lines on the patterns to simulate the formers on the real thing.  By going over the lines on the reverse side with a ball point pen on a soft surface (eg a piece of scrap balsa) they come through pretty well.

Andrew



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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 08:36:03 AM »

It looks the business, yet again! (Better start writing my Christmas list)
By the way, did you know that in the Old Warden shop there's a very nicely made VMC SE5 in a glass case in pride of place beside the mound of VMC kits?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2017, 08:53:51 AM »

Are VMC models available for purchase?
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2017, 09:37:48 AM »

Cheers Pete,

Yes, it's mine, Hadi rang me to ask to see if they could use it, as it is my prototype.  I normally keep the first flying one, but i finished it reasonably well and I didn't ding it during its test flights so I let them use it for trade shows...

Modler If you go the the website, they have them for sale:

https://www.vintagemodelcompany.com/magnificent-flying-machines.html

Other than that I think they are trying to get channels into shops in the states, but I'm not sure what is happening with that...

Andrew
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2017, 09:43:31 AM »

Yes, it's mine
Good thing I said, "very nicely made" then!  Grin
Well done- and long may it stay there.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2017, 01:20:27 PM »

Very nicely done - you've captured the character of the aeroplane, pictures 1 & 2 (of the finished model) are particularly good. Like the tissue colour.

Andy
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 02:29:50 PM »

WILL YOU STOP CREATING ALL THESE MARVELLOUS MODELS TO TEMPT ME WITH!!!!!!!! ITS NOT FAIR!! I CANT KEEP UP WITH MY BUILD LIST NOW WITHOUT YOU ADDING TO IT EVERY FIVE MINUTES!!!! p.s. what about the Gladiator that somebody suggested (or the Bird Dog, Bristol M1D, Avro Avian, Rumpler CIV etc. etc. OOPS!! I seem to have slipped!??
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 04:12:27 PM »

Thank goodness I've never been attracted to tripes  Grin

Looks splendid however!
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 05:01:02 AM »

Cheers guys,

I think the next one might be the Bird dog, I found a decent 3 view.  My only quandary with it is how much to simplify it.  Many models of it (including the Guillows one) flat bottom the fuselage and it has fairly slab sides.  On the basis that high wingers make better novice models flying wise, a simplified construction would also seem in order, so probably middle ground, with slab sides but with a simplified curve below with a couple of stringers to define it.

I threw the tripe on to the bed last light, it is very floaty, there is no additional nose weight ATM but it didn't just pitch up so I believe it won't need a massive amount like the Camel, that very rearward bottom wing must be helping with that.  The forward peg position won't put the weight at the back either so it looks quite promising.

Jon, I reckon' this one would be good for you, more room for one of your CO2 motors and the tank etc... Grin

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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 05:53:27 AM »

Okay, go on then, twist my oxygenated carbon arm!  Wink

Mind you, I think Maestro Mellor might have a secret hankering himself...?
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 02:04:17 PM »

Dunno about Maestro, but you are not wrong!

Dan.

P.S Andrew, a Bristol Scout would be nice if you really don't fancy the Gee Bee.... Tee Hee.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2017, 11:54:20 AM »

Well this flew pretty well much of the board which is pleasing.  As is my usual M.O. I put in a fairly tame and short motor to begin with.  This is a flight caught by Pete F. on my phone, before I added a smidge more nose weight which helped reduce the stall-iness a bit.  I think that it is turning on torque a little too, but I was happy enough to see that it has no nasty tendencies and nothing fundamentally wrong is going on...

Opening out the turn and a more aggressive motor should see a better duration.  I will save that for another day...  Grin

https://youtu.be/5-nII8QkKGM

Andrew
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« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2017, 12:04:58 PM »

Yay!
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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2017, 12:45:37 PM »

That has Presence. I like it a lot.

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« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2017, 01:06:39 PM »

Nothing wrong with that Andrew!  Well done.
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« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2017, 01:23:23 PM »

That looks fab, Andrew! Another one to buy, damn you...!

Cheers,

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« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2017, 01:27:14 PM »

I agree: 'presence' is just the word! Even better in the flesh and it somehow seemed rather bigger than its 18" span. If it's in the shops anytime soon it will leapfrog the Camel in my VMC 'must build one' list.
Good to see you and James today. Here's another vid of it, taken on my iPad. This was its last little whirl of the day...
https://youtu.be/eI0yDiT2Z7U
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« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2017, 02:15:36 PM »

Enjoyed seeing the triplane this morning .... it will make a lovely kit.

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« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2017, 02:29:17 PM »

Thanks guys and for adding the video Pete, it was nice too see you and the Family again, your lad is really sprouting!

It was nice to see you Russ, and it was especially good to see Derek Knight looking so well too...

Andrew
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2017, 02:47:55 PM »

Nice one Andrew!  Hope its a huge success for you. Well done.

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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2017, 08:10:10 AM »

Looks like I'm going to have to break my resolution about not buying any more kits Roll Eyes!!
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