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« Reply #125 on: February 24, 2019, 10:16:38 PM »

It certainly is, and a very convincing model too.  Have you considered the glazing yet?   Looks like an ideal candidate for flanged vac-formed windows that plug in from the inside but are flush with the exterior skin
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« Reply #126 on: February 25, 2019, 01:44:58 PM »

Thanks John

Mike - Great idea for the glazing but I don't have access to a vac machine unfortunately. I have had to use a low tech approach

For the screen I made a Balsa former and pulled some heated 10 thou acetate sheet over it. It gives the right sort of curve to profile of the screen, there's a small ripple in it which I didn't notice until I started cutting it out but I'm not going to worry about that.

The rear window was pulled over a suitably sized paint can and the one side window I have done was from an off cut of that . I kept the balsa I cut from the fuselage for the window aperture when skinning it, which proved a useful template for the glazing.

My method which I've used on other models is to butt join the window with the sheeting and align it with masking tape then apply some canopy glue with a brush so it runs into the joint. I apply between the tape holding it in place and when its dry apply the glue where the tape obscured it. This requires accurate cutting of the windows and careful sanding but hopefully better than just sticking it to the inside of the fuselage skin

The last photo shows the RH side window just propped in as I ran out of time but you get the idea.

For the window vents I applied a small circle of masking tape for the inner clear bit on to a scrap of acetate, then sanded the piece to get a matt finish. removing the tape reveals a clear inner circle. I then trimmed this with scissors and a sanding block to get an outer circle and stuck it onto the window with a tiny amount of canopy glue
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« Reply #127 on: February 25, 2019, 02:29:29 PM »

Looking the business now Chris.

You don't need a vac former to do the bulged windows. I did mine by plunge forming. Kept the window cutouts, added some thicker balsa to the form for depth and then plunged as normal. All my clear parts on models are plunge formed, but I need to build a vac former for a 3' canopy I need to do...
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« Reply #128 on: February 25, 2019, 02:35:59 PM »

Thanks Monz

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I need to build a vac former for a 3' canopy I need to do...

Blimey, are you building full size aircraft now ??
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« Reply #129 on: February 25, 2019, 02:38:11 PM »

Thanks Monz

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I need to build a vac former for a 3' canopy I need to do...

Blimey, are you building full size aircraft now ??

hahhaha, no, a quarter scale slope jet. Started it years ago and must get it finished.
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« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2019, 02:33:55 PM »

Well thats most of the glazing stuck down. 

 I just need to add a pilot before he gets sealed in when I add the left side window.  Whats the betting he breaks free on the first test glide  Cheesy.

There's some edging for screen to add too but nearly there
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« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2019, 05:38:15 PM »

Nice one Chris. My pilots also suffer the same reluctance to stay put. I use the seat belts as a restraint and it works for all but the most extreme arrivals. I think this will be a very competitive model and it can be trimmed for a short take off with a STOL like climb and not be peanalised. Not sure if it would be a bonus if you towed a glider if it could be trimmed to follow but sure would challenge the judges.
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« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2019, 06:30:08 PM »

I've made a start on the lettering, Chris ...  the Arial part works well, but some of the stencil parts are very fine with my version of the font. I think I will beef it up a little.
I found the solartrim, but it doesn't cut as well as the vinyl.
I'll report back as I progress further!
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« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2019, 03:21:02 AM »

Thanks Russ. It hadn't occurred to me that some parts would be so fine, beefing it up sounds good
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« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2019, 12:35:27 PM »

I had a go at a pilot today.. Ok so I cheated and bought a 3d printed head from Tony Bennet's Finishing Touches site

 https://finishingtouches974021655.wordpress.com/?fbclid=IwAR15JKXfEgyGtn9I6EmTRoiJKkUwfIAv9DvVKV3N9-Cq-ghukct8vVY7Rfs

The rest is carved from blue foam using Richard Crossley's technique to a lesser effect. I'll have another go at him later once his arms have stuck.

Looks like he'll do the job though. What do you stick a pilot foam in with to lessen the chance of him breaking free ?  - Copydex or some sort of rubbery glue ?


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« Reply #135 on: February 28, 2019, 12:41:14 PM »

A dowel in his posterior and a drop of epoxy should do it
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« Reply #136 on: March 01, 2019, 12:55:10 AM »

Hmm! painful.

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« Reply #137 on: March 01, 2019, 04:47:07 AM »

Nahh, it's only a small dowel....
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« Reply #138 on: March 01, 2019, 01:23:32 PM »

I spent the day admiring and enthusing at the aircraft of the RAF Museum in Hendon. On the subject of pilots I like the way they have done their dummy pilots in the WW1 aircraft. They have added dummies to some of their aircraft but they have painted them all a flat grey colour, which works well for me. It's sort of saying were are not trying to convince you this is a 'real' pilot but it helps you gauge the scale  and how it may have been for the pilots that did fly them, which is similar to their use in FF Scale models?

Maybe I should do that with the Wilga Pilot. The inside of the cockpit is black anyway and I'm not sure painting the pilot black too would work either - it would look like its be flown by some supernatural shadow !!!. Maybe grey would work or maybe just very muted colours not sure  ?

I wonder if these larger pilots have a large broom handle in posterior and drop of epoxy to hold them in ?


I popped next door to Hannants on the way out and bought the basis for a possible future FF Scale project  Wink

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« Reply #139 on: March 01, 2019, 02:33:11 PM »

Hmm! painful.

John

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« Reply #140 on: March 02, 2019, 12:21:46 AM »

Oh good grief Charlie Brown Cheesy Cheesy

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« Reply #141 on: March 02, 2019, 02:29:15 AM »

I'm so late to this thread, I seem to have arrived at the 'posterior' end...  Shocked
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« Reply #142 on: March 02, 2019, 01:24:37 PM »

The Wilga pilot has grown some legs and I've added a seat back as this can be seen when viewed from the side. Buying the 3d printed head has made life a lot easier and helped disguise my dodgy carving skills. He'll be seated on blue foam block with the inevitable dowel up the posterior to help locate him.

The rear view at the moment looks a bit like he's seated on the loo... actually as he has my trimming to endure thats probably fortunate. I'll paint that bit black so hopefully know one will notice
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« Reply #143 on: March 03, 2019, 01:23:42 PM »

Ok so I decided to go for a more realistically painted pilot rather than the flat grey as used by the RAF Museum partly after re starting work on the Hawker Tomtit and looking at the Dave Banks pilot I'm fitting to that model and how well it sets the model off when its painted in a natural manner

I gave the blue foam a coat of Ezy-Kote and then painted him with Acrylic paints.I just went for muted colours to keep him low key. 

He's epoxied in with the inevitable posterior shaft type assistance which will hopefully keep him seated despite my attempts to trim the model so I will now seal him in by adding the left hand window.

The result is the sort of thing I was after...there's a pilot there but he doesn't draw the eye, he just blends in
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« Reply #144 on: March 03, 2019, 01:29:04 PM »

E's a skinhead!  Shocked

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« Reply #145 on: March 03, 2019, 01:47:36 PM »

Rude ...!  Grin
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« Reply #146 on: March 03, 2019, 06:08:30 PM »

Not bad - The Wilga does look better with Mr Skinhead in the pilot's seat. Smiley

John
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« Reply #147 on: March 04, 2019, 02:24:50 AM »

Very nice pilot, and I’m not going to be rude about him.

(I know better than to needlessly insult Lord Voldemort!  Shocked)
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« Reply #148 on: March 04, 2019, 03:14:36 AM »

I admire anyone who makes their own pilot - I haven't a clue and my few feeble attempts were laughable. I think Kryten looks great and fits the model perfectly.
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« Reply #149 on: March 04, 2019, 04:01:19 AM »

Fly Hard
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