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« Reply #650 on: June 11, 2021, 05:30:50 PM »

OK rrfalcon. You have been added to the lists.
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« Reply #651 on: June 13, 2021, 02:22:08 PM »

Both fuselage sides are assembled for the Farman F.400. I still need to trim away the glue residue from the joints, and improve my photography!
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« Reply #652 on: June 13, 2021, 08:23:43 PM »

Great find! If I knew there was a Farman I prob would have built it too. Look forward to your progress
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« Reply #653 on: June 17, 2021, 12:56:33 PM »

Continuing on - the fuselage framing is in progress. I've re-done the nose former three times, and finally got something I could live with. Most of the fuselage bottom sticks are in, although the one at the nose is a bit short. I'll have to slot in a small filler piece, but since it's all glued up to the nose former I don't think there will be any strength issues. I'm not very good yet at getting the cross-pieces both lined up with the verticals on the fuselage side *and* level with the longerons. I'll have to think about that a bit.
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« Reply #654 on: June 26, 2021, 03:44:25 PM »

The fuselage is done, along with the vertical fin/rudder. I've started on the wing, with the wingtips, spar, and trailing edge pinned down and glued.  Next will be to cut out the wing ribs, trim to proper shape, and glue on to the spar and TE. I'm still experimenting with the best way to transfer the shapes from paper to wood. Outlining in a fine-point Sharpie still results in a very coarse line with a lot of bleeding along the grain, so I want something better for the next project.
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« Reply #655 on: June 26, 2021, 04:37:06 PM »

To transfer patterns to wood, I like to copy the pattern on to tissue that has been lightly bonded to a sheet of typing paper. Use a spray such as Scotch Spray Mount light duty. Be very sparing on the use of the spray. Remove the tissue from the paper and bond it to the wood using glue stick or a heavier dose of Spray Mount. Leave the tissue in place as it will help prevent splitting of the wood when cutting the outline and the notches. This is not an original idea, but I forgot where I saw it.
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« Reply #656 on: June 27, 2021, 01:11:18 PM »

Thanks! I'll give that a try.
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« Reply #657 on: June 30, 2021, 12:17:56 PM »

I've been working on trimming the Nardi FN.305. Early on I had quite a bit difficulty getting it to fly in a predictable pattern. I suspected that this was caused by insufficient dihedral. Before taking the razor saw to the wings I decided to steam in some washout to see if that would help, which it did. Here's a video of that second trimming session, it's getting there.

I have a KP Aero nose button installed on the model and I have a feeling that it has also contributed to the difficulties I've been having as it is quite difficult to adjust it just right - it's too sensitive to minor changes. I'll replace it with a Gizmo Geezer unit. I'll also see if I can get it to fly slower by replacing the prop with a larger one.

https://youtu.be/x9KNY_Evcj0
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« Reply #658 on: June 30, 2021, 02:25:34 PM »

Looking good!
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« Reply #659 on: July 03, 2021, 12:45:10 PM »

The basic wing structure is complete.  I still need to trim the leading edge and sand things down, then set the proper dihedral.
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« Reply #660 on: July 03, 2021, 05:43:36 PM »

I have built this Fatman with an outerzone plane and have not yet been able to put it in flight, but in the centering tests it looks like a good flier. Go ahead with your Farman 400. Greetings José
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« Reply #661 on: July 04, 2021, 04:17:35 PM »

Very nice! I can only hope mine looks as good when I'm done.
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« Reply #662 on: July 09, 2021, 11:58:07 AM »

The structure is done, weight of what's shown is 3.05 grams. I haven't yet done the landing gear, and the rubber and prop are obviously not in place. Now it's time to figure out covering.
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« Reply #663 on: July 25, 2021, 07:30:56 AM »

I have finally started the Miles M18 about 3 weeks ago. Photos show the bare bones, and tonight I started the covering starting with the tail surfaces using pre shrunk tissue. I have filled in the nose with 1/32" sheet and used the same fro the top decking. Photos show progress to date. This one took a while to start. Now I have to decide if I go for the all white example and the full fairings on the undercarriage.
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« Reply #664 on: July 25, 2021, 04:16:07 PM »

It's time (maybe past time) for another update. After I mostly finished the structure, I decided to try using printed tissue for the covering. That meant that I needed to go figure out how to clean up the plan PDF so that it showed just the markings I wanted on the tissue. So, after a week or two of searching for info, trying stuff, and learning, I figured it out (mostly). I printed the patterns first on plain bond paper so that I could make sure the size and orientation were correct, then after trimming the tissue to fit the paper it was off for another trip through the printer.  Success! The tissue made it through without tearing or wrinkling, and after I peeled it off the bond paper substrate it was ready for application. It does curl up where the spray adhesive held it to the bond paper, but that doesn't seem to affect how it goes on to the structure.

I started with the fin, and immediately discovered that the ink wasn't going to survive the 50/50 water/isopropyl alcohol mix I was using to shrink the tissue. I'll have to re-do that bit. I'm thinking about trying an alternate method of covering in plain silver and then cutting the letter from blue tissue and using spray adhesive to put it on the fin.

On the fuselage sides, I tried spraying the back side of the tissue (Peck Polymers silver), and that worked better. If I kept the spray down to just dampening the tissue, it didn't cause the printer ink to run. It didn't tighten up as much as I would have liked, but I think it will be enough. For the sprayer, I'm using a perfume atomizer. That gives a very fine mist, and is easy to re-fill. I used the same technique for the wings.

I had printed alignment marks on the tissue at the edge of where the structure should go to help me get everything in the right place. Unfortunately, I put the marks too close, so some of them ended up on the tissue that's staying with the model. I'll know better next time!
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« Reply #665 on: August 03, 2021, 05:51:39 AM »

Fiat G.50

Finally got around to tissue covering. I've gone for a bit of a caricature chamo scheme based on 353.3 using ripped strips of green over a tan tissue base. Not doped yet and awaiting decal sheet delivery for markings. I have never used decal sheet before, so looking forward to learning some new techniques. Canopy will be open, so I have blanked off the opening - just needs a pilot.
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« Reply #666 on: August 03, 2021, 02:27:06 PM »

Finished the wing covering with a little bit of run on the left wing markings, and the wing bowed up a bit on both sides as the tissue dried. I also got the blue tissue on the fuselage. Next for the fuse will be the windshield and landing gear.  I need to build a jig to help with aligning the gear. The fin is re-covered in silver only, and I'll cut out the 'F' marking from blue tissue and glue it on.
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« Reply #667 on: August 18, 2021, 01:09:41 PM »

And construction is finished! Now to figure out how to trim it and what amount of rubber will work best.  Right now, it's very lightly powered - one loop of 1/16 square, so I'll probably bump that up as I get more familiar with the plane. Weight with the Peck Polymer 6" prop and one loop of rubber is about 10.5 grams - 9.5 on the main wheels, and 1 gram on the tailskid.
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« Reply #668 on: August 19, 2021, 12:24:13 PM »

Congrats! Love the colours.
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« Reply #669 on: September 12, 2021, 05:38:25 AM »

G50 has had an outing. It is winging over to the right because I overdid the wash out. I have removed the tissue from the underside of the wing and will recover to re-set the wing. I expect this to fly well when I get it right.
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« Reply #670 on: September 12, 2021, 06:40:31 AM »

The Miles M18 has progressed to being covered and is now being finished in the Strathallen colours and maked in the racing scheme. not happy with the ink I used to make the white a little denser as it streaked when I brushed the dope on.
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« Reply #671 on: September 12, 2021, 11:53:26 PM »

Are you calling the G50 finished Rich? Love to see an in-flight photo if you get it flying.
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DHnut, when we come to the finishing, it is usually 90% completed with 90% of the work still to be done.
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« Reply #672 on: September 14, 2021, 01:14:16 PM »

Nearly finished! I plan to add decal markings. I will try and video a flight.
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« Reply #673 on: September 14, 2021, 07:30:08 PM »

Built the Honey Bee and it turns out to be a nice flyer!
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« Reply #674 on: September 15, 2021, 12:21:21 PM »

Well done Dorme! The second Honey Bee has been added to the list.
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