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« on: February 03, 2008, 01:12:39 PM »

This was meant to be a Bostonian, but I couldn't get it to fit the rules and look the way I wanted it. So it's not a Bostonian! It's an indoor fun flier.

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2008, 04:43:58 PM »

Sharp little design Bill, got a flite report on it yet?

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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2008, 05:27:05 PM »

Bruce,

First flight is due on March 9th at the indoor meeting at Impington. I've got nowhere to fly it until then.
I will post a report when it happens.

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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 04:17:34 PM »

Hi Bill,

This one looks like a champ. What kind of prop? Like the tricycle approach. Will there be a plan?

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2008, 04:35:10 PM »

Nice little bird. I really like the look of it.

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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2008, 05:31:30 PM »

The prop is home made with 1/32" moulded balsa blades on a 1/8" sq balsa hub. PM me your email address if you want the plan.

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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 03:19:57 AM »

Hello,

Nice pusher design. Can I get a copy of the plans? E-mail is Ok if that works for you.

Can't wait to get a flying report.

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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2008, 03:43:41 PM »

Took Bossy Bird for her first flight yesterday and she came through with flying colours.
I deliberately started on low power to see how she wanted to turn, we were in a rather small hall. The first flight seemed to indicate that she was stable but a bit tail heavy. The turning circle was way too large, so a trim tab was added to the inboard rudder, which then kept it away from the walls. Extra nose weight was added which cured the stall, and the rubber size was increased to 3/16", giving nice stable flights but still underpowered. Next time out she will get some 1/4" rubber.
Overall I'm pleased with the way she is perfoming, but there is still a way to go yet.

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2008, 04:09:42 PM »

Very Good news Bill. Let's see, 1/4" rubber equals 2 loops of 1/8" equals could be used for the Postal! Just meandering in the remnants of what's left of my mind. Was it just a fun outing or was there something bigger happening over there?

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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2008, 07:44:37 PM »

Mainly fun for me, but there were a couple of low key comps, one being the Bostonian, which Russ just escaped winning!

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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2008, 06:09:38 AM »

Hi Bill,
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Can I get a copy of the plans?

e-mail : [email protected]
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2008, 09:15:31 AM »

Gultekin, it has been a long time. I'm glad you found your way here. I'll send the plan tonight.

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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2008, 10:58:54 AM »

Thanks Bill,
I watching and working
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2008, 12:35:29 AM »

HI Bill, I was wondering if i could get the plans for that beaut you designed? I have onlty a small hall accross the road from my house and i was hoping to fly somthin in there.. my email is [email protected]

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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2008, 11:49:50 AM »

Bill, That's a wonderful design. Happy it flys well. Have fun.

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2008, 08:40:27 AM »

Interesting design; why didn't it fit within Bostonian rules?
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2008, 01:09:03 PM »

Ale, good to see you here!
It turned out too long to meet the rules.
Here's a picture of it in flight.

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2008, 01:13:06 PM »

Bill, Again, that is sure a cutie. Looks very good in the air. Too bad it didn't qualify. Have fun.

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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 12:20:11 PM »

Hi Bill,

My Bossy Bird is growing on the board. Got the fuselage sides vertical and working on the cross bracing. Making a few changes for fun. I will let the nose be slightly horizontal, more bar-like thus less pointed.

I'm thinking of a split rib wing maybe a little like the Dick Baxter Bib Pussycat to reduce weight.

I love the curved fuselage. This is going to be fun! Thanks for sending the plan. The flying photo is great!

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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2008, 12:08:14 AM »

Hi Bill,

I've finished the fuselage of my Boss Bird, red tissue with a black (radar?) nose. Wheels and LG affixed and I put hooks with rubber to either side of the cowl to keep the nose block in place. Starting on the wing tomorrow.

Ran out of battery for my scale so cannot tell you how much it weighs.

The cockpit acetate was a bit of a challenge but I finally got it right. Photos coming soon.

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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2008, 07:31:54 PM »

Hi BillB et al,

Bossy Bird II from your plan (with a few changes) is done. It came in at 15.5g. The CG is at 65%, so I have to make some changes to get it back toward the nose a bit.

 I used a split balsa airfoil, made a few changes to the nose block (reduce weight), and used a Styrofoam prop (six inch) from a coffee cup.

I still have to decorate the prop to hide the motel artwork, put end plates on the wing tips, and lock the wheels on the wire.

Tissue on the fuselage is shrunk and doped, but not the stab or wings. Used stiff 1/32 inch balsa on the booms.

Cute model; I really like your design! Thanks again for sending the plan.

I have drawn up a different wing (deltaish) with no stab but fins on the wing tips. Hope to work on it soon so I can experiment with a canard adjustment arrangement I am working on. I think the Bossy Bird fuselage is good for experiments.

I'll give a flight report as soon as I get into a gym.

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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2008, 08:02:08 PM »

OOB, You said it. It is a real cutie. Quite unique.

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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008, 02:44:46 PM »

OOBie you've made a nice job of it, I'm chuffed for you.
Just one thing to note when you launch it. Hold it just behind the front u/c leg. If you hold it any further back it will catch your hand and dive in. If you look carefully you can see the repair patches on mine!
My nose block finally ended up as a sheet structure, much like yours, rather than block.
Best of luck with the flying.

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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 08:27:53 PM »

Hi Bill, Crash, et al,

Thanks for the information and kind words. This model is going to be great flying fun, I think. Looking for an indoor site now. We are on the verge of winter here in Loveland, CO, so not too many prospects of outdoor flying until spring. I have Bossy Bird fitted with a short motor; hope to finish the prop tonight.

I have figured a way to use the Bossy Bird fuselage but as a canard pusher. This will be a step up from Emma's StarShip because I think I can rotate the canard through pitch AND roll with a simple contraption, which is why I went to sheet for the nose of BB.

Lemuel sent me a few canard plans via email; I blew up the Varieze model to 22 inches ws. Looks complicated and BIG!

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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 06:01:21 PM »

Hi Volksmodelers,

I finished my Boss Bird Cunard (BBC---ha) a few days back. Some pictures below.

I used BillB's fuselage, only straightening the curves bit. I put on a swept wing with the rudder-fins on the wing tips, and. of course, the canard at the nose. I am attaching a music wire that goes beneath the fuselage to keep the left and right sides in sync, and, also to help with trimming. I can move the wing, if necessary. The wind screen is one bay smaller than Bossy Bird.

The weight came out at 14.8g all up. The CG is just ahead of the main gear exit from the fuselage. The tail block is a bit heavy so if I need the CG to go forward, I can do that without adding weight.

I hope I can teach it to fly, as BillB says. BillB, see what you did? Good on you!

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