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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2019, 04:47:51 AM »

You are the first to mention speed Robertson ... any more on speed ?

Did he live in Skokie ?
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2019, 04:49:31 AM »

It could be just Skelly Oil Company?
Sk. O.C. ... a follower would be Skokie? ... like a groupie?!

Edit: on reflection, I think the Oklahoma connection that Pete mentions is the most probable?
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2019, 05:03:46 AM »

To add .... again!
I have always incorrectly visualised the well used line "Okie from Muskogee" as "Okie from the Skokie" .... perhaps I am not alone in this ... or it is just the "Skogee" bit used?
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2019, 08:00:37 AM »

Free Flight Quarterly ran a four part series of articles on the Jimmie Allen radio program and the 20 (+ or – a few depending on who you ask) Jimmie Allen model airplane kits produce between 1933 and 1936. See issues #51 Apr 2014, #52 Jul 2014, #53 Oct 2014, and #57 Oct 2015. Unfortunately, the source of the name SKOKIE is not addressed.

Speed Robertson was a fictional character in the radio program and any model kit design credit was just part of the advertising promotion. The kits were designed and produced by several companies with most being manufactured by the Country Club Aero Supply Company. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2019, 08:55:41 AM »

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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2019, 08:57:03 AM »

OK fellas you asked for it... Your choice depending how your model conducts itself at the flying field

1. A small suburb in Il. located just north of Chicago. Part of Cook county.
2. Also the name of a 1981 movie about KKK trying to march though the area’s heavily Jewish-holocaust-survivor populated area of the same namesake
3. briefly mentioned in the 1995 movie "The Usual Suspects"
4. location for filming parts of many John Hughes films.
"Hey, where are you from?"
"Skokie, IL."
"That figures"

OR

A suburb of Chicago located just to the west of Evanston and North of Lincolnwood. It is a very uninteresting place with nothing to do. The two high schools there are pretty boring. The streets are raggidy as hell. The only two types of girls to choose from is a druggie or a preppy cheerleader. The only good thing about Skokie is the close location to Chicago.
"Damn, Skokie is boring. At least Chicago is not far"

OR

Meaning trashy, malmannered, sleezy, easy, or slutty.

Someone that is oblivious to the fact that they are trashy or malmannered.
"That girl is a Skokie, she never realizes what she does."

OR

a few dozen other ones that Ratz would immediately pluck out of this forum.... some of the planes in my stable go with the last example.
"Gee this Spitfire sure is a Skokie, after all the loving care I put into her make-up, she goes out and plants asparagus"

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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2019, 09:09:51 AM »

Excellent work Crabby

.. I’m hoping the later meanings are not needed for this build
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 09:45:12 AM »

Skokie also mentioned in the classic comedy film The Blues Brothers, again as the suburb of Chicago.  Chicago area was the center of the American model industry being the home of Comet, Midwest, Goldberg, Monogram, DuBro, Maircraft, Hawk, and others.  I believe the Lindberg company was actually located in Skokie.  Interestingly, the suburb did not take the name Skokie until 1940. several years after the model was designed and marketed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skokie,_Illinois
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 10:11:27 AM »

Thanks Crabby .... I'll stop my guessing now! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 04:54:32 PM »

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Chicago area was the center of the American model industry being the home of Comet, Midwest, Goldberg, Monogram, DuBro, Maircraft, Hawk, and others.  I believe the Lindberg company was actually located in Skokie.  Interestingly, the suburb did not take the name Skokie until 1940. several years after the model was designed and marketed.

Thanks mark it seems the origins of Skokie name for this model remains an enigma. Pete's guess of a bastardisation of the terms of Skelly Oil and Oklahoma as a nickname sounds the most likely at the moment
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« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2019, 04:07:36 PM »

A bit more on the Skokie

The centre section is curious as it sits on top of the fuselage along the true chord line rather than flat on the bottom of the wing, this means the wing ribs sit below the fuselage at the front by a small amount and locate the wing on the fuselage. I worry it could cause damage rather than knocking off cleanly but as it locates the wing very well and I'm going to fit a wing DT ( I've now decided) it could actually be a great idea.

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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2019, 01:39:38 PM »

I've got quite into building a laser cut kit, it's my first one and very enjoyable it is too. Compared to building from a plan and cutting it all out by hand it's also very fast !!!  It's starting to look like an aeroplane already  Grin

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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2019, 01:06:31 PM »

A bit more work on the Skokie. Neat structure on the fin and tail gives a symmetrical section using 1/16" sq balsa
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2019, 03:11:43 PM »

Ok one set of bare bones for the Skokie taped together.

The parts need sanding to shape and the nose block needs adding, undercarriage attaching etc

It's the BMFA Nationals this weekend so not a lot will happen with it for a while but it does give me a chance to by a D/T and stock up on materials.

Any ideas on suitable rubber while I have my moth ridden wallet out at the weekend? 3/16" ?
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2019, 03:14:35 PM »

but it does give me a chance to by a D/T and stock up on materials
Not sure you'll find anything useful to buy there, other than at Balsa Cabin! What kind of DT?
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2019, 03:16:41 PM »

Just making a list

Balsa Cabin
SAMS for rubber etc


DT would be a viscous one from SAMS ?

EDIT - OK SAMS don't list the DT I'm after... Undecided
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2019, 04:14:22 PM »

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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2019, 05:05:13 PM »

Thanks Bill that would be very helpful.
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« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2019, 01:00:05 PM »

So after the hiatus of Skokie action due to the Nats I thought I'd try and finish it for Old Warden Huh in a few weeks time ...or in my modelling time a couple of weekend afternoons

I've made some mods along the way. The tail is fitted using a 1mm carbon rod which locates through a gusset in the fuselage. I will cover the tail section of the fuselage before fitting the tail which will be covered on the model.

The undercarriage has had some 1/4" x 3/32" added to give these bits a bit of extra strength.

The fin is attached as per the plan but with a 1mm carbon fin post with Ali tube set into the rudder. The relevant bits where whipped to the fuselage and fin and glued with Superphatic

The wing centre section has had some webbing between the spars as this is the point I will attach a dowel to hold a central rubber band, the rear of which will be held on conventional dowel running across the fuselage. This will form a triangluar band which will pull the wing back for D/T.  The front of wing will be held in position by a line attached to a Tomy timer located on the side of the fuselage so some 1/4"x 3/32"  has gone in here to to provide a mounting point

I've added some fairings to the undercarriage wires and I couldn't resist adding the dashboard from the plan - very cute.  I think I'm ready to start covering  Grin

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« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2019, 01:24:32 PM »

The reinforcements you've added, particularly to the stab mount and around the undercarriage are great improvements. Those were two weakest points in my Skokie after I built it per the original plans. Looking great overall!
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« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2019, 05:01:17 AM »

Chris,
         That looks really nice and will I am sure give a more robust model. It also gives me a few pointers for any repairs needed in the future. I look forward to seeing the flying photos.
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« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2019, 05:13:31 AM »

This looks great, Chris. Hope to see it and n action at OW.
(Would be a good one for the Rubber Bowden comp.)
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« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2019, 02:02:11 PM »

Thanks for the kind comments

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(Would be a good one for the Rubber Bowden comp.)

Ok that sounds like a plan...I'd better get covering Grin
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« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2019, 04:00:21 PM »

Tail has now been attached. I covered the rear fuselage sides first to make life easy. A small 1/8" x 1/32" strip was added to the bottom of the tailplane mount to stick the covering to so the 3/32" strip the tail is glued to can be left uncovered so it bonds properly. The carbon rod was then bound to the other half of the tail and glued with Superphatic

The D/T bits have been fitted with a strip on the TE to locate the wing and some conventional mounting dowels at the rear of cabin to mount the wing bands on with a single dowel mounted on the wing to hold the front of the wing band.

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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2019, 01:21:18 PM »

I spent the afternoon filling the workshop with dope fumes  Grin. Why does covering make me feel so happy Huh 

Covering is Esaki tissue, luckily I have a stash squirrelled away. It's stuck on with tissue paste and water shrunk, it's then given a couple of coats of 30/70 Non shrinking dope and cellulose thinners.

Side windows on the fuselage are a covering of Mylar stuck on with Balsaloc and heat shrunk . For the nose bearing I added a KP Aero adjustable one. I have balsa prop blank but I won't have time to carve it properly by next weekend so I'll go with the supplied plastic prop for now.

I've added 3/32" washout to the wings
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