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« Reply #2850 on: August 25, 2020, 02:27:12 AM »

No big deal! just as expected  Grin
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« Reply #2851 on: August 25, 2020, 05:33:17 AM »

Thanks! I have discovered that extra engine detail - even of dubious distinction - can sure help get the CG forward! Which = stability.
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« Reply #2852 on: October 17, 2020, 08:58:52 AM »

Today was the first day our local group was allowed back indoors - so the first opportunity for the Pilatus Porter floatplane to play therein!  Smiley

Outside I was getting fabby flights on 0.125 rubber up to 45 secs, but even though I switched to 0.109 for indoors this still resulted in rafter-smacking action!   Shocked

So I made up a modest loop of 0.093 and kept the yaw fairly tight (to prevent any further smackery against either rafter or wall) and finally got this very nice 25 second flight from hand-launch (courtesy of Andy Blackburn):

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hscrYGuXRNJjVic78

Next move is to make up a dolly for proper "ROW" for when hopefully we'll be allowed back in next month!

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« Reply #2853 on: October 17, 2020, 10:03:54 AM »

And, as is fast becoming traditional for Lurker Industries builds, I have to report UC woes.  If you build a C. 5 for indoors you may wish to consider the UC more robust.  Had to abandon glide testing. Note to self this one requires a slow launch and a good deal more nose weight than is currently installed.

Should be fairly straight-forward to sort out.
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« Reply #2854 on: October 17, 2020, 12:33:10 PM »

Good to hear of Mooney action again. Nice floatplane flight, Jon. Lurker, those pioneer undercarriages are a menace. On the full size aircraft I think they often broke too. Very effective life-saving crumple zones I dare say. I’m sure your carpentry crew will soon have the Chiribiri ready to go again though. It is a very pretty little thing.

As far as my own Mooneys go, I haven’t tried the Demoiselle yet. I think I’ll probably wait for an indoor session. I’m taking the DHC Beaver to Buckminster tomorrow though, hoping to get in some more good flights.
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« Reply #2855 on: October 17, 2020, 01:07:11 PM »

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... those pioneer undercarriages are a menace.
Aye.  I was more than half expecting to have troubles with it as it was a fight to get a reasonable join between the bamboo and the basswood.  As for repairs; at the moment I'm thinking of either v. thin strips of cyano impregnated paper strapping or v. fine thread, possibly wire, bindings again with cyano.
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« Reply #2856 on: October 19, 2020, 05:13:34 AM »

I've already put these links on the 'Went Flying' thread but, for completeness, here are two of the Mooneys in action at Buckminster yesterday...
Mike Smith's Aeronca Defender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tikMFM_dUDg
and my DHC Beaver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7tpzFNk_hU

Also, I just remembered I got this flying shot of the Aeronca too....
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« Reply #2857 on: November 21, 2020, 05:11:35 PM »

Still unhappy that I missed that Buckminster meeting.

Ever hopeful that the indoor meetings will soon return, I stripped the Wittman racer to do more detailing .... not that there is much.
I got impatient to see the finished pilot so have done it in one session .... unusual for me.
More of a caricature of Steve Wittman than replica .... I've tried to give the impression of the checked shirt I have seen in photos.
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« Reply #2858 on: November 21, 2020, 05:44:19 PM »

I still haven't flown mine. I have to make a lighter prop. Hope to see it in the air one day.
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« Reply #2859 on: November 21, 2020, 05:49:37 PM »

I still haven't flown mine. I have to make a lighter prop. Hope to see it in the air one day.
ian

I hope that you get to fly it soon, Ian  Smiley
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« Reply #2860 on: November 21, 2020, 06:32:11 PM »

Coincidentally I had the Keleher Lark out today.  It's been challenging to trim, needing the CG farther forward than I expected.  The thrust adjuster has also been problematic, as I tend to lose the reference point when attempting to make small tweaks.  I managed to get a short but decent-looking flight out of it this morning - video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9o3yVcVwQ4&t=272s

More work remains to be done...

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« Reply #2861 on: November 21, 2020, 06:48:18 PM »

Nice Lark pic and flight, Mike, and nice pilot, Russ. I like the check shirt and specs. You've captured the Wittman essence nicely. Good to see the Mooneys still progressing in various ways.
My Demoiselle is the only one of my completed lockdown builds still not flown. Hopefully it'll get its chance once we get back to indoor flying.
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« Reply #2862 on: November 22, 2020, 02:42:38 AM »

Pete, excepting the current month's lockdown, we've been allowed back in at Newbury since October, with the next meeting just before Christmas.

So we could always assist Miss Scrumptious if you were happy to do a "postal".... !?

I'm clearly far too reckless, Andy Blackburn too conservative, etc - but we've also got Mike Stuart and Peter Smart at your (her) disposal....?!

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« Reply #2863 on: November 22, 2020, 05:31:17 AM »

Thanks Pete.
 I'm looking forward to flying it ... a bit nervous because this should be one of the lightly loaded peanuts capable of 50 seconds plus .... I feel I have to put my money where my mouth is! ROG is another matter .... hard to predict how well some models will do this.
Look forward to seeing the Demoiselle in the air  Smiley
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« Reply #2864 on: November 23, 2020, 05:23:47 AM »

Pete, excepting the current month's lockdown, we've been allowed back in at Newbury since October, with the next meeting just before Christmas.
So we could always assist Miss Scrumptious if you were happy to do a "postal".... !?
Miss Scrumptious says she is almost certainly washing her hair that night, but thanks you for the kind offer. (Also, Newbury is a bit far in a Demoiselle.)

I'm looking forward to flying it ... a bit nervous because this should be one of the lightly loaded peanuts capable of 50 seconds plus .... I feel I have to put my money where my mouth is!)
Russ, I sometimes think you set yourself unnecessary hurdles. We'll love seeing the Wittman racer in action, however long it flies for. In fact we'll still love it even if it doesn't!
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« Reply #2865 on: November 23, 2020, 06:07:52 AM »

Pete,
I think it stems from my bostonian experience ... I have been happy to see my bostonians get by the 50 second mark, especially for a semi scale one. I've managed this with most, but the one that I didn't was my 'Chesty Jeep' vaguely scale racer. The best flight I got with it was a straight line dash across the full length of the Nottinghan University hall in 2004 ... only to destroy itself on equipment on the far wall. It flew great in a straight line but had struggled with a turn. I am a long term fan of racers from people like Chris Strachan and Tim Horne ... but am yet to fly one myself.
You are right though .... I won't get worked up about it .... much!
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« Reply #2866 on: November 23, 2020, 06:28:07 AM »

The Mooney racer has a more purposeful look than my 'Jeep' though, with better vertical tail area.
The black markings were to cover up a paint spill! .... it's from the days when I got a model finished by the following weekend!
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« Reply #2867 on: November 27, 2020, 05:15:37 PM »

I'm glad to see that there's still activity on this thread. Lovely flights from Pete and company. Mike's Keleher Lark was looking quite promising in that last segment. Mike, I saw that Zaic Utility Special in your video, just plain gorgeous. Do you have pictures, or better a build thread somewhere?

I'm still working on my Erla 5A. I just finished the landing gear last night. I also rigged the model up with DT - it may be wishful thinking on my part but better be safe than sorry. I have to install a cockpit floor to hide the rubber and have to make a tailwheel before I start covering. I hope to get there within this long weekend.

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« Reply #2868 on: November 27, 2020, 06:06:15 PM »

Really nice detailing, Ates .... particularly that undercarriage  Smiley
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« Reply #2869 on: November 27, 2020, 06:07:57 PM »

Mike's Keleher Lark was looking quite promising in that last segment. Mike, I saw that Zaic Utility Special in your video, just plain gorgeous. Do you have pictures, or better a build thread somewhere?
--Ates

Thanks Ates - there's a build thread for the Utility Special here:  https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3679113-Zaic-Utility-Special-Build

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« Reply #2870 on: November 27, 2020, 07:52:19 PM »

Thank you gentlemen!
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« Reply #2871 on: November 27, 2020, 11:33:09 PM »

Mike I have a friend interested in the Skyrocket shown on your video. Where did you get the plans for it?

Personally - Zaic's Utility Special is outstanding to my eyes- in appearance and flight!

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« Reply #2872 on: November 28, 2020, 09:29:32 AM »

Mike I have a friend interested in the Skyrocket shown on your video. Where did you get the plans for it?

Personally - Zaic's Utility Special is outstanding to my eyes- in appearance and flight!

John

Thanks John.  The Sky Rocket was a short kit from George Bredehoft at Volare Products - https://volareproducts.com/blog/?page_id=1169.  He doesn't have it listed for sale at present, but kindly cut one at my request and tucked it into a pending order after I lost my Windindicator.

Hmmm.  Maybe I should do a Mooney bostonian for my next Embryo.

Mike
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