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« on: February 14, 2020, 12:04:14 PM »

What topics do you think should be in a P30 Primer pictorial document? Basic idea is that a novice to free flight could read and build along with the P30 Primer and a kit and end up with a nice flying, good looking P30.

Basic Chapter Layout

1. Kit unboxing/unbagging

2. Glue basics

3. Building Board Options

4. Building Techniques

5. Covering Options (tissue, Mylar, adhesives and sealing)

6. DT Modifications

7. Timer Options

8. Rubber Basics (selection, handling, winding, torque meter)

9. Propeller options

10. Basic flight trimming

11. Thermal Picking

12. Basic contest flying

13. Second Plane Options (What Now?)

What else?
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 01:46:22 PM »

I think I would try to find a way to show as few options as possible for a document aimed at a beginner.  Try to show the most commonly chosen options as the way but perhaps express in the text that "there may be other ways but this is the way we are showing you here."  Otherwise they may get lost in completing the task because they may not be motivated enough to try to figure out which option is best for them.  Also the final document will end up being simpler.

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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 01:57:26 PM »

Marlin, I agree. The planned format will be a basic section with my favorite way to do it. Options will be covered in an addendum for each topic. One will be able to build a nice flying good looking P30 with just the basic chapters.
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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 03:54:30 PM »

14. Finding designs that aren't kits.

15. How to select feasible scratch building designs, and making up the parts as if they came with a kit.

16. Building with those parts from the plans.

There are a lot of orphan plans out there, with no kits attached.

Gotta bring them in sometime. After a successful kit build (or a few) might be an option the beginner would be interested in.

Knowing what's involved in scratch building helps the builder decide if and/or when it's time for that.

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2020, 01:10:13 PM »

As a relative newbie the Primer I think it sounds great.
My comment is probably nit picking, or lack of knowledge, I think the topic of the building board should be second, after choosing a plane. Without the board you are not going to do anything, except wait for a board. You can gather tools, building material, discuss different glues and nothing gets done until you have that board.
A possible topic I didn’t see was “accessories. Winders, stooges, meters and such.
Looking forward to Primer!
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2020, 01:53:15 PM »

Thanks for the feedback Greg!  Great list of topics for a volume 2 I think. We will see how far this gets Cool
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2020, 01:58:27 PM »

Great suggestion Lee and I agree.  I'm adjusting the outline with the feedback I've received here and on FB.  The plan is to cover accessories as they come up in the build and trim process. Once I'm finished I plan to put together a full list of everything I used and options so that one can see what's up early on. There is a lot and I don't want anyone to see a long list and be put off by it right up front.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2020, 09:20:58 PM »

I sorta disagree with Greg.  You really should start from kits, especially short kits.

Many lack the skill to cut out parts.  There are some short kits out there that aren't hard to build, and the laser cut parts save much time and frustration.

An example is Lee Campbell's Souper 30.  I think Retro RC or someone has the kit still.  If I recall, it has a flat bottom airfoil which is much easier to build, and cover for a beginner.  Get something in the air successfully and quickly so they won't be turned off by tedium.

Agree with the building board priority.
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