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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2017, 04:53:51 PM »

Making a little progress.  3/32" sticks are so much easier to work with than 1/16, I may never build a small model again.  The fuselage should be pretty straightforward, I need to decide on one piece landing gear attached with magnets or working suspension.  Seems if I used wire only to hinge the struts at the fuselage, wood struts and a working suspension it might be lighter than all wire.  Plus I like the idea of it flying around with the gear hanging down with the suspension extended

Thinking I'll use tongue-in-box wing attachment.  Having the center section permanently attached will simplify the construction a good bit.

Thanks for all the comments and links.  I hope to report more progress soon.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2018, 08:41:01 PM »

Wow, where does the time go?  I have made some progress but haven't posted in a while.  I stalled trying to figure out the wing attachment.  The first try came out way too heavy and I had to stop and ponder things a while.

Here are shots of the fuselage frame going together.  Basic box with formers.  The wing centersection with cockpit will fasten on top, and I'll fair in the rear of the fuselage after that goes on.
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2018, 08:44:41 PM »

Glued the nose blocks on and then cut off everything that didn't look like an airplane. Leaving off the center section and cockpit until the wing is framed with the attachment lined up.
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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2018, 08:48:47 PM »

Built up wing spars, 1/16 web, 1/16 x 1/4 cap on the front, 1/16 x 1/8 on the rear.  The ribs are laminated - top is 3 laminations balsa with basswood in the center.  Bottom rib is one piece of 1/16 balsa and one of basswood.  This method I copied from Bill Noonan, who used it on Fokker Universal jumbo.
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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »

You have picked yourself quite a project. Good going ::thumbs up::
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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2018, 09:30:55 PM »

Thanks, this is the first project of this size and complexity I have attempted, I'm learning as I go.   First picture is of the center section, which includes the top of the cabin.  The wing attach stubs are inserted, what you see will be glued to the wing spars while everything is on the wing jig. Second photo is the wing jig with the centersection and spars set in place.  When it is assembled the bottom ribs will be under the spars.  The jig is three pieces of particleboard with 1/4 inch balsa sheets glued on.  One piece sits under the centersection and two others support the wing panels.  They are set to the proper dihedral angle and washout so I can just pin everything down.  I wanted to make sure the wings were properly aligned and the root tongues were set correctly. I hope the last shot of the jig show how they are propped up to the dihedral angle.
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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2018, 09:35:36 PM »

The wing center section incorporates the top of the cabin.  I had to fit the cabin top onto the center section so it would meet the lower half which is part of the carved cowl.  Hoping to get that profile right.  When it is finally glued down I can finish the windshield frame, and put the stringers on the top rear fuselage.
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2018, 08:33:32 AM »

Very nice work,especially on the carved cowl.

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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2018, 01:34:46 PM »

nice looking fuselage  Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2018, 03:48:45 PM »

Thanks for the encouragement.  I've been making a little progress on the tail surfaces.  The LRM must have experienced some significant trim changes as the fuel was consumed.  The whole stab is hinged on a stub wing and moves up and down for trim.  The elevator moves independently.  I'm going to use the stub as a hinge for a DT and split the stab/elevator - each half will plug into the hinge line on the stub wing.  I'm laminating the outline.

The fin and rudder are separate - I might need to let the rudder flop from side to side if there is too much area for spiral stability.  I'm going with the straight top surface on the wing and hope the thickness taper and high wing will do the trick.
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 10:02:53 PM »

Wow, a year passes like nothing.  It's not like I haven't been building, I just hit a snag on the LRM and had to set it aside. I kept thinking about it while I built a bunch of Flying Aces event planes (Half-wake, Jimmie Allen, Dime scale, Simplified Scale, WWi, WWII, etc.) I finally punted and rebuilt the center section so the landing gear could be fit.  The wings now plug into the center section just outboard of the point where the landing gear attaches.  Should have done that from the start.  I'll have some pictures soon.  The holy grail appears to be a wing loading of .5gms/sq in.  My LRM will have 400 sq inches so a gross weight of 200 grams is the target.  I'm not going to make it.  Uncovered the structure is about 180 grams, and I have sanded or carved off about every bit of extraneous balsa there is.  I figure with covering and some rubber it will get to 250 grams for a wing loading of .625gms/sq in. 
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2019, 08:53:28 PM »

So here is what it looks like.  Like they say, 90% done, 90% left to do.
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2019, 09:08:20 PM »

  Very impressive, neat work.
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« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2019, 10:05:03 PM »

Put the rear peg one upright behind the wing TE.  You can thank me later.
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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2019, 02:04:54 AM »

That looks gorgeous Duncan - can't wait to see it go.
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« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2019, 03:33:43 AM »

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That looks gorgeous...
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« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2019, 05:18:27 AM »

Another example of how impressive the framework of these type of models can look.  Superbly executed.  And the setting of the photographs is ideal.  One compliments the other. 

Might I suggest that we have a “topic” or whatever it is called as a gallery for outstanding photographs/models as it would be nice to browse through on occasions.  Basically though both the photo and the model must have some significant qualities.  Perhaps a member can nominate a picture, briefly explain why and if the picture is then supported by say three other members it goes in the gallery.  No great kudos really but a bit of fun?
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« Reply #42 on: May 05, 2019, 02:04:00 PM »

Hi all - thanks for the kind words.  I realize a few looked at the pictures and thought I was locating the rear motor peg way back near the stab.  Actually, I have not placed the rear peg supports yet.  I believe what some thought was the rear peg is actually the tube that the stabilizer will rotate about for the DT function  The motor peg will be much further forward, very close to where Dean suggested.  Sorry for the confusion, if I had been posting more frequently, I would have mentioned that.  My bad.
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« Reply #43 on: May 05, 2019, 03:00:41 PM »

What they all said.

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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2019, 09:29:32 AM »

Some pictures with a background cloth.    I have finished covering and am working on paint and all the fiddly bits, I hope to take some pictures of that soon.
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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2019, 10:31:02 AM »

Lovely.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2019, 10:45:38 AM »

By chance will it make the show at Muncie?
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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2019, 11:58:15 AM »

I liked your use of the clamps to hold the laminations against the form.  I will try that on my next build!
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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2019, 09:48:58 PM »

Nice work.

I suspect that a model this large can still perform well with a somewhat higher wing loading than what you'd want on a smaller model.
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