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« on: July 25, 2019, 09:01:36 AM »

Could someone point me in the direction of rules for the UK class, classic A1? Please...
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2019, 09:25:16 AM »

An A1 design between Jan 51 and Jan61
No min weight
Mods allowed as per BMFA classic glider rules
50m line  or 75 if flown in Classic glider

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2019, 10:47:35 AM »

Stu Darmon doesn't post on here but he and I have often discussed his thoughts behind classic A1 at the upcoming Buckminster event. Exploiting the strange fact that there's no lower limit for A1/F1h wing area Stu's idea is that any pre January 1961 glider which is under 18dm sq irrespective of weight is eligible. The hope being that lots of flyers will have, or could build an eligible model. (Step forth Mercury Gnome!)
As Bill says, if you want it to be BMFA legal then it needs to meet the 1950s dates, mods as per the BMFA rules handbook and flown as a "classic glider" on a 75m line.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2019, 01:03:12 PM »

I have a Mercury Swan kit, complete, unstarted, just waiting to be built.  I'll be long dead before I get round to it, so...………….
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2019, 03:39:52 PM »

The Mercury Swan is a good practical glider, a typical Jim Baguley design (except a bit awkward to fit an autorudder), but it is too big for Classic A1. However, it is fine for BMFA Classic Glider.

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2019, 04:04:31 AM »

Thanks all,
When I came over from Australia in May I missed the April issue of both AM and RCM&E. (Aus is two months behind, unless you subscribe). I'll have to get a back issue.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2019, 05:31:44 AM »

Gary, pm your email address and I'll send scans.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2019, 07:47:45 AM »

I like the idea of a mercury gnome but was it ever advertised as an A1? I think I've seen this argument before but that was about models which fit the criteria but weren't actually the class in question. Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to build one!
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2019, 09:42:33 AM »

The specification for an F1h (formerly an A1) is simply a towline launched glider which is less than 18dm squared in area and having a minimum weight of 220g. "Classic" in the broader terms of this very informal class means  published/kitted before 1st January 1961. So, whatever it describes itself as, a Mercury Gnome is most definitely a classic A1. Since it would fly like a brick at 220g the class has no weight limit. The idea was to get models like Gnomes out of the loft and on the flying field so build one and come and join in... long way from Aus though...
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2019, 12:03:13 PM »

... not in Aussie any more mate, living on a boat in Lancashire nowadays! (I'll have to change me flag to a jolly roger!)
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2019, 12:05:50 PM »

I think that Gary is currently in the UK for the next year or so, I remember him telling telling me ( and building vintage coupes as well if I recall  Cheesy )

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2019, 12:07:23 PM »

He beat me to it !!!  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2019, 01:34:22 PM »

...rather more than a year, this is us now, sold up in Australia and bought a narrowboat to live on. Vintage coupes didn't survive the cull I'm afraid but more on the way once I've finished my 'u-beaut' scale model.
Being on a boat means space for storage is at a premium, hence the interest in mini class models.
See you out there...
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2019, 03:12:13 PM »

Well no excuse then, build a Gnome and a vintage coupe and have twice the fun. I'm sure I once heard that one of the 60s/70s Soviet flyers was a submariner and built on a board fixed vertically to the cabin wall. Maybe whoever told me the tail saw me coming! Still it's one way when space is tight.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2019, 09:49:09 AM »

Mercury gnome almost finished alongside new build...J. Morrisset's coupe from 1949.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2019, 10:08:28 AM »

A nice pair of models, Gary.
I like the colour scheme on the Gnome.
I last built a Gnome at about 14 yo. Would love to build another.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2019, 11:01:01 AM »

That Gnome colour scheme is very 'Mike Fantham' I think.

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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2019, 05:30:18 PM »

Yep! Shamelessly nicked it!
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