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« on: November 14, 2020, 10:48:14 PM »

Hi Guys:
I just ordered “The P30 Book” from Free Flight
Quarterly. It’s from 2010, but I figure it’s still
Got a lot of info on Models of the P30 class.  I’m new
To P30, and l’ve acquired a few kits.  I see a lot
References to covering Tissue over Mylar.  Are
There any other books or articles noting recommended
Tools, methods and products?  Since it was published
In 2010, I’m wondering if there has been any advancements
In methods or 21 century product updates since then.
Sincerely,
Jon B. Shereshaw
New Jersey, USA
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2020, 02:03:58 AM »

Not really the process became popular around 1990-there have been no major advances since...if anything the reverse-Esaki tissue has ceased production, dope is harder to find-though various substitutes have appeared on the market 'ezydope' and the like...as for 'how to do' do a  youtube search using 'tissue over mylar' in the search box-that will pull up a number of relevant clips.

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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 12:47:40 AM »

I have just noticed this Jon.

No relation to the famous Shereshaw of the 1930's?

Check out the videos of domoremath - flyguy on this site. He uses mylar all the time on his FF models.

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 04:02:40 AM »

Yes Jon - don’t be daunted by any stories you hear about tissue over Mylar - it actually is quite easy - all you need is a bit of patience to acquire the “knack”.  Howe ever I find that it is not so easy with small fragile structures like lightweight Peanuts that some people build. 
 
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 10:33:42 AM »

Mylar is available in almost arbitrarily thin sizes. I suppose 0.000050" is much thinner than a peanut needs, but last time I checked it was readily available. And you can get it much lighter. That would probably be just right for a quarter scale pistachio.

Seems to me that, for anyone in the US who doesn't have a model shop nearby, dope is almost as easy to get as it used to be. (Except in California? I know they have different rules.) You might have to make one extra mail order. Sig, Brodak, Aircraft Spruce, and presumably Wicks Aircraft. Plus I've heard that some version of Krylon clear is good.

I notice that Easy Built has Gampi that's supposed to be 12 gsm, which is about the same as Esaki.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 05:25:53 PM »

I used to use Gampi in bookbindiing - yes nice tissue - not the equivalent of Esaki and pretty expensive in the UK.  Only one or two specialist shops seem to sellit here but presumably it can be bought on line.  Dope and mylar is easily available in the UK too. Aeromodeller March 2018 had a good article on the subject.


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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 05:46:09 PM »

Seems to me that, for anyone in the US who doesn't have a model shop nearby, dope is almost as easy to get as it used to be. (Except in California? I know they have different rules.) You might have to make one extra mail order. Sig, Brodak, Aircraft Spruce, and presumably Wicks Aircraft. Plus I've heard that some version of Krylon clear is good.

I mail ordered dope in California, both from Brodak and Sig without problems - that is if you don't count the can in the Sig order getting dented around the lid and oozing over the contents of the box. Miraculously a largish order of medium flite tissue sustained zero damage.  Sig order was about 2 years ago, Brodak was probably a couple years before that.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2021, 02:19:55 PM »

Let's imagine for a moment that someone has just mylared a fuselage and has done a rotten job with some areas of wrinkles. Is it best to cut them out and patch, as with tissue, or simply stick a patch on top? This person will be putting tissue on top. If anyone has done this successfully, I'll pass it on.
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2021, 06:34:52 AM »

I have just noticed this Jon.

No relation to the famous Shereshaw of the 1930's?



John

I believe Jon is the son of the legendary Ben Shereshaw.

Gary
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2021, 07:40:42 AM »

Bill, I would cut it out and patch as if it was tissue.
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