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« Reply #75 on: March 01, 2019, 12:38:36 PM »

OSPREY  20"   SPORTS GLIDER   Vintage Model Company laser cut kit

Pic #1     1521     The thick black outline is now inked on, and now for the fun part - trying to peel off that low tack green masking tape without ripping the tissue ...

Pic #2     1522     One guy has to hold the tape down close to where the other guy is carefully peeling it off -   blue paper and color is coming off of the tissue with the tape as it peels off -  got to watch that ...   Huh

Pic #3     1523     One wing finished.  A few mistakes   Tongue  , but not tooooo bad ...  Three more to go - only the fine outllines are done on these and no color ...   Undecided

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« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2019, 12:59:27 PM »

Can ya get it scanned to file?  That artwork is too nice to be a one shot deal. A saved digital version could enable reprints or scaling for a different sized model down the road, as they say...
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« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2019, 01:16:33 PM »

Hi Indoorflyer.  I am sorry, but my printer is dead.   Undecided    I will have to do some thinking about how to see if I can get them scanned ...  How about a dead on pic?

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« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2019, 01:22:55 PM »

That should work. Maybe lay a scale in the view for reference. Could also take the artwork on backing sheets to a copy shop and scan/save to a thumbdrive or have it emailed to you.
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« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2019, 03:04:14 PM »

Some similar artwork, though obviously it wouldn't fit on an Osprey:
https://www.facflyer.com/BogusBird.htm
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« Reply #80 on: March 01, 2019, 03:57:29 PM »

Hi Lincoln.  Thanks for the link -  that scary eagle head is pretty scary, what with the teeth inside the beak.   Shocked   Those are pretty good color templates.

Hi Indoorflyer.   Here is three pics of these 20" Osprey glider feathered templates.   Let me know if they are OK to use.   I always drew the left half first, folded it over in the middle centerline, and then traced it on the window, to get the exact same shape of the feathers for the opposite right side.  The rib locations are all marked.  Any questions, please ask away ...

Pic #1     1525     The three different stab outlines
Pic #2     1528     Stabilizer is colored
Pic #3     1530     Two thin ink Wing templates

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« Reply #81 on: March 01, 2019, 11:39:33 PM »

OSPREY  20"   SPORTS GLIDER   Vintage Model Company laser cut kit

Pic #1     1531     "The backing blotter sheet" is taped flat.  The tissue with inked the on pattern is taped flat on top of this.   First of three wings to do.

Pic #2     1532     Mandrake finishes inking on the thick black outline.

Pic #3     1533     M and B color in the pattern -  it looks OK.

Pic #4     1534     More Picasso abstract art.

Pic #5     1537     Now one more wing to go - but I do have two more wing outlines -  one is for a spare if the ink lasts.     Almost DONE .    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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« Reply #82 on: March 03, 2019, 02:38:18 PM »

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TISSUE SHRINK AND SEAL BENCH TEST

Pic #1     1539     Test tissue is cut and lined and colored up.

Pic #2     1540     Test piece is now white glued to the little balsa frame.

Pic #3     1541     Spray misted and shrunk with  70%  Rubbing Alcohol.

Pic #4     1545     Dried from the alcohol mist spray.

Pic #5     1547     Sprayed with Krylon Clear Gloss rattle can -  two light coats -  to seal the tissue.

Pic #6     1549     All dry.

     There does not appear to be any running  of the paint colors or the black line inking.   Maybe that "ink blotter" backing sheet, really sponged up, and soaked up, all of the excess marker paint color.   Maybe I should have tried a much larger test piece of tissue ?   Huh

Onwards ...

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« Reply #83 on: March 04, 2019, 09:33:54 AM »

OSPREY  20"   SPORTS GLIDER   Vintage Model Company laser cut kit

    Well, we are in a deep freeze here again, so time for more research into gliders and canopies and pilots and control panels.
     It is interesting how the pilots'  legs are crammed into the nose of the cockpits of modern gliders.
     I also found some really good Glider Pilots (although too large for a  1:20  scale glider), but these pilots -  "Roger's Pilots"  -  have great color schemes, and great realism.   Here at  http://rogers-pilots.co.uk/pilots.html

Pic #1     Cold Jet Stream (Polar Vortex) March 2 2019
Pic #2     Cold Jet Stream - temps are in Celsius --  Looks like some one is nefariously bouncing microwaves off of the Ionosphere and forcing the jetstream southwards ...
Pic #3     Glider Cockpit
Pic #4     Glider Cockpit even more crowded
Pic #5     Glider Controls 2
Pic #6     6639     6" tall,  1:12 scale, Williams Bros Pilot bust head and shoulders  - a previous attempt ...

Watch how far this little glider flies https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Glider+Flying&&view=detail&mid=044197C2A6AA5BD9C79F044197C2A6AA5BD9C79F&&FORM=VRDGAR

I am considering the possibilities  ...

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« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2019, 09:07:00 PM »

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     More bitter cold, so more playing around.  I ran out of blue and orange marker, so I dug out my old smaller markers looking for a match.

     Here is four pilot views - very precise and sharp features and soooo light.  We traced out 3 sketches of a pilot, from over the computer screen, to start finalizing a color scheme on.   

Pic #1     1554
Pic #2     1555
Pic #3     1556
Pic #4     1564
Pic #5     1571

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« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2019, 09:11:22 PM »

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     I scribbled some sketches, to see if they could fit on an instrument panel,  of four primitive instruments  -  Airspeed Indicator, Altimeter, Mechanical Variometer (Rate of Climb and Descent), and a Magnetic Compass.

Pic #1     Airspeed Indicator
Pic #2     Altimeter
Pic #3     Mechanical Variometer (Rate of Climb and Descent)
Pic #4     Magnetic Compass 2
Pic #5     Glider Instrument panel 2
pic #6     1572     Closeup of poor instrument sketches with the fine black marker.

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« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2019, 02:06:40 AM »

   Hi Richard
                  Great work you're doing here, You probably have it sorted by now but I have posted a photo of an Instrument Panel from a  Grunau Baby IIb, while the instruments are German I'm sure it would suit your model. While the panel is a reproduction the instruments are original. Hope it is of some use. 

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« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2019, 04:40:24 PM »

     Hi Dave.  Thanks for the encouragement and that good pic.   Smiley   I think I will try drawing the instruments (now that I sort of have the hang of it ),  on that pic you posted of the early instrument panel of a Granau glider.   Would there also be a Magnetic Compass somewhere else in the cockpit of the Granau?
     Here is a two page (two pics),  complete (?),   list of sailplanes/gliders by country from 1920 to 1945.   This list is really handy for a guy like me, just learning about Vintage gliders and sailplanes.

Pic #1     Sailplane List  Page one
Pic #2     Sailplane List  Page two
Pic #3     Minimoa Instrument Panel - but I cannot make out the instruments ...
Pic #4     DISCUS 2 Instrument Panel
Pic #5     Glider Pilot Edward
Pic #6     Glider Pilot Howard 2

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« Reply #88 on: March 07, 2019, 04:57:23 PM »

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     Well, the hardest, and most time consuming part, is finally done.   Tongue    I found some old orange and blue markers and finally finished up the fifth wing, cleared the building board, and laid out the tissue to see what it looks like.

Pic #1     1573     On this last wing, the orange is too bright.   Undecided

Pic #2     1574     Pic of all of the wrinkled up,  finished tissue.

Pic #3      1575     Framework is laid over the tissue.

Pic #4     1579     A bit of orange tissue is added to the fuse front, and the nose block.   Pilot for comparison also.

Pic #5     1581     Framework is removed, and now it is starting to look like a color scheme coming together ...  looks more like a Flying Fish than a Sea Gull ...   Cheesy

Pic #6      Flying Fish
    
Now to the pilot painting and Instrument Panel and gages.

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« Reply #89 on: March 12, 2019, 12:41:49 AM »

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GLIDER PILOT PAINTING  1/20  scale

     Today was a nice liesurely day spent trying to get the pilot color scheme just right,  and painted  out ahead of time, before even starting on that nicely detailed, little Dave Banks Pilot bust/figure.   Figuring out the color scheme is the hard part -  the painting is then the easy part.  I must get this done before I glue the fuselage together, so I can figure out the pilot seat.

Pic #1     1616     Started to figure out the Pilot colors, so that he matches the glider color scheme.

Pic #2     1617     Close up of the list of colors to choose from, and labelling of the diagram first.

pic #3     1619     Full bench view,   and what a glider pilot looks like on the screen monitor.

Pic #4     1620    The middle pilot has the latest color scheme.

Pic #5     1621     Closeup of the middle Pilot color.  I still have to get the right amount of blue color into the seat belt harness buckle, to make it look more metallic,  or just leave it light gray.  Also the bronze of the shoulder patches is the wrong color ...

Pic #6     GLIDER  1908  TO  1945   I would like to model this one some day.  I don't know enough about the gliders yet, to properly ID this one.   Anyone ?

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« Reply #90 on: March 12, 2019, 10:45:36 PM »

Richard nice work. Still following. Your mystery glider:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotter_Nemere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVbbGu-XzIo

3-View:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1992887-Rotter-Nemere#post26047119

Build log:

http://www.retroplane.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4645
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« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2019, 12:31:43 AM »

     Helloooo ... vtdiy !   Thanks so much for those great handy links - they are perfect   Cheesy  - really saves a lot of time browsing, and thanks for the nice comment.   Are you getting any flying time indoors?   Flying any new models?
      Great to hear from you, and I hope you post in some more interesting topics.
PS  - you really know your planes!    The Hungarian "NEMERE" Glider.

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GLIDER PILOT PAINTING  1/20  scale

    The Pilot is all painted up.   I do need to get some fine brushes.  There is such fine detail - realistic creases and folds in the clothing -  in this foam Pilot, you can really see it coming to life as soon as you start painting it.   And a good old fashioned wave of the hair parted on the side of that youth pilot.   Wait a minute -  that is how all the kids do it now - clean cut, tapered cuts,  etc ...

Pic #1     1630     He looks like the guy in the middle.
Pic #2     1623     Closeup.
Pic #3     1626     Outside front.
Pic #4     1628     Outside rear.
Pic #5     1633     The weight of the painted pilot is  0.70   grams.   The latest mock up gages are in blue.
Pic #6     CONDOR

     It is now time to work on the mag compass mock up and finish off the other gages and the instrument panel.    These are tough to detail by hand when the gages are that small.   An 'out of focus',  little smudge of pencil lead, will have to do for a small number.

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[Wait a minute -  that is how all the kids do it now - clean cut, tapered cuts,  etc ...


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« Reply #94 on: March 13, 2019, 08:11:29 PM »

Great info vt. Richard your pilot is getting a bit heavy at 0.7g Smiley You may have to shave off his hair - make him a skin head Cheesy

Impressive detail.

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« Reply #95 on: March 14, 2019, 11:05:23 PM »

Richard, I'm embarrassed to say what I've been flying indoors -- basically a $25 Ebay RTF. Well also, a more interesting balsa and (mylar?) R/C double size version of a Delta Dart built by a friend. He calls it the "Servonaught" because it uses old Airhogs 27Mhz guts and motors to steer with. Not just the usual differential twin thrust, but also the motors are mounted on a pivoting flybar, and that has tiny lines going back to the rudder. So you get both differential thrust AND rudder. I think the whole thing weighs about 20 grams, not sure. He's a dyed in the wool FF rubber guy, so I'm his ghost pilot for very occasional R/C excursions.

I've been flying more outdoors -- built a Horten-ish flat prop in slot flying wing, designed by GPW. It originally had fins, but I flew it that way for awhile, and then tried what I call a "stepped elevon" and snipped off the fins. It still flies fine without them, and no actual washout.

I also built a slightly enlarged R/C version of a Scientific C/L Thunderbird. That's been maidened, but is not in good trim yet.

Anyway, back to your Osprey! Pilot looks very blonde. Well, more power to him, he'll be gray some day like the rest of us!
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« Reply #96 on: August 20, 2019, 04:53:17 PM »

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     Hi vtdiy.   I miss your enthusiasm here on HPA.   Pop back in any time!    Smiley
    Well, the crew is finally back working on the Osprey,  after a lot of flying this Spring and Summer.
       "Bones" has been guarding the Sarcophagus,  where the Osprey has been awaiting rebirth in Valhalla.    There is a thick pile of dust to be cleaned off (vacuumed off ?) of the parts board,  but I think I will now part with tradition, like a fellow modeller did,  and cover the wings first before finishing the fuse,  just to keep the interest up.    At least Mandrake and Bloodroot took the time to carefully pack away the tissue coverings, in some good makeshift file folder cardboard.
     It was also great to find out that they had already final-sanded the wings and tail plane.

Pic #1     2813     Dusty Board of parts.
Pic #2     2815     Files full of inked up tissue.
Pic #3     2817     Mandrake and Bloodroot set up the wing dihedral blocks.
Pic #4     2818     Double white glued, all pinned up and blocked up, ready to dry overnight.
Pic #5     2819     Tailfeather tissue for the Stabilizer.
Pic #6     2820     M and B glued a small thinned bead of white glue over all the crosspieces and outline frames, flipped it over, and set it on top of the tissue, and pinned it all down with small balsa planks.   Like the carpenters say ...  "You can never have too many clamps".

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« Reply #97 on: August 20, 2019, 08:21:53 PM »

It's good to see you back on the Osprey Richard. Mandrake and Bloodroot are back from their Summer break  Smiley

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« Reply #98 on: August 20, 2019, 08:35:04 PM »

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Hi John.    Smiley   Thanks for the nudge.    Shocked    It feels good to clear the board and be building again.   More progress.

2824      Here is the underside.   The black line extensions really helped to line it up straight.

2825      This is the flat side of the tissue all glued up.  I had lightly sanded all of the laser burns down to clean white balsa.

2826     I cut out the blue sky portion,  and then I put all these little slices into the tissue right up to the balsa.

2827     Then I cut the blue back really short to the frame outline, but just leaving enough to go around the edge of the stab tail outline.

2829     Then it was easy to lay a smooth layer of thinned white glue to the frame edges, smooth the tissue over with a moist fingertip, and then brace it all up to dry.

2831     Here it  is all dry and still nice and flat.    Ready for the other side,   and we should see how it should all look.   I will be working on it tonight ...  now I am really curious.

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« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2019, 11:05:17 AM »

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     A couple of tiny gluing touchups were done on the stab tissue, and it is now done, except spray misting and sealing.

Pic #1     2833   Now the other side of tissue design is glued on, as straight as possible, to line up with the stab outline on the other side.   I inked on a whole bunch of reference lines for the ribs and frame.   Well, we only got it pretty close ....

Pic #2     2834     The back side tissue is on.

Pic #3     2835     Under the lamplight at different angles to the light.  This was the look I was hoping for, with the ribs slightly showing through.

Pic #4     2836     Nice blue at this angle to the light.

Pic #5     2837     Completely black at this angle to the light.

Pic #6     2838     The frame even looks pretty black outside too.

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